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Nearly every winter I start to get pretty chronic anxiety (absolutely baseless anxiety; although there ARE stresses in my life, my body will find a way to panic about nearly anything irrelevant!). Sometimes it is set off by something traumatic/stressful, other times it begins out of nowhere. I also feel myself getting more and more depressed as the days get shorter.
Lately, I've been getting horrific nightmares. Aside from that, I will wake up in the middle of the night or early morning (sometimes after I have slept a sufficient amount of time, but it is always still dark outside) shaking uncontrollably. I won't remember having a bad dream or having anything to be anxious about, but all of the physical symptoms of a severe panic attack are there. I am shaking very violently, I feel scared for no reason, my stomach aches and my heart is beating wildly.
I have been able to alleviate these symptoms in the past with B12 supplements, but this winter, I'm not taking the same type that I took before, and perhaps not the same dosage. Regardless, for a few days, my anxiety completely vanished, only to come back with a vengeance recently. My diet is very clean, no fried foods/excess sugars/etc. and plenty of organic vegetables and proteins. I don't take any medication but I'm starting to think about it. I take a multivitamin, fish oil, chromium, chlorella, 5HTP, B12, calcium, and occasionally acetyl-l-carnitine. I am on a homeopathic supplement as well (gold/arsenic) but I don't know if it's helping or hurting.
Please help.
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It sounds as if you suffer from seasonal depression (SAD), which is triggering panic symptoms. Do you have a history of anxiety/panic besides during the winter months?
I can understand your wanting to get relief at any cost, which would entail medication, but don't do it. In the end you will be sorry. They do more harm, no good, and are highly addictive.
Supplements that will help are:
Colloidal Gold: This supplement works in a three-fold way. It encompasses body, mind, and spirit. http://www.utopiasilver.com is a very good source. In fact, they have a first time buyer offer where you receive one bottle free for every 8 oz bottle ordered, but you must call them to receive this offer. After that, by inserting coupon code LR001, you receive a 15% discount if it is not on sale. Colloidal gold lifts one's spirits.
L-Tryptothan
I-Theanine
Trace Minerals. Make sure they are plant derived. These are also available from Utopia Silver the above coupon code will get you a 15% discount.
Bach Flower Remedies. Go through the list and pick products that relate to your particular symptoms.
Hawthorne Berry Syrup will stop a racing heart.
Look into iodine supplementation. I take SSKI and magnascent. You can get added information as to the benefits of iodine with regard to anxiety and panic conditions in the iodine forum.
During this time, make sure you do things to relax and to make you "happy" such as relaxation exercises and meditation. If you are not familiar with these, I will be happy to give you pointers. Also, the emotional freedom technique (EFT) should be of help. This works by tapping on certain acupressure points throughout the body.
I believe that these suggestions should be of tremendous help to you. Of course, continue with a healthy diet. Try to eat as much raw as possible. No sugars or refined foods.
My best to you,
Luella
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,528,577Thank you for your extensive response, it really means a lot to me! I will look into what you've mentioned. I never knew Iodine had anything to do with anxiety or depression. I don't eat a lot of foods with Iodine in them. I had been a raw vegan for about 3 years and was severely deficient in B12 until I started supplementing about two weeks ago and incorporated animal foods into my diet. This helped a little bit, but I still get depressed/anxiety. I don't use a lot of animal foods or salt/iodine-added foods, so I think I should try iodine.
I'm supposed to receive a Bach Rescue Remedy in the mail soon but it hasn't come yet.
Almost all of my history of anxiety/panic can be traced to fall/winter months surrounding it. I'm pretty sure I do have SAD. It is almost debilitating. I know medication can do more harm than help, but I am really open to any sort of help and I have experimented with too many things that haven't worked for me, which is why I'm considering it.
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This is a reply to # 1,528,588Hi marshmallow,
As someone who is familiar with how debilitating panic and anxiety can be, I perfectly understand wanting relief by any means. My anxiety and panic was year round, although I will say that during the winter months, especially from the end of daylight savings until the middle of January, it became absolutely unbearable.
Unfortunately, during this time in my life, I knew nothing about natural healing, so I resorted to conventional medicine (benzos and antidepressants). I will share with you that although they made me able to "function," they did not truly heal me. And the relief that I did feel was overshadowed by other side effects. It was when I found natural alternatives when true healing took place. I revamped my diet and took the proper supplements. I was then able to wean myself off the meds and this was a grueling process. Anxiety and panic has many causes. Mine was emotionally based, so I had to also address these issues.
Before you seriously think of opting for meds, give these a try.
