Hello Mighty Sun, your posts here are excellent. Highly supportive and well directed at the issues raised.

Hello considerablespeck and fastingforlife. I admire your fasting intent and your actions so far. Provided you have no contrindications fasting in both cases would appear an excellent way to break patterns and start/reinforce better habits. Be patient and rest: all the best on your journeys.

Hello ALB. Replies to some of your post:

"""125 is very light for 5ft 6. If you have had children you will have that lose skin on stomach you won't lose that too easily and fasting is not going to do think anything about cellulite."""

Very light?? Low normal would be another description.
Provided someone is not malnourished fasting at a low normal does not have contraindications. A better emphaisis may be diet and lifestyle after the fast interrupts the described body patterns. There are a number of threads on this question.

Fasting will remove cellulite. See here:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1637738#i
and many more revealed by a search.


"""You do need to exericse everyone should 3 to 5 x week aerobic type is good and 3x week to maybe 4 x weights."""

Exercise is optional during a fast. There is some evidence that it may impede the healing outcomes and some evidence that it may assist. A better emphaisis is a period of continued rest with exercise if that desire is felt.

ALB""You don't need to lose any weight and you shouldn't have that much bodyfat although you can be pretty skinny and have more bodyfat if you don't have muscle. One of my skinny friends male 5ft 7 and 147 pounds was shocked at his bodyfat which was much higher than he thought it should be. But he does no exericse,has no muscle mass and no way should he lose more weight.""

So why not break that cycle and "translate" the body fat to muscle?? Fasting as a stepping stone could be both suitable and fine. probably applicable in both the cases you mention.

ALB"""Short fast will be all would do at your weight. Maybe 10 to 14 days on water. You could maybe go bit longer on juice like 21 days. You could drop 30 pounds on 20 days of water possibly. No permanent damage should be done but wouldn't be trying for any biblical length fasts like 30 or 40 days. But hey its always up to the individual.""

Fast duration not a big issue here assuming that no underlying contraindications exist. ALB's suggested weight drop may not occurr. That depends on underlying water retention and body fat percentages. In my last Water Fast I got to 65kg on day four and very slowly drifted to 64 kg over the remaining 10 days of the fast.

ALB"""Also people with low body fat will not have much energy on water fasting."""

I am at the lower end of normal BMI. I have low levels of body fat. When I dry fast I am jumping out of my skin for seven days. No energy lack here. Suspect heightened and very efficient metabolism and underlying fitness has something to do with it.

ALB I am excited that you are now doing a water to demand fast. Sorry for this but often I find your counsel difficult to accept. I hoped that with time and experience you may realise and respect much of the experience and work done by many on this forum. This background has informed many. I for one benefited enormously from the efforts of others here. Well I remember an early post here which elicited one response: "Someone has done their homework." I am proud of that response. I researched and could link each of the above points on this site before I made my comments above. Can you do the same? Rather than posting as you do why not research your points before offering counsel?

Using your byline "But Hey everyone is different" can be seen as a cop out from trying to learn.

Happy fasting, reading and researching.

All the best trimnut2.

Yay for fasting buddies! :)

Thank you for sharing your inspiring results from your past fasting experiences, and for the book link as well. I did come across that yesterday and did read several chapters. I didn't know Shelton's work was available online, and I have been very curious to read some of it. It has been very helpful, though I have to admit I find it hard to know what information could be outdated. After I read the home page of this web site: http://roylretreat.com/
a couple of weeks ago (specifically the second paragraph), I have been wondering what scientific principles are in need of updating.

So am I right in thinking that today is day 3 for you?

I woke up at 2am last night and could not get back to sleep. I finally quit trying and got up and paid bills at about 5:30. I am guessing that sleep is even more important than usual when fasting, so I've been trying to take it easy today. It was amazing how much clearer my mind was than usual! Even on so few hours of sleep. Paying bills took about half the time it normally would. This is great motivation for me to continue. I feel so much more like my old self already.

Take care :)