Magnesium, worse fatigue? 
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I am more fatigued right now than I have ever been in my whole life. It has progressed more and more for maybe the past month or two. It was never a real problem, just a usual symptom every once in a while. I picked up weight training again a month ago and had more energy than I had in a long time. I was able to do it every other day and sometimes 2 days in a row. Then I read about magnesium deficiency, caused by whatever illness I may have, which may be candida, leaky gut, lyme, Epstein Barr, parasites, fatty liver..
I started taking very small doses of Magnesium Oxide, then Magnesium Citrate (as I found out it may be a lot better for me). From the first day I took it, I noticed I was a lot weaker. At night, I was extremely spaced out the whole time.. I might have slept better than I have in a while as I have had insomnia to varying degrees for years, but I did not get the rest I needed and began getting more and more fatigued. I continued taking the Magnesium because I thought it could help me get my bowels moving as I had been constipated and bloated for a long time on the candida diet. It never did help with that. I just got more fatigue. Unfortunately, I kept taking it for just a few more days, not even a week in total, and now I've been barely able to stand or even sit for any reasonable amount of time. I get more of that achy, flu type feeling all over, and very bad brain fog on top of it all.
I was also taking a lot of hemp protein powder which contained a lot of magnesium in the last few days, but I don't think I went much over one gram..
What the hell is this? I've stopped taking any magnesium now, but don't yet feel any improvement. Has no one else experienced this before?
I am pretty sure this is mainly due to the magnesium. I would start getting spaced out and fatigued within minutes after taking it.
The only other supplement addition lately was L-Glutamine for leaky gut.
One last thing, I've been having a lot of muscle twitching on my left tricep. It twitches like crazy multiple times a day.
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- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? Trick X Master
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This is a reply to # 1,649,159Magnesium does make me feel tired and relaxed. Which has been very helpful for me because I have a wired but tired feeling all the time. The magnesium helped with the heart palpitations. Although, now I have read your comments I plan on stopping the magnesium and only doing 200 mg at night for sleep.
I will have to watch for the magnesium now, If I am not feeling jittery anymore I will not use the magnesium. I am glad I read your post. - Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? RyanD
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,649,159Sounds to me like you are ignoring the symptoms of your leaky gut syndrome and looking for something else to blame it on.
All you have complained about are symptoms of leaky gut syndrome and/or a magnesium deficiency. - Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? Hveragerthi
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This is a reply to # 1,649,159I seriously doubt the magnesium is doing this. To begin with the magnesium you are taking is almost entirely magnesium oxide. Magnesium oxide if frequently used by manufacturers because it is the cheapest magnesium available. But it also happens to be the least absorbable form of magnesium. Another problem with magnesium oxide is that it reacts with water forming magnesium hydroxide, which is caustic. The magnesium hydroxide burns the intestinal wall leading to diarrhea in higher doses. This is also a really bad thing in cases of already existing intestinal inflammation. On the other hand you are not going to absorb any of it within minutes. Being that your reaction is that quick I would say it is more likely an allergic reaction to something in the tablet.
You would be better off with magnesium malate anyway, which is great for increasing cellular energy by increasing ATP levels.
By the way muscle twitching is a symptom of magnesium deficiency.
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- No H, he took CITRATE North
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This is a reply to # 1,649,211H, please read his whole post before replying. He stated he switched to citrate awhile back.
Also, muscle twitching, although it can be a sign of magnesium deficiency, can also be a sign of deficiency in some other mineral.
There are other posts elsewhere online where people with adrenal fatigue (which I'm guessing H is not one of) need to go very slowly with magnesium increases, or risk muscle weakness.
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This is a reply to # 2,040,279Could muscle twitching also be a sign of scatter (body parasites)? That is how I first discovered I had a parasite infection.
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- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? BradC88
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This is a reply to # 1,649,211supplemental Mg wont burn the intestines..LOL thats is absurd. you should really do your homework before posting statements like that.
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- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? hapoel
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This is a reply to # 1,649,159Never noticed magnesium to cause any tiredness.
It's for you to test whether it's magnesium though by eliminating it for a few weeks and then trying again.
