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I'm very glad to have discovered this site a couple of months ago and have been eagerly learning a lot from all of your posts. I'm pretty sure I need to start doing liver flushes, but find myself feeling very lost today...I'm really hoping to get some advice on my next step.
A little bit of history:
For the past ten years I have been on various forms of psychiatric medication (mood stabilisers, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants and sleeping pills). My initial diagnosis was Bipolar, but this has since been questioned and changed. During this time my standard of life was very poor and involved an unhealthy diet, with minimal exercise (I really didn't take care of myself at all). The last 3 years have seen a slow change and I have now completely started over...moved to a new location, returned to school etc. I have also slowly come off all medication and have been drug free for nearly 7 months. My mental health is a lot better, although I feel the chronic depression/anxiety is still there. However it is the ever-increasing physical symptoms that are driving me to look for answers. A few of which are:
Digestive issues, bloating, sickness, various intolerances
Muscle and joint pain
Headaches
Dizziness
Menstrual irregularities
Racing heart
Sweating and extreme reactions to temperature
Brain fog, memory issues and a general disconnect I attribute to the depression, but from reading these forums I now understand could also be caused by a congested liver.
I have spent the last few months completely cleaning up my diet, cutting out all processed and refined foods. The last six weeks have also been completely free of gluten, dairy and soy. I have been gearing myself up to do my first flush by taking malic acid supplements and making sure my bowel is clean, but then had a really bad weekend which saw me eating the wrong foods again. I have a strong suspicion this is simply a case of self-sabotage as I am feeling very nervous that I may not see the results I'm hoping for.
My question now is should I forge ahead and continue with my flush, or wait another few days until I clear this crap out of my system? I'm in that situation which I'm sure a lot of you will recognise, where I really need to do something, but am feeling very scared.
Apologies for the length of this post, but from reading the site it seems that this is the best way for others to offer help.
I would appreciate any and all advice...thank you in advance.
p.s. I am UK based, in case that is relevant.
- Re: Would appreciate some advice on ... crane23
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This is a reply to # 1,994,133Did you go ahead and do it? It's a long process so I vote that you just get started and don't expect miracles. It's another part of the journey you're already on to improve your health. You will likely need to flush many times. At least that's my experience. I've improved a lot over 15 flushes, and still going.
I'm scared to think about what you ate over the weekend as I've spent much of my life in the UK and it has possibly the unhealthiest food in the world ;-) - Re: Would appreciate some advice on ... fectoid2
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This is a reply to # 1,994,133I agree with Crane. I use the Dr Clark protocol very successfully, so I would just start with the lowfat dinner, light lowfat breakfast the next AM then no eating or drinking after 2:00 PM. the rest of the protocol is here //www.curezone.org/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp
- I did it....thrilled with the result... LilacRose
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This is a reply to # 1,994,650Thanks for the advice both of you, I decided to go for it yesterday. Finished eating at 3, so pushed everything forward an hour, but I have to say it all went very smoothly. I didn't have a problem with either of the concoctions, although I mixed the ES with fresh apple juice to help it go down easier. I didn't get much nausea from the oil, but did have some cramping pains for the first hour; after that I was able to go to sleep quite easily.
I woke about 5.30, shortly after which I had my first trip to the bathroom. This first elimination yielded such a variety, I was surprised as had told myself not to expect much from my first flush. There were a handful of pea sized pale green stones and a lot of darker, smaller ones. But it was the other stuff which I wasn't expecting....loads of 'tomato skin' flukes, a bunch of stringy mucous (I'm guessing) and lots of small white objects which looked like grains of rice (parasites/eggs?).
Each subsequent trip has been similar, although much less after the first one. I think a fair amount of bile/chaff too judging by the smell. I took photos and will see if I can figure out how to upload one from my phone.
I'm trying to make up my mind whether to do the enemas now (water, then coffee) or to wait until tomorrow...what do you think?
All in all I'm very glad I decided to take the plunge. It feels like an excellent first step and I look forward to the next one in a couple weeks!
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This is a reply to # 1,994,800Great results! I take my Epsom Salts with apple juice too-its about the only way to get it down. I suggest waiting 24 to 48 hours to start the enemas, give yourself a little rest.
- Re: I did it....thrilled with the re... LilacRose
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,994,894I decided to go ahead with the enema about 7pm as I felt the beginnings of a headache and wondered if it would help. Very glad I did as it released a LOT more stuff... like a yellowy/beige sludge with bits of the above mixed in. The headache disappeared almost immediately and now I feel pretty good.
Will be interesting to see how the next few days shape up!
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This is a reply to # 1,995,067Thank you!!
Feeling a bit confused today though as I'm all over the place emotionally, very tearful and just can't settle at all. I guess the flush has stirred up a lot of stuff. My stomach is also feeling very delicate and not liking anything I put in it (veg soup, plain omelette).
I'm wondering if it just takes a while for things to settle? I know others have talked about feeling wonderful the week after, but perhaps this doesn't come until later flushes.
I may try another salt enema, just to see if I'm still blocked. If stones are still in the colon I suppose this could be why I'm feeling a bit rough.
I will keep reminding myself that I'm still at the beginning of this journey!
- Re: I did it....thrilled with the re... Liteworker
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,995,098I have seen it stated before, and I would like to echo .... whenever we undertake the task of "cleaning out" our bodies, this also hits the emotional, mental, spiritual bodies as well.
If you are one, as I am, who believes that emotional pain can manifest in physical discomfort, I would certainly look into which emotional ties are representative of the liver.
It helped me.
Good luck!!- 2 days on... LilacRose
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This is a reply to # 1,995,300I think you may be right, although things have settled today (2 days later) I'm definitely still feeling very emotional. Also, apart from a few good hours the day after flush, I feel physically the same (if not worse) than I did before. Very sluggish, with no energy and a mild headache. My stomach is still struggling with any type of food. I now have a few aches around the ribcage as well.