My Best,
Luella
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,528,631I guess I'm just reluctant because I've tried so many supplements and natural approaches to no avail. I'm just beginning to utilize cognitive therapy, so I am very excited about this approach, and I guess I neglected to mention that I had untreated Depression for about 5 years and suffered from a pretty severe eating disorder/agoraphobia for a while as well. I am in the process of truly committing to recovery for the first time so I'm not thinking about the meds as a permanent solution, just as something to ease the physical symptoms that I'm having and for the winter months when it's at its worst. I have responded positively to antidepressants in the past, but I didn't stick to them because I didn't really care about getting better. I really appreciate your help and I will look into your solutions, particularly iodine, as I continue to try healing this. Thank you so much for understanding.
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This is a reply to # 1,528,741There is usually more to the problem than what is on the surface. For some reason, and I don't know exactly why, the onset of early darkness makes everything worse. And sometimes it's bad enough under normal circumstances. You and I have a lot in common. I was also agoraphobic and although I wouldn't classify myself as anorexic, when under extreme anxiety I just don't eat becoming dangerously thin. Anxiety/panic disorders must usually be addressed in a twofold way encompassing both physical and emotional aspects. If the emotional aspects are not resolved, even though we do everything to properly nourish the physical body, healing will not occur. It may get better, and become manageable, but there will be no true healing. Healing from any disease (and especially this one) encompasses body, mind, and spirit.
Rather than relying on antidepressants that are merely a very poor bandaid, it may be best to seek the natural route, together with finding someone who could help with underlying issues. All antidepressants do is shut down our emotions, and emotions are an integral part of our life. The secret is finding ways to channel them constructively. learning how to listen to them. Our emotions many times are the key to our deepest needs. The problem is that society has taught us how to shut ourselves off from our emotions and keep them bottled up. Hence, the reason for why so many suffer from anxiety, panic, and other emotional disorders. Antidepressants also have dangerous side effects, two of which are weight gain and Type II Diabetes. In essence, even though antidepressants may be a "quick fix," they are merely a bandaid and no true healing occurs. Therefore, the initial problem will resurface in the future. Yes, true healing may take some time, but it is a healing journey, and at the end we can be assured that we have true health and total wellbeing, in body, mind, and spirit.
Believe me, I know the desperation that you speak of. I have been there. Maybe the solution would be to find a doctor of naturopathy. They would guide you in all aspects of healing, naturally.
My Best,
Luella
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This is a reply to # 1,528,966I completely agree with you. I am trying to get more regular therapy sessions and I am contemplating seeing a holistic nutritionist/naturopath. I just feel like I've been experimenting with too many alternative remedies simultaneously and I can't really tell what's helping or hurting. I know I need to be patient because I've only started healing a few weeks ago and I can't expect to rush into health after spending so long letting my being deteriorate willingly. I'm not seeking any sort of permanent or long-term fix from medication, I just want to extinguish some of the chronic physical/mental symptoms so that I have the capability of working out my issues through talking and recognizing my bad behaviors before they can start again. I don't know if I've mentioned this before, but I was medicated in the past although I was resistant to recovery for my ED/ Depression - now I really want to get better and am willing to try anything, be it holistic or traditional, or a combination of both. I really can't thank you enough for offering me the time to listen and respond to this post. Bless you. <3
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This is a reply to # 1,528,992Hi Marshmallow,
"A few weeks" is just the beginning in your healing journey. Sometimes healing and self discovery takes a bit of time. Focus on each bit of progress that you make and rejoice. Whatever route you choose to take, first and foremost love and nurture yourself. It begins with loving oneself.
One thing I would like to point out in the following statement that you made:
I can't expect to rush into health after spending so long letting my being deteriorate willingly.
Hmmmmm......... You didn't necessarily let yourself deteriorate willingly. An anxiety and panic disorder is very complex. As you know, many times depression is also involved. When caught in its grip, too many times we are not truly aware or have the wherewithall to realize what is happening to us and we slide downhill, slowly, but downhill nevertheless. So many do not realize the seriousness of this condition. For example, this very condition has caused me to deteriorate, but it was not willingly. And to fully explain the aspects of this statement would take a chapter in a book. In your healing journey, do away with any aspect of blame and replace it with unconditional love. Actually, at the end of your journey, you will discover new growth that maybe you would not have attained if you were not given this challenge. I know......... a very painful challenge.
In the end, I want you to know that I support you and that I am here for you. It's all about loving and accepting oneself, primarily.
Many Hugs,
Luella
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This is a reply to # 1,529,154These things can start with conscious decisions or unconscious patterns running. There are also influences by forces that hold power. Agenda to harm.
However the spiral starts, that isn't the important part. What we focus on grows so as long as we keep look at the why we keep recreating the situation and feed the loop.
The key here is to recreate balance so your flow returns.
Raw living foods takes care of the physical aspects.
Unlocking emotional loops can be done with things like EFT, TAT, etc. Lot's to choose from. Try one that fits your sensibility.
Mentally you can use self hypnosis to remove subconscious distortions. The Sedona Method will also help clear negative influencing thought forms. Also increase your awareness on matters of health, abundance, etc which will show you what is occurring on the collective stage of life so you can steer around things with ease. Knowledge is power in this regard.
