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MoreThis is a reply to # 987,350>- 810 times the recommended daily dose of calcium.
I think that it is not the actual amount of calcium that is important here but the alkalinity. Pickling lime is very alkaline. It is this small amount of additional alkalinity added to the water that makes a difference.
It is not just the absorbtion of a mineral such as calcium or magnesium the counts. While the minerals themselves are important, if the mineral is taken in an alkaline form, it will remove acidity from the body.
When calcium is taken in the form of pickling lime, almost 100 percent of it reacts with hydrochloric acid in the stomach, becoming calcium chloride which is highly absorbable. When calcium is taken as calcium carbonate, this reaction with stomach acid is only partial at best, and because it is already a neutralized form, it does not remove acidity.
I do agree that getting your minerals from natural foods is best, pickling lime does help.
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This is a reply to # 987,614so your saying then that it's alright to ingest calcium hydroxide (pickling lime) to get ones supply of calcium? tomi.
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This is a reply to # 987,662>- saying then that it's alright to ingest calcium hydroxide (pickling lime) to get ones supply of calcium?
In it's properly diluted form, it is only mildly alkaline and can supply additional calcium. I would not use it as my main source of calcium or other minerals.
However, I do not use just straight lime. I balance my solution with magnesium, potassium, and sodium.
It should be noted that the worlds lowest rates of cancer occurence are in areas where the water has higher calcium and magnesium content.
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You are right. The right balance of Calcium, Magnesium, Sodium and Potassium is important for preventing heart disease and cancer.
And we do get a lot of minerals from water. So drinking de-mineralized/soft water is "unhealthy" . Thats one reason, I decided NOT to buy a water distiller.
But what should be the ideal Sodium:Potassium and Calcium:Magnesium ratio. I have read that Na:K ratio should be something like 9:1 and Ca:Mg should be like 1:1. Does that look right to you.?
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>- what should be the ideal Sodium:Potassium and Calcium:Magnesium ratio
I use the following in 1 gallon of springwater to make a concentrate:
1 tbsp pickling lime (calcium hydroxide)
1/2 tbsp Epsom Salt (magnesium sulfate)
1/4 tsp no-salt (potassium chloride)
1/4 tst baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) I originally used Sea Salt for the sodium.
then, I take 1 tbsp of the concentrate and dilute to 1 gallon of water.
I drink 2-4 glasses of this every day depending on my needs.
My pH was very acid (approx. 5.8) a year and a half ago and the alkalyzing diet was not working fast enough.
My pH is now within normal range. It is important to use care not to over-alkalyze.
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This is a reply to # 987,835Sounds like a great protocol to me...
You will find those same ingredients in so called "electrolyte" waters on the market. - Re: Is Pickling Lime Really A Good S... #27054
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This is a reply to # 987,835parazapper, i have asked this question before but never have received a clear answer on this one. i am surprised because without a clear correct answer how can one balance ones ph.?
what is the correct way to read your body's ph.?
if one tests for eg. urine with their ph. stix, would that be accurate knowing that one is measuring waste products that the body rejects which includes toxins?tomi.- Re: Is Pickling Lime Really A Good S... San2006
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What I understand is that the PH of the blood is between 7.35-7.45. And the body must maintain the PH of our blood within this narrow range, else we die.
So our little Kidneys act as "shock absorbers" and try their best to maintain the PH of our blood, by altering the PH of the urine.
I have a digital PH meter, and days I feel healthy, my PH was 6.8. One day ,I had a bad allergy attack, all stuffed up. I was curious to check my PH and with was 6.0.
I check my PH first thing in morning, but dont do it on a regular basis ( just lazy). The kidneys are definately eliminating water soluble toxins and I just cant understand the science behing Urine therapy. UGHHHH... But thats another story...
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This is a reply to # 987,942well it's seems that that's closest one can get, so in retrospect the kidney's balance the ph. under those circumstances the diet is the key, but that again depends greatly how healthy ones kidneys are.
i follow the 'water cure' for that reason (flushing), again if the kidneys are not functioning correctly or perhaps one is not sure, how does one find out? tomi.- Re: Is Pickling Lime Really A Good S... San2006
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This is a reply to # 987,970If Kidneys are not functioning properly, you will get Kidney pains ( lower back pains).
