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- Re: BANNING:Has V ever been banned? zazaG
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,308,760I'm guessing his own forum was, as some are, to keep him out of some others?
V has anyone banned you from their forum? or on the Support Forums ?- I'm guessing you're new. nm #99206 16 y 9,382
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You are misinformed. Anyone can ask for their own forum. The only question is if they have anything to say and if people will come visit it.- Re:Is that right you just ask the we... zazaG 16 y 9,656
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,305,474i agree with that.
you have proven you can control drinking as long as you dont drink. is that too easy?- haha controlling drinking Trysten3000
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This is a reply to # 1,305,492I don't want to "control drinking". FOr me, drinking is all or nothing.
I see absolutely no point of trying to get control to where I can have "just one drink". WHats the point of having just one drink? No buzz? Making my liver deal with some small amount of alcohol with no payoff? Looking nifty and mature sitting there holding a glass of red wine? (I could do that with grape juice)
What I'm saying is, I am a creature of extremes. Don't know why, but I always have been. Alcohol is a useless substance, there is no point of using it in moderation. It does nothing for me. The only thing Id use it for was to create havoc and a break from boredom replaced with destruction. Trying to have just one drink is like saying I have to "try" for alcohol at all. Why should I try for this useless, shitty, toxic substance? There's no point.
FOr me, it's either wild party drinking or never drinking again at all. Wild party drinking is obviously not workin out anymore so I'll get my kicks elsewhere. I'm now a non drinker! It's official. :D - Re: Oh dear! zazaG
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This is a reply to # 1,305,492Really?
There is no controlling drinking for alcoholics or addicts
It appears one can control whatever the substance (even food)it is that is your escape from ________________________________ and ______________________ and ______________
fill in the blanks (what you desire to escape from)
Self Pity and a high IQ- most addicts are very smart - what a dangerous combinations
Why,
Because Persons who have achieved success with their analytical skills and are inflexible but know inside they are a fraud; one knows who they really are (which no one else sees or can feel in this about the addict)
This bright mind will say "I can control this - I'll just have 2 and then quit-
This may work for many months but after one shi@@y day at work or argument with your wife or____________________ (fill in the blank) then it will be until you are drunk and all bets are off....Yes you may go back to 2, but the incident of 4-5 will raise its head again.
And within 1 month-1 year you will be practicing your addiction just as you left it when you first got clean
White knuckle dry drunks are not drinking but are not healing either, nasty acts
Addiction requires a higher power (not a higher ego power) humbleness, and a real moment of clarity:
"I am going to die, if .......I continue" And one knows you will if you do not allow your self to heal
It is at several levels (peeling the onion) that one actually begins to heal the real problem
- control, and healing the source of t... Trysten3000
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This is a reply to # 1,307,383Thats why I think its important to look at WHY you were drinking in the first place. Self control is always valuable, and we definitely can just choose not to drink, it's not that hard, but I don't just want to NOT drink, I want to find real happiness and real self love and respect. You have to do look within and do the work on yourself, which can be hard but I'm excited about doing. Because its just like you said, you can hold out and not drink for periods of time but if you dont understand what triggers you to drink in the first place you WILL go back to it at some point.
I've figured out my biggest trigger is boredom and having no one around me that I can tolerate sober. When I have good, fun, funny friends around me I have no desire to drink because I love being around them! All the times in my life I got really wasted a lot was times when I was surrounded by absolute trash and felt like I was either going to 1) go insane or 2) get do drunk I could tolerate them. lol.. sad but true.
Thats why I never have any desire to drink by myself, I enjoy my own company too much! :)- Re: If htere is noone around you can... zazaG
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This is a reply to # 1,307,862unfortunately its ususally about intolerance for yourself
sorry but that's the way that one swings
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- You Already Know UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,305,467"It's that I get bored with happiness and destroy everything once Im doing well. This has been a pattern for a long time. It's not the alcohol I'm addicted to its the destruction. I enjoy, on some sick level, destroying my life. I knew what would happen when I started drinking again. I almost wanted it in some weird way. My trigger? Boredom and lack of fitting in."
The problem isn't alcohol... or your geographical location.... or the people that you associate with.
This is about your relationship with You.
