Donna,

I understand how you feel. I have a similar situation, my gums do not bleed, but they seem to be receding anyway. I would also like to know why.

I recently had my teeth scaled and planed too. I don't have a miracle answer, but I can tell you what I have been doing. I have been using an Oral B Sonic Complete (like the sonicare) and it has made my teeth feel amazingly clean. I haven't had any pain in my gums since I have used it either. I am not sure I totally have the technique down yet, but still it is like the plaque is all gone. I have only been using it on the "soft" setting too, to get used to it, and it is still amazing. I bought mine on EBay for cheaper that the store or Amazon.

I have been making sure to floss at least once per day and have brushed my teeth after every meal or when I can not rinse with something. I have been rinsing with salt water a lot and it really seems to sooth and heal.

At night I am using Biotene mouthwash, I am not sure if it is totally natural, but it doesn't have alcohol. It also has natural enzymes that will benefit your gums. I usually use it before bed because it fights dry mouth and I know lack of salvia is bad for your gums and I am a mouth sleeper.

I think that Colloidal Silver is excellent for ridding the mouth of bacteria and I have ordered some and will be trying it out soon. Then I will probably get a generator. It should really help you to heal. You can brush with it and rinse with it. It is suppose to be awesome stuff.

I have also tried an oral solution of MSM and DMSO it let sit in my mouth for as long as possible. Both substances should be able to penetrate the gum tissue. They are both supposed to be great for inflammation and repairing collagen (which gums are made of); it has worked wonders for my skin. I don't know if I am allowed to link you to the site were I buy it, but if you want to email me if will give it to you. DMSO is strong and has to be diluted and that is why I would rather tell you where to buy it. Don't try to do it yourself without research.

I also have a hydrofloss (although I don't use it enough) and I will fill it with ozanated water and irrigate my gums with it. Irrigating is very important to keep infection away and is recommended by Dr. Nara.

I have used these things and my gums are looking way better. Take extra vitamin c and calcuim.

I have not used the product that you are talking about but I am using Clenzology tooth and gum solution and I think they are similar. It should keep your mouth really clean to help heal your gums.

I hope this helps you some. You may already be doing some of the things that I mentioned. Hopefully someone that has been close to surgery (I have not) can maybe help you more. Did the dentist say it was so drastic that you needed to do it immediately? If not you might want to take some time to really try to heal your gums before you go through with it. You may want to get another dentist's opinion, as well. My gums are healing well since my scaling and planing (that is when I started doing all of this).

Also, keep a positive attitude and visualize that you are healing your gums and you body.

Blessings

Donna,

I just went back and reread your post and I also wanted to add that with the deeper pockets you should probably irrigate them with a special tip, I can't think of what it is called right now, but it is made for deeper pockets and can allow the water/solution to get into the deep pockets. Maybe get a hydrofloss, Vitajet, or Waterpik if you don't already have one.

I am now just starting to looking zappers and parasite cleanising, that might help too, but I am not knowlegable enough yet. You can check out some of the other forums though.

I hope some of this helps you. If you find something that helps you, please share it with me and keep me informed. I am also looking for suggestions.

Gum disease absolutely is depressing, I agree. I had severe gum disease, to the point that when I finally went to a good dentist, I had to have my back teeth pulled (gingivitus/gum disease had gotten so far into the roots that they had decayed beyond repair), and also my four front bottom teeth. It was awful. The problem was so severe that I'd lost actual bone in my jaws and could not support implants with any certainty. So, I have a bridge across the front bottom, looks fine, and a year and a half ago, after trying so many methods to combat gum bleeding, swelling, etc., I stopped using toothpaste because in my desperation searching for alternatives, I discovered flouride in toothpast actually disconnects gum tissue tethers from the teeth and opens gaps that then fill with food debris, etc., and switched to plain white bar soap using a soft toothbrush, along with water pik and gentle flossing. I still have to keep up on it, but I haven't had serious gum bleeding for over a year. I also do a baking soda scrub gently every few days and pour vitamin a/d from a punctured capsule over my teeth and let it run over my gums and massage it in with my fingertips, and use flossing and a small bottle-brush type of instrument to massage and clean inbetween the teeth. I used to drink coke like crazy and eat lots of bad things. I've stopped for the most part and really taken up vitamins and salads and using cold-pressed virgin olive oil, etc. I worry still, as I don't want to lose any more teeth, but it seems stable for the most part now, but I cannot let it go.

