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Re: 7-year-old daughter trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 774,719we agree on not fasting children. but there is obviously a need for cleansing and oranges are right under lemons for that. i have seen this diet work. also, due to the age of this girl, i would not go over ten days at a time. i would, however, do it as many times as it took to regain normalcy. the diet has provided this problem and the diet is the only thing that can correct it. and of course dairy and soy must be avoided, as well as mixing proteins and carbs. good plant oils in the diet would complete the mix.- Re: 7-year-old daughter dreaming ofhawaii
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This is a reply to # 774,011I have been following this thread since June. First, I would like to give you a history of my daughter. June 1st my ten year old daughter's menses started. I researched everything that I could and read Owen's article on early menses. I tried discussing my findings with my daughter educating her on her dietery choices.
We purchased a distiller and a shower filter. I already ate mostly raw and I encouraged my daughter to try more raw smoothies, fruits, crackers, seeds and nuts. We never did eat red meat, she occasionaly eats chicken or fish. Soy was a biggee getting her to give up. She is allergic to peanuts, they cause her to break out in cold sores. We previously discovered soynut butter and she loves it. I have been trying to steer her towards other nut butters. I stopped buying milk and only buy raw, organic cheese and organic yogurt, occasionally. Her diet isn't perfect now, but it is much improved. I always pack her lunch for school. No school lunches.
She never had a period July, Aug, Sept, Oct. In November it return very lightly. I attribute that to a vacation in Thailand where they had complimentary buffets and I let her choose her own food and to Halloween. I do have the HerBalance Cream that has wild yam in it. I use organic detergent, shampoo, lotion, tooth paste, deodorant, etc. now. (I hadn't prior).
I have done many cleanses in the past myself and I was interested in the cleanses you got your daughter to do. My daughter is not fond of oranges. She won't eat them, but occasionally will have a juiced one. If you have found another cleanse or any other solutions, I would be greatly interested. Aloha, Kathy- Re: 7-year-old daughter trapper/kcmo
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juicing would be fine. it sounds like you are both more experienced with this and your daughter a little older. congratulations on your efforts and their success. i get the impression you both are good to go to try juicing fresh oranges and go a day or two or how ever long you feel is appropriate.
i fully believe the theory of MH that the bleeding is simply a means for the body to cleanse. the more toxic a person is, the heavier the bleeding will be. he says that normal is spotting only and i agree with him wholeheartedly. just look at the bible and the woman with the issue of blood coming to jesus. issuing blood IS a problem, not the norm. our world is so full of toxins i dont know how this could be totally avoided, but it certainly can be mitigated, as you have seen.
i would be extremely interested in the results you get from doing orange juice fasting. there are other nut butters and they are ok to use to extend the fast. i like almond but its expensive. you can choose any nut at some stores and make butter right there. brazil nuts are really good and of course, macadamia!
you DO eat at least one pineapple a week, dont you?
let my people go - Re: 7-year-old daughter rainbird
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MoreThis is a reply to # 775,012Hi Kathy,
I would have classified my daughters diet as pretty good. But evidently that is not enough. We have chicken and fish about once a week. Its all fruits and veggies(as organic as we can get).Stopped soy about 2 years ago when I became aware of its sideeffects. I used to pack her lunch everyday, but that has been slipping... What kind of containers do you use to pack your daughters lunch? I find that I cant avoid plastics since I am worried about glass breakages.she uses aubreys shampoo and the creams etc that she uses are all organic.
I am collecting as much information as I can on this subject.
I should definetly be looking into a better source of water. we used to buy distilled water and stopped that because of the plastic leaching concerns.Need to do more research into the diff types of filters available...
Has your daughter done any cleanses?
I will definetly keep you updated on what I discover/try...