Some reading that might interest you...
http://www.creativespirit.net/learners/counseling/docu35.htm
http://primal-page.com/stormy.htm
http://www.intuition.org/txt/cgrof2.htm
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This is a reply to # 1,306,368You are right. The next time I get bored I'm going bungee jumping or something lol.
Thanks for the links! - Re: O, last time I posted Grof you w... zazaG
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This is a reply to # 1,306,368some sort of analytical discussion about the sociological ....I've forgotten it actually, but you were not particularly supportive
and while I agree with this post I find irregular that you aregue both sides of the coin so well when it suits you
Or did you go back and read Grof again?-
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This is a reply to # 1,316,115"I find irregular that you aregue both sides of the coin so well when it suits you"
I think you're reading something into my post that isn't there. No argument... just questions...
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1144709#i
And no... I haven't had time to review of read any more of Grof. As for the follow-up in that thread... I get what was said... although there's something moving through me that in time you may come to understand.
Best ~ O
*For your avatar...
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This is a reply to # 1,316,419Ha, those are feminine napkins not bandaids- lite days to be sure
Hilarious, and that little warrior face serious and totally ridiculous
Preparing for adulthood! :}
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This is a reply to # 1,305,467Hey Sweetie,
You know I love you and am praying for you. But I must say, based upon this one post of yours here, that you truly did need to hear ALL these posts to you, NOT justs the "love and light" ones!
Sweetie, you know you have problems...as do we all. (I know I most certainly do, and I'm just as good as anyone else in trying to blame someone else, including God, but that gets me NOwhere).
Support Forums must include "tough love", too. Please recognize that.
I can give one example on the "religious" front. As a follower of Christ (well, I try, anyway, and fail a LOT!), I have gone to those "hell-fire and brimstone" churches as they are a part of my husband's family's way. I can't stand them...they are NOT for ME.
HOWEVER, there are some incredibly sweet, kind, and loving people who tend to "need" that kind of leadership. Each person knows what will help them.
Honey and praise will go so far.
But we all need a "spanking" once in a while to get the full message. Some need "spankings" more often than others - some do not. Many paths are available, and I hope you find the path that will work best for you, and I hope that path includes God because HE did not give you the celiac problem - mankind did; mankind and our self-willed need for greed.
You know I love you, and I wish you well.
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This is a reply to # 1,307,782What I don't understand is why one would need a "spanking" when they had ALREADY admitted to their mistakes and resolved to change?
It makes no sense to me. I've made the choice to no longer drink as a result of the negativity drinking caused me. I've already had my wake up call. What is the point of verbally abusing me now? Is the guilt and pain I've suffered as a result of my actions while drinking thus far NOT enough that I now need to be called "shameful and disgusting"? If I didn't already feel shame and disgust towards my actions, I wouldn't have resolved to change. I don't really get it.. maybe Im missing something but it's like.. I'm not drinking. I don't want to drink. I'm over drinking..Whats the problem?
P.S. I'm not a "Christian" in the typical sense but I've always been very spiritual and believe very strongly in God, my path would always include God, there is no other way, I thank God for everything, everyday. :)
P.P.S. Love you! <3
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This is a reply to # 1,307,792Please try to understand that you are reading the typed word, and not seeing the faces shown behind the typed words.
You're young - and I do know how you feel. Truly.
You are NOT "over drinking" just like you are NOT over being a celiac anymore than I am NOT "over" sugar. (I had too much milk chocolate this week and it sent me REELING...I had to refrain from answering many posts for awhile).
Oh, there is no doubt you WANT to be past drinking - but please try to look at this thread with new eyes...and reread what you yourself have told us with your own words.
We do love you and we do want the best for you. Yeah, even Vulcanel. (even if he gets on here and says, "bullsh_t")
I gotta go. In time, you WILL see this.
I love you!
(I'm not a Christian in the "typical" sense either)...fwiw...
PS EDIT:
As far as "spanking" goes, I think it's under-rated. I am almost 52 and I actually wish I had a man strong enough to see through the BS I pull sometimes and put me over his knee when I deserve it. a la John Wayne in those oldtime movies...but my own husband is still too busy eating more even when his gut is making him cry out in pain. Makes me just want to SLAP the snot out of him! lol
I don't mean spanking as ABUSE, just as a wake-up call. A "reminder" if you will. One that will "stick" with you...
When you're in Thailand, you will remember some of the things that have been said to you this week, and you will be grateful.
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