Re: Next assessment

V: I didn't even know who Randy Clark was until you mentioned him being a true healer and someone you went to see. But I'm really glad you did mention him, because now I know he's a gigantic leader in this huge agenda to lead people away from the true gospel. And since you mentioned him, I am seeing that he is all over the place forming conferences, etc. He's a busy man! I'm sure not obsessed with him at all but I will be aware of him now and list him in the names of people to avoid.


E: Not every "prophetic word" will actually be a word from God, (and i expect most will not) so beware and use discernment!

V: Did you know that in the bible times, someone was considered a false prophet if they made just one false prophecy? And I believe they were stoned too. The stoning part of course changed. No one stones a false prophet anymore as far as I know. But someone is still a false prophet if they give just one false prophecy. Yet you act like it's no big deal that all these people in these groups are constantly giving false prophecies. You say just don't believe them about the prophecies and that's it, no other warnings. Stacy Campbell herself has given many false prophecies. If someone says "the Lord said", it is no small matter at all if you are lying and he didn't really say whatever you are saying. That's why at one point there was a penalty of stoning for that.

Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Are you warning people about all those that are endorsing Stacy Campbell, the ravenous wolf? And of course, she is not the only one making false prophecies. You see it over and over in these groups.

E:What exactly do you mean when you say "unite"?

V: Randy Clark, and all of the rest of the NAR and Word of Faith want to merge with the Catholic Church, meaning no more division, become one as the body of Christ. Just as Tony Palmer said, "If there is no more protest, then we are all catholics." And no one in these groups has protested that statement as far as I know. In fact I think they cheered it on. So they want us to all set our differences aside and find the commonality that will bring us altogether as one.

E: Great theory. Now all you have to do is provide the evidence.

V: I've already provided the evidence of how Randy Clark celebrates demonism. He can't wait for any time Stacy Campbell gets up and does her ferocious head shaking while making her false prophecies. It's obviously not of the Holy Spirit but all the NAR leaders love her and can't wait for her to do her thing including Randy Clark. I've also showed where the Toronto Blessing that Randy Clark lead was filled with demonism and how he can't wait for another toronto blessing revival. He never stood up and talked about all the demonism in the revival. He's only endorsed the revival.


V: I don't ever say someone has to be 100% correct on everything. There are going to be errors no matter where you go. But this stuff is not just errors. I put up a Justin Peters series a while back on the Word of Faith (I'm pretty sure you probably didn't watch it) but in this series Justin Peters did a great job of very precisely showing that the Word of Faith groups believe a false gospel and a different jesus. He did all this by taking what they teach and comparing it to the bible. The NAR came out of the Word of Faith and then added even more heresy in. So they believe a different gospel and a different jesus too and that's why they don't care at all to join with the false gospel of the Catholics.
Two false gospels don't make a right, but they don't care about being right. They want power! And there is certainly power in numbers, at least until God shuts the whole thing down.

You just don't see what I see Ed. And I don't see what you see. We are seeing all this very differently and so we are going to misunderstand one another, and probably end up twisting each other's words, etc. I have gotten irritated about that too with Refreshed at times, but when I take time to think about it, I can't be upset about that when I understand we are just seeing things differently and can't understand one another at times because of that.

But having said that, I am sorry if I twist your words sometimes, or cause you to have to repeat yourself. I will try to be more careful of that in the future.

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