Thanks
rainbird- Re: 7-year-old daughter jeyar
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This is a reply to # 775,102Hi,
I'll tell you what we did for cleansing. I'll also be up front - I was so impressed with this line of cleansers and supplements that I became a distributor. That being said, I'm not a high-powered salesperson and I sell the products as a sideline, not a "job", so I'm not just here trying to make $$$.
We used, and actually all my family used, WOW colon cleanser. It is herbal and you take it for a month or two until the cleansing is complete. It works by softening the old, hard debris caked in the colon (called chyme) and that comes out in the bowel movements. I remember when I did my first Colon Cleanse that about the third week my normal bowel movement would have these twists of black in it. That was the chyme coming out.
With my daughter, she had tried Adderall (for ADHD, which it ends up she didn't have) for two weeks in January, and had severe side effects, one of which was insomnia. A lifelong terrific sleeper, now she woke up every morning at 3 a.m. and couldn't sleep after that. We were told the half-life of the drug would dissipate within 2 weeks and then she would be back to normal. NOT TRUE. She continued on this pattern until after school, in late May, when I did the WOW with her. The fifth day of the WOW, she slept through the night, and has ever since. Apparently her liver cannot process the prescription drugs, and the milk thistle in the WOW helped break that down. That was when I was sold, and knew that the WOW actually worked.
Colon cleansing is basically worthless if you're going to continue on in a bad nutritional lifestyle, but as a jump start to a new way of living, it can't be beat. It does get rid of a lot of toxins, and sets up the colon to work more efficiently.
I'm sure there are other good cleansers out there, but please AVOID SENNA, which is in many natural products and creates dependency. Also, psyllium husk does scrape the colon, and has a laxative effect, but many mistake it for a colon cleanse. Psyllium, on its own, does NOT cleanse the old caked on stuff in the colon.
Also, about the plastics - I really try not to store things long-term in plastic, but I do use water bottles and baggies and such. It's pretty hard to stay away from them. There are many grades and types of plastics, some much more prone to leaching and outgassing than others. I'd research before you go crazy trying to avoid all plastics.
Jeyar
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- Re: 7-year-old daughter dreaming ofhawaii
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This is a reply to # 775,298Thanks for such fast responses. Great information from everyone. I am so appreciative. Trapper, I also agree with MH's theory about the body expelling blood as a means of cleansing. Your Orange juice cleanse is something I myself plan on doing in the near future, but I couldn't get that much orange juice into my daughter. We love fresh pineapple and usually eat two per week. I probably could get her to do a fruit cleanse eating different fruits for a couple of days. Would that help as much?
It seems like the detox foot pads have also helped her. I just got them a couple of weeks ago. She has been using them and the color in the morning is much lighter. I tried them and can't stand them on my feet at night. I ripped them off after about an hour.
We are living on a military base in Japan right now and trying new things is a challenge. Tropical Traditions does ship for free to the military and they are a God-send. When I do get raw nuts, it is on trips back to the states.
I got my distiller on eBay. It was from Sears, cost about $65 including shipping. Almost brand new. I think that was the single most important decision that I made. The chemicals in the water are so strong here you can smell them, like clorox. I even send her to school with her own water.
I use waxed paper when possible. If I use plastic, it is good quality, not cheap. I feel that it doesn't leach as much, but I am not sure. It is hard dealing with all of the chemicals, that is for sure. I never use plastics to heat things up in and I stopped long ago using a microwave.
My daughter hasn't really done any cleanses. I am not sure that I would want her to. She is tall and very thin. Her bowels work after almost every meal like they are suppose to, so I don't know if I want to mess around in that area. I may be misguided, but I don't want her to remove the good "bacteria or flora", then have an elimination problem.
