"that part you have right. we do not see the same jesus."
Right! And what I would like everyone to see here is that we are not on the same team. You (Trapper) do not want to be identified with christians and it is an insult to you when people do try to identify you with christians. And I in no way want to be identified as believing in whatever jesus Trapper does because I believe in a different Jesus.
This is not hate speech people! These are just the facts. I don't hate Trapper. I just don't believe the way he does. This is a debate forum. Disagreements are going to happen in a debate forum. That doesn't mean everyone hates one another.
But there is not going to be unity. And that's okay!
"Unity which is obtained by the sacrifice of truth is worth nothing."
---J.C Ryle