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This is a reply to # 988,034>- If Kidneys are not functioning properly, you will get Kidney pains
Will or can?
I am not sure, but this is one reason that I try to balance the salts. Potassium is important in removing the other minerals from the body.
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This is a reply to # 987,923>- what is the correct way to read your body's ph.?
There are many arguments about this and while I am not the authority, I have my own method.
I take my pH samples about 8:00 AM - 9:00 AM, before eating or drinking, checking both urine and saliva. As a note, I usually urinate at least once during sleeping hours at night, usually around 4:00 AM.
My morning sample is usually 8-10 hours after my last food and 4-8 hours after my last drink.
I take my urine samples midstream, when I am half empty.
As far as I am concerned, it is important to check the blood pH but this is difficult to do accurately.
The important thing to note about the saliva and urine pH is that they are a reflection of the body's efforts to control the internal pH. If the saliva and urine are acidic at the AM sampling, then the body is having to remove a lot of excess acidity.
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This is a reply to # 987,960thanks for your answer. just one more thing please, what readings are within the parameters with bodily fluids to show an acceptable level? thankyou, tomi.
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This is a reply to # 987,978>- what readings are within the parameters with bodily fluids to show an acceptable level?
Again, I am not an expert in this area, but I would expect normal readings above 6.8 but below 7.2 pH. I would not panic over day to day variations but would keep an eye on any obvious trends.
The saliva shoulb be closer to 7.0 as far as I can tell.
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This is a reply to # 987,800yes parazapper, i mean't in it's diluted form. do you feel that although you use magnesium, potassium and sodium (which i use) that it's necessary to use calcium hydroxide (in diluted form) when there are much safer ways to include calcium in respect of the undesired side effects that one gets from calcium hydroxide, tomi.
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This is a reply to # 987,834>- do you feel that although you use magnesium, potassium and sodium (which i use) that it's necessary to use calcium hydroxide (in diluted form) when there are much safer ways to include calcium
Yes, in my case, it was. See:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=987835#i
When using organic vegetables combined with suppliments, over a period of 3 months, my pH went from avg 5.8 to avg 6.1. When I started drinking the mineral water, my avg pH went to 6.8 within 4 weeks and now stays around 6.9 to 7.0, controlled by how much I take.
Please note that I also suppliment 400 IU of Vitamin-D 1-2 times daily in the summer and 3 times daily in the winter.
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This is a reply to # 987,834You will not get undesired side effects if you do not do too much, too fast and balance it all with other needed minerals.
As I stated earlier in another forum, supplementing is a tricky, individual thing... Parazapper's method sounds well diluted and extremely safe. While the method may not be a significant source of his daily minerals, it most certainly has the desired effect of buffering acid and is all quite bioavailable to the body. That he uses it based on need is something everyone should take heed of. Need varies, sometimes greatly from one individual to the next.
One of the BIG reasons we are suffering in todays world is mineral void bottled and distilled waters; good, clean, fresh, water out of a running stream is valuable not so much for the "mineral" content, but for the buffering action the water had on the body's acids... that said, water treated with fluoride, chlorine and aluminum is not desired either; I think we all agree on that... oh, for a pristine source of fresh running water... yummy.
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This is a reply to # 987,850the only 'safe' way to ingest 'pickling lime' safely is in 'holistic' form, one million parts to one grz.
if one has to be careful in respect of taking it too fast ,too much and needs other minerals to balance it, i know the route i'd take my friend, tomi.
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The alkalinity question does not really apply since the stomach acid and alkaline liquid will neutralize each other and release gas. The best way to assure the whole body has the correct pH is to eat foods which leave an alkaline ash after being digested. This is another reason why using baking soda is highly suspect, it neutralizes stomach acid and may actually cause more harm than good when over used. We need to get past just neutralizing the stomach acids with alkaline substances and look at the whole body. If one were to take enough hydrated lime to get the needed amount of calcium, then there would be considerable risk of damage to the digestive system from that degree of alkalinity. Alkaline burns are extremely dangerous, and hydroxides are very alkaline. I still believe extreme caution must be used with pickling lime, and that there are better and safer options.- Re: Is Pickling Lime Really A Good S... grzbear
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This is a reply to # 987,688Check out medical studies on calcium hydroxide including recent patents in mineral supplements and OTC and prescription meds... also check out the use of calcium hydroxide in promoting new bone formation.