I would love more information on the WOW for myself. Is there a web site. I have done 10 liver flushes, 4 MCs, okrapepsin, Dr. Schultz IF#1&2, and Oxypowder . I hate when I don't eliminate everyday and get bloated. All of the products above did that to some extent (Not the Master-Cleanse or LF) except IF#1 alone. So I am willing to try something that won't cause those symptoms. Even though I have eaten well for quite awhile, it could always be better (100% raw or all fruit) and my teens and 20s were awful. So I probably have alot of old, stubborn MP. Thanks again for all of the great info. Aloha, Kathy
- Re: 7-year-old daughter rainbird
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MoreThis is a reply to # 775,551Hi everyone,
Its heartening to get responses!!!
Its such a struggle to get these changes in place...
I am taking things one at a time. First thing is I have stopped school lunches. However, school candy seems to be still going on... Have minimised eating from out and am cooking all meals from scratch. I was doing some reseach on plastics and will need to buy some good quality stuff. Water purification is the next step along with the shower filter.I dont use the microwave much anyways. Am trying to include more salads along with her meals. Couldnt sell the monodiet idea to my girl...
Jeyar,how many cleanses did your daughter do? I might have to look into these too.
Kathy, never heard of foot detox pads... Might have to read on this!
Thanks
rainbird
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fruit is always a good idea. citrus and pineapples are very cleansing. i eat one pineapple per week myself.
as far as BMs are concerned, you should really get some of mhs lower bowel balance. he does not ship overseas, but doesnt the military have an APO or FPO or something like that out of seattle or LA that can forward the package to you while still having a conus address? i know it was that way for me in alaska.
cutting down on the bad food and getting your minerals from herbs is also a good idea. MRs barefoots is the other thing i would order from mh as this is the essential herbs needed, especially for pre and post natal. he also has a pica formula for kids. too bad you couldnt call brenda at 937-666-6107. she could answer your questions and take your order direct.
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This is a reply to # 775,298http://www.roex.com/wow.htm
Is this the Colon Cleanse that you are talking about. It looks interesting. Did you take more products along with the capsules? Aloha, Kathy
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This is a reply to # 775,012Hi dreamingofhawaii and jeyar,
Havent heard from you in a long time. I always check this forum to see if anyone has updated. How are things with you?
rainbird
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It is usually ok and "normal", I found that a low Sugar diet also somewhat helps (when sugary foods are eaten here comes the crankiness and odor, at times where we watch the GI/sugar load, her sweat often doesn't even smell after sports), my feeling/guess is that sugar/insulin plays a role regarding the androgens levels but maybe not (sugar makes kids hype and cranky anyways lol), exercising does my kid good too. Soy made absolutely no difference (and I read it could actually slow down puberty so well, but maybe it could unbalance things in some people ?) but Sugar and fats did.
So my advice would be relax, go low GI and low glycemic load, avoid bad fats, get her plenty of veggies and healthy foods.
I know how we freak out, but it should be ok.
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since I'm not sure you'll get to the patient website, here is an extract "Adrenarche (ad-ren-ar-ke) is known to be an ordinary bodily process that happens to boys and girls as they begin to make the transition to being a teenager. It is a development that happens before puberty, usually between the ages of 6 and 8. During this time certain hormones (biological messengers) begin to increase and may either go unnoticed or can cause changes in the body like new hair growth.
""Androgens from the adrenal gland may cause a variety of things to begin to happen to the body including:
An effect on hair-producing cells causing some children to experience their first pubic hair and/or armpit hair growth.
An effect on the glands that produce sweat as well as the glands that produce an adult body odour, meaning some children may notice their body beginning to smell differently.
Additionally, some children may notice a change in their skin as these hormonal changes can result in a kind of Acne called micro-comedonal acne.
They can also have an effect on mood and cause mood swings and tearfulness.
Do children experience all of these changes?
Everybody is different and some children may notice several changes during adrenarche, others may not notice anything different and some may experience only one or two differences.
It is important to know that it is as natural to experience all of these changes as it is for a child to experience none. Occasionally the term 'premature adrenarche' is used when these changes are experienced a bit early (around 5-6 years) but despite this it is not actually thought to be out of the ordinary."
written by Miriam Leach and used on the co uk patient website
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