Btw, what is your dïet like? - Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? linenup
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This is a reply to # 1,649,159Magnesium and calcium are like dance partners in that if you raise magnesium, you will dump calcium and vice versa. It is quite possible that you are wasting calcium by adding the magnesium although this occurs in fewer people. Muscle twitching could be from calcium depletion, try adding a little calcium (high quality) and see if that helps (stop the magnesium for now).
It is also quite possible that there may be some interactions with the potassium/sodium balances as well. And remember that sodium/potassium have the same interactions as the calcium/magnesium.
You will have to rule out what is causing the problem by simple experimentation. As a previous poster mentioned, magnesium oxide is a poor form of magnesium.
Exatest or traceelements.com are great tests for observation of the critical balances of minerals. Highly suggested.- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? No Unicorns
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- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? homesickalien
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This is a reply to # 1,649,412I was taking magnesium citrate 400mg a day before I started with Lam. Dorine told me to continue taking it. This is also the advice from Dr Wilsons book. He describes magnesium citrate as like a spark plug for the adrenals.- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? No Unicorns
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This is a reply to # 1,649,418What would you do if Dr. Lam is just some 400 lb. dude in a trailer in Alabama who is good at faking male and female voices? - Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? Klauss
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This is a reply to # 1,649,418I read somewhere that two minerals work as spark plugs for adrenals (one of the sources was body builders' site). zinc aspartate (chelated mineral supplement) is the easiest to absorb form. I am taking ZMA 3 pills = 30mg zinc, 450 magnesium.
- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? beyond67
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This is a reply to # 1,649,643I dont think sparking the adrenals is what is needed. I think the spark plugs are on overdrive already.
- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? beyond67
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- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? No Unicorns
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- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? linenup
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This is a reply to # 1,649,412There are many forms that can be used, it is thru my observation that different people respond differently. Magnesium chloride is a good form, and I like UltraMag from Source Naturals which is a mixed blend.
- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? homesickalien
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- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? No Unicorns
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- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? Helder
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This is a reply to # 1,649,159Did you started recenecently eating ou added other supllmentes other than magnesium..You say you are taking hem powder..That is loaded with Mono-Sodium-Glutamat (Natrium Glutamat) glutamate..It must be causing your fatigue..check tha out
- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? CrowJourney
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This is a reply to # 1,649,159I took a magnesium liquid supplement for four days last week and had to stop. From what I've read it's an indication of a kidney problem in that they are unable to flush out the magnesium properly and toxicity occurs. I am currently WIPED out with fatigue and trembling. I would advise drinking plenty of clean mineral water from glass bottles and possibly getting some natural or prescription diuretics to clean out the rest of the mineral.
- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? kittycat77
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This is a reply to # 1,649,159Sorry that your magnesium is not helping you. Personally I don't understand how mg can make a person fatigued, unless it's the type that they are taking. There are a few forms of magnesium that aren't that good for us. One such form is magnesium oxide, which is usually added into many supplements and is not well absorbed in our bodies.
Three forms are very good, namely, dimagnesium malate (magnesium malate), magnesium glycinate and mg citrate. Also keep this in mind, it takes 6 months to correct a mg deficiency.
Now the type of magnesium that I take is magnesium malate, which has a time-released formula to it so it doesn't overload your body with too much mg at once. It gives you a slow release throughout the day. My kind also has B6 and some Folic Acid added to it.
Hope this helps, and hope that you get some relief. - Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? AthenaGen
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This is a reply to # 1,649,159I realize that this was posted years ago, but I'm going to reply anyway, in case someone else is having the same problem.