I have posted many of the links to studies on the supplement 3A Calcium by Lane Labs and Advacal before, and may have posted many thousands of links to the use of calcium hydroxide in dentistry. It is used not only for the anti-bacterial and anti-viral effects, but also for its ability to ameliorate the toxic affects of Antibiotics and metals.
Calcium hydroxide has been used for centuries as a germ-fighting agent in commercial and domestic environments and in hospitals (especially before Antibiotics ). It is a powerhouse at destroying harmful bacteria. Perhaps one reason why I have not been sick in over 2.5 years while many of those around me are constantly battling one illness or another...- grzbear... San2006
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I am still cautious abt consuming Pickling Lime internally on a daily basis. I could be wrong, but I will continue to do my research on this, till I am sure.
One Question, Could Pickiling Lime be used to brush your teeth, as our teeth need calcium. Also because its anti-bacterial.
Right now I am brushing with Baking Soda and 3% h2o2. But I was thinking of some variation to my teeth cleansing. Although, my teeth are feeling great with h2o2 and BS combo.
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This is a reply to # 987,765Caution, do not use undiluted pickling lime as it is very caustic and can cause skin burns.
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This is a reply to # 987,765I oil pull, rinse with diluted sole made with Himalayan salt and then brush with a mix of equal parts; terramin clay, baking soda, and redomnd's salt.
About once a week or so I will lightly and quickly brush with magnesium malate and baking soda for the whitening effect... getting a tooth brush wet with ACV and then dipping into BS will do the same thing; volcano brushing :-). HUGE NOTE: this should NEVER be done every day (I hesitate to do more than once bi-weekly) and this should NEVER be done when one has problems with weak and/or thin tooth enamel for obvious reasons.
I have not used the lime water for brushing... perhaps I will try it to wet the toothbrush for a time and see what happens.
NEVER use the Calcium hydroxide without first properly diluting it in filtered or distilled water. One tablespoon of Pickling Lime (Calcium Hydroxide) to a gallon of water.- Re: grzbear... San2006
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This is a reply to # 987,831Isnt salt abrasive for teeth? I am ready to so salt water mouth washes , but sea-salt can be abrasive to tooth enamel. Thats why I dropped it from my tooth powder. I jjust use, Baking soda + 3% h2o2. So far, I have no troubles. But some variation would be nice for a change.
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That is what they say... I have been doing this for well over 2 years and the dentist says my teeth never looked better so I will continue to use it. Most of the salt dissolves into the solution of saliva and water in the mouth anyway.
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This is a reply to # 987,688
I agree with you on this. Acid -Alkaline 'balance' is very important.
Although, I have never tried Pickiling Lime, because I am wary of its Calcium content, I did try Baking Soda.
I was drinking BS + ACV in water, and sometimes BS alone. Later, I found out that I came down with a case of Bacterial Vaginosis. And BV is caused by "folic Acid" deficiency.
I started connecting the dots, and found out that Baking Soda, and for that matter "any anta-acid" which has the potential of neutralising the stoamch acid, has the potential of causing depletion of B-vitamins. people who take plenty of anta-acids, are doing a lot of harm actually, because they are depleting themselves of B-vitamins.
I immediately stopped BS and started a high potency b-complex and additional Folic acid, and the symptoms are under control.
So, in the end, stay away from stomach acid neutralisers. Eat healthy, drink water with some sea-salt in it, and oxygenate your body. Oxygenation will increase the alkalinity of the body...
cheers
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This is a reply to # 987,688>- The alkalinity question does not really apply since the stomach acid and alkaline liquid will neutralize each other and release gas
I have to strongly disagree with this. While that alkalinity of the solution is not absorbed, acidity is being removed from the body and neutralized. The by-products are calcium chloride and water, not gas.
The important thing is that acidity is removed from the body.
I also want to relate that using the mineral water solution that I use does work much faster than the natural way. It is also more effective than store bought calcium suppliments in raising the pH.
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