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This is a reply to # 1,529,157"What we focus on grows so as long as we keep look at the why we keep recreating the situation and feed the loop."
I think that is a very wise statement. By ruminating over things that we cannot control from our pasts, we only make the situation worse. It's better to try to put our effort into making the present a great one, than analyzing the past to the point of exhaustion.
I was a raw foodist for about 3 years, on and off. I can't say that it really helped me heal, because it was an extension of my eating disorder. I find it a lot more healing for myself to eat cooked foods because it eliminates the feelings of isolation and deprivation that I meant to instill with my "fruitarian" diet or whatever I was going for at the time (I did eat lots of greens, nuts, seeds, etc. - they definitely helped, but I am aware that my body needs more than just raw foods to process at its best). I know that living foods are very healing, but for me, cooked foods are just as much - and there were lots of nutrients I deprived myself of that caused a multitude of deficiencies for me. I've noticed that eggs, fish, and Indian spices are very helpful to me in particular. I eliminated all fats from my diet for years, so I was in need of them for a long time.
I am practicing deep breathing now and I hope that in time, I can fully heal myself. An eating disorder really takes a toll on a person and can create a lot more than just stringent rituals with food or behaviors. I'm very young but I've spent a good deal of my life in the pits of Depression and isolation due to this disorder. If anything, I hope that the advice you've all given me can benefit others as well as myself. Namaste. <3Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 1,529,215When people don;t thrive on a raw living foods diet it is usually because the foods chosen are grown in poor soil and are missing minerals. My guess is that if you added properly grown barley grass and dulse to the mix you would reap enormous benefits. Cooked foods are toxic. There is much Science to back this up. The chemical changes to food after being cooked creates a negative immune response.
As Linus Pauling said it's all about the minerals. Add to that the enzymes and the transfer of vital force in living foods and you have amazing power within.
Also remember that most organic stores have nutritionally deplete offerings for food in the area of mineralized food.
Wholefoods chain is nototorious for having weak food.
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This is a reply to # 1,529,154You're very right about replacing negative thoughts and blame with unconditional love. I felt like it was moreso the eating disorder that I willingly inflicted on myself, but I knew somewhere inside myself that the Depression went hand in hand with it, even if I didn't want to admit it. I will let you know how I'm doing and hopefully I can share the story of what's worked for me in the future. Love, marshmallow. <3- Re: Nightmares, anxiety, shaking, de... LuellaMay
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Again, no matter the circumstances or the outward appearances, you in no way willingly inflicted the eating disorder upon yourself. There were reasons why this happened and they are most likely rooted in your subconscious.
I look forward to your healing testimonies in the future. Remember......... Healing encompasses body, mind, and spirit.
Love and Hugs,
Luella
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This is a reply to # 1,528,537A couple of thoughts come to mind:: SAD (seasonable adjustment disorder) is a winter disorder >> one of the newer findings deals with SAD and Vitamin D status. This is a very good website about vitamin D status http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/research.shtml.
Secondly you probably would benefit from taking magnesium. Calcium and magnesium are both antagonistic and synergistic. Taking high amounts of calcium will drive magnesium levels down, contrary to the general consensus magnesium is much more important than calcium. Magnesium controls over 350 enzyme reactions in the body and low levels are shown to increase heart disease, stroke, immune and neurological systems (including sleep, Depression anxiety etc.).
Vitamin D plays roles in metabolism of both calcium and magnesium. Stay away from Magnesium Oxide, try Magnesium Chloride or other good forms of magnesium.
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I take liquid vitamin D in an olive oil base (Liqui-D) and I take Source Naturals calcium. I think I eat a lot of foods with magnesium in them, but I know you're right about getting enough of it and it affecting my mood. I really think I have to cart my dozen of supplements and show them to the holistic nutritionist near me to see if there's anything I have to work on. I thank you deeply for giving me a thoughtful response. <3- Re: Nightmares, anxiety, shaking, de... linenup
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This is a reply to # 1,529,124Sometimes the best thing is to just observe. Lay off the calcium for a few days and increae magnesium and see what you get. The more logical thing to do is to do a TMA (hair analysis) Traceelements.com is the best test. Is the product D3 or D2?
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This is a reply to # 1,528,537I too faced and suffered a lot because of the same problem marshmallow. Really I was so depressed and I cant able to show interest on anything. That was really an bad experience for me Later I found a good relief from Anxiety and Depression problem through Hypnotherapy and its various techniques. After trying hypnotherapy session I feel such a good relaxation and it increased my self confidence and self control. Now I able to live with a good interest and relaxation and I got a good control over stress and depression. And I am to sleep peacefully.
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This is a reply to # 1,571,721That is awesome my friend! I was cured of severe Depression and anxiety through hypnotherapy as well - I'm the happiest man alive.
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