Considering my history, I'm guessing all of this is an indication of how congested my liver actually is. With the first flush I have merely loosened things up a little and probably won't start to notice any results until I have a couple more under my belt. At least I'm really hoping that is the case!
Crane - I've been reading through this forum again and seem to remember a post of yours (in reply to someone, can't remember who) where you said your first made you feel awful. Is that right? If so do you think my guess is correct, did you see improvements after subsequent flushes?
Hope you don't mind me asking :-)
- Re: 2 days on... Liteworker
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This is a reply to # 1,995,392Not to barge in front of Crane (my apologies) ....
I did my first flush on Tuesday myself. Felt out of whack for a couple of days, but today is greatly improved! Though I used coconut oil (I have a hard time swallowing EVOO) and did not produce but a handful of stones, I do feel that I have moved things about. I bought LIGHT OO (Olive-Oil) for the next time. I just read that they each have different "active ingredients" and produce similar but varying results.
Pineapple, mainly because of it's digestive properties anyway, helped my stomach settle. I just happened to have one pre-cut from my local organic store.
One thing I have been doing that has NOT been mentioned very commonly is apply Reiki. I am a Reiki III practitioner and by calming the mind and energy around my liver, I am able to relax while it rejuvenates.
Hope this all helps.
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- Re: 2 days on... crane23
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This is a reply to # 1,995,392Yes, you're right. I felt terrible after my first flush, almost like I had the flu. I think it was all the toxins flooding my system for the first time. I never felt like that again after a flush. I didn't do parasite herbs before my first flush, and I did them between my first and second (after reading Hulda Clark 's recommendation to do so), so that may have been a factor but I really don't know. In general I now prefer Andreas Mortiz's take on the flushing over Hulda Clark , and he doesn't recommend parasite cleansing but seems to believe your body will take care of them over time if you flush and rid yourself of toxins.
Recently, a couple of times when I feel a bit off for some reason, like the emotions you described, I found a coffee enema helped me feel better. Not sure why.
Overall I think you just proved to yourself how much you need to flush and keep patiently at it until you feel better. It's a process and it takes a while!
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- Re: 2 days on... LilacRose
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This is a reply to # 1,995,568Liteworker:
Thanks for the pineapple tip, I'll pick some up tomorrow...although my stomach does seem to have settled somewhat. I'll look into Reiki too. It's nice to know there is someone going through the flush experience at the same time. Are you planning on doing your second one after two weeks?
Crane:
I'd pretty much made up my mind to do a proper parasite cleanse as soon as I saw all of the flukes from the first flush. Had looked into it previously, but realise now it was a half-assed attempt. Also (not to be too gross, but...) I'm still seeing 'objects' but don't think I'm getting rid of them quick enough as I'm only going once a day. I've ordered Parastroy, which should hopefully arrive this week. Not sure if I should hold off on the second flush until after I've finished the course, or whether I can go ahead during? I'll wait and see how I get on. Whichever, I'm now fully prepared to be in this for the long haul and am looking forward to seeing results!
- Re: 2 days on... Liteworker
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This is a reply to # 1,995,899I DO plan on another flush in a week or so. I spoke to a holistic friend yesterday and he said doing 3 (at the very least)-5 days of apple juice ahead of time will "prep" the ducts in the liver to EXPEL and not just shift around the unwanted toxins.
I am also going to mix a bit of a.j. with my ES water to help with the drinking process.
I have incorporated some yoga moves specifically designed to massage the internal organs (gently) and this has provided some "relief" as well. I do know that my eczema (which is what started me looking into the flush to begin with)has ever so slightly diminished, so I am thinking the next flush will give me even greater results. I had done a parasite cleanse (totally clueless that it would be helpful/recommended BEFORE a flush is done) but I will definitely need to do another one in a month or so. parasite cleanses need at least 3 mos between.
I will be subscribing to the understanding of cleanse/flush, rejuvenate, cleanse/flush, rejuvenate .... etc. Learning to be patient and "listen" (and then subsequently dealing with)the after effects of the cleanse/flushes is as informative for me as the cleanse/flush its self.
All the while, meditating and inviting loving, healing energy to uncover the areas that need attention most. It has become important to me to THANK my body for allowing me to disturb it a bit to achieve beneficial results. It likes it when I THANK it! :)
Namaste!!
- Re: 2 days on... hopinso
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This is a reply to # 1,995,924Drinking apple juice and eating fresh apples for about a week before flushing can be helpful. A hot castor oil pack the night of the flush has also proved valuble. To do the castor oil pack soak an absorbant cotton rag in the oil, place this over the gallbladder/live area and cover with plastic wrap. Top with hot water bottle or heating pad and leave in place at least 4 hours. Be careful not to get so hot you burn your skin.
- Re: 2 days on... LilacRose
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This is a reply to # 1,995,952I did capsules of malic acid instead of the apple juice, as my body doesn't handle fructose well (candida). Does the juice have other properties that I'm missing out on though?
- Re: 2 days on... hopinso
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This is a reply to # 1,996,213I took malic acid capsules for a while. I used the apple juice as a beverage so I just drank a little more around flush time. I don't think one is better than the other..
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- Re: 2 days on... fectoid2
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This is a reply to # 1,995,392My experience is that the "peak" feeling of energy is somewhere between 7-10 days after a flush, and reaches a higher level after each consecutive flush.
I would rely on patience.- Re: 2 days on... LilacRose
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This is a reply to # 1,996,375Yes, I'm fully hooked in to the journey now. Gearing up for my second flush in a couple days, but will try not to have any huge expectations.
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