Magnesium is definitely the reason for your sudden fatigue. I would know, magnesium nearly killed me (I have adrenal insufficiency as well). Most people with adrenal problems have difficulty producing enough aldosterone, the hormone that regulates the amount of blood in our bodies. This results in low blood volume. If you are also dealing with some sort of blood parasite, (again, like me), the blood loss can be tremendous. To ensure that the brain and vital organs recieve enough blood supply, the body constricts the blood vessels to a smaller size, so the blood doesn't pool in the legs. When magnesium is taken, the blood vessels dilate. This results in a very relaxing effect in people who have enough blood to fill the now larger blood vessels, but in people like us it can result in fainting, severe fatigue, and if enough is taken, coma, heart failure, and death. When I took magnesium I fainted within 30 minutes, couldn't form coherent sentences, and lay in a coma-like stupor for a few hours before sleeping for a full 27 hours straight. Keep in mind that even in healthy people magnesium overdose results in coma and heart failure. If you're looking for something to support your adrenals, I've had success with vitamins C & E, the B-complex vitamins (nutritional yeast is great for this--try "Kal" brand), bee pollen (excellent for energy), and adaptogenic herbs like licorice and eleuthero root (check mountainroseherbs.com, they have them both for cheap and a lot of information on the two). Also be sure your consuming enough salt, as low aldosterone will cause salt wasting. At least a teaspoon a day is recommended for low blood volume. I would use a good quality Sea Salt , or himalayan pink. You can add it to soups, or dissolve bits of it in the water you drink throughout the day. I hope this helps!- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? Tiger Lily 813
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This is a reply to # 2,023,315Thank you so much! I have the same problem!! I used spray magnesium oil and though yes, it is calming it's so calming that I was lightheaded and out of it all day. Good to have confirmation that it's not necessarily good for us all. Thank you!
- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? magtired
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This is a reply to # 2,141,409glad i am not the ohnly crazy one. mag makes me exausted mentally and phsically- no matter what the form- i can get away with spray on. the real q is- how do you bring this up to a dr that wll actually listen to you?
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- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? AhoyThere
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This is a reply to # 1,649,159Yes this happened to me too. I had severe adrenal fatigue. One of the supplements I tried in the form of a spray was mag. chloride. Slept 12 hours a day on it!!!
- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? AhoyThere
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This is a reply to # 1,649,159PS. It seems excess magnesium is not helpful for people with adrenal fatigue. It causes loss of sodium which forces the adrenals to overproduce aldosterone to keep sodium high enough.
- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? freddysmith
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This is a reply to # 2,188,449Anyone work out what is causing this or what to do? Or do we just give mag supplements a miss
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- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? littlebirdy33
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This is a reply to # 1,649,159I know this is an old post but hopefully other people read this.
Before taking mag sups, I came across possible mag OD symptoms and although it is VERY unlikely to OD from magnesium, it's always good to have an idea of what those symptoms look like..
but to me, OP seems like he might have showed symptoms of overdose... muscle weakness, confusion..., inability to exercise.
Just look up magnesium overdose symptoms online..
i couldn't post a link because I just made this account today to post this lol. :/ - Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? David Hammond
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This is a reply to # 1,649,159Citrate (and malate) can chelate aluminium. If you have problems with either of these forms of magnesium it probably means you have high levels of aluminium in the brain, and the citrate is moving it around in the brain.
It may also mean you have mercury toxicity, as mercury can cause retention of aluminium.- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? CalamityJane
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This is a reply to # 2,321,287parsley and cilantro both remove heavy metals from the body.
my two cents.
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- Re: Magnesium, worse fatigue? #222054
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This is a reply to # 1,649,159Hi Mr Crab I just read that potassium is often increased in the body with afrenal fatigue and since hemp powder has quite high levels, perhaps thats the culprit? Another consideration: have a look at the additives in the supplements you take.. ie magnesium stearate, etc.. this is tcell inhibiting and a lot of sources say we should limit our intake of supplements with these 'binders' which are actually decreasing uptake it the vitamin itself plus compromising our immune system. Adrenal fatigue responds badly to all substances/chemicals (ie harsh cleaning products, perfume/cologne we use, cosmetics, etc) so stands to reason these fillers couldbe counter productive. I have chosen to look at which foods give me the vitamins and minerals and increase those, plus take superfoods that are 100% clean ie chlorella, spirulina, maca, ashwaghanda, acerola powder for vit c...licorice root tea andwill soon add rhodiola. Good luck, I knowthe frustrations very well with this rollercoaster ride! Take care, hope this post may help.
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