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My dentist recommended a product called Herbal Dentist Tooth & Gum Oil. Cleared up my dental problems fast! Purchased it at his office, buy later found it on eBay & Amazon. Hope this helps! :)

I'm only 29 years old. Periodontal disease runs in my family. I'll admit that the care I've taken of my mouth has been suboptimal. I had pocket depths ranging from 3mm-8mm in some of my back molars, with some mild mobility in my front teeth(Scary!!). I'd brush my teeth extremely delicately, and they still would bleed nearly 100% of the time. I even became scared to floss in fear that I'd push back my already receding gums & make them bleed more.

Through my research to find not only a cheaper cure, but one that didn't include cutting away healthy tissue/tissue that is restorable. I also obviously was looking for options that may also include such incentives as short recovery time and didn't result in tons of pain or even looser/more recessed gums.

I'm soooo happy that I found the RPE treatment offered at Periopeak. I flew from my home in PA to WA to see Judy and the staff at their office. With the flight, cost of script, cost of blood testing, xrays, and procedure... it still came to be less expensive than the other traditional treatments. Not only was it cheaper, but every single thing I was hoping for in a treatment seemed to exist within the RPE procedure.

Others who had posted about having gotten the procedure all had good-great things to say about RPE.

I decided for half the cost of LANAP, this was a great choice for me. Can I please tell you all HOW HAPPY I AM WITH RPE!!! Judy and the staff were incredibly sensitive with me. I was a bit emotional when finding out the true severity of my disease, and they were so gentle and comforting with me.

My full RPE procedure took about 4-5 hours. The worst part for some may be getting the numbing needles, and for others it may be holding your mouth open for this long stretch of time. Honestly, neither were terrible at all, very tolerable, especially considering the potential rewards.

I felt nothing... NOTHING during the procedure. Judy and the team made sure I was fully numbed. Once I got done my 5 hour procedure, I immediately hopped on my flight back to PA. As the numbness wore off, I was shocked that I had practically no pain!!! Even after scraping crud out from under my gums, they looked and felt more secure to the teeth than they have in a very long time. This effect was seen nearly immediately.

I had some very very mild jaw pain from holding my mouth open for hours, and some very very mild acute soreness from the injection site... but really, I'd expected true pain and discomfort. There truly was none.

About 12 hours after my treatment, I arrived back home in PA, and brushed my teeth. As I said, they bled 100% of the time before. The veryyy first time I brushed after the procedure, I had no blood at all!! And I haven't had blood at all since then!!

Another great thing about RPE is that there are no post-op restrictions. You can eat, drink, and smoke(if you do this) as you normally would immediately. There is 0 pain!

Post-op care is basic. For me, I need a scr1pt to help reduce my bone loss. I use a my sonicare with sensodyne toothpaste for sensitive teeth. After that, I water pik. Everyone must get this device! It is $35 at CVS and is friggin incredible. You will be SHOCKED at how much crap is stuck in your teeth even after a very vigorous brushing and swishing. I use this after I brush each night before bed. Lastly, I rinse with alcohol-free mouthwash. I use Closys, as was recommended by Judy. Rinsing after meals is something I've been told to do, with a mix of baking soda, water, and xylitol. A tip for you guys too... I've found great xylitol chocolate candies on amazon. You'd never know it wasn't sugar. Consider switching, as Sugar kills your teeth, and xylitol is actually good for them!

I'm 1 month post-op, and very pleased. My 3 month checkup is in November, and I have no doubt of the obv improvement here. Anyone with Qs, feel free to write me! Def consider PerioPeak! They're lifesavers... really!!!

If your problem is caused by tartar, you should check out a product by Gum Remedy Corp. The product is very effective to cure this kind of gum disease.

William