- I Really Don't Understand... by Aharleygyrl
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- Hope this helps a little, HG. by #18637
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- I am not sure any of us here on this earth really understand !! by kerminator
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- Re: I am not sure any of us here on this earth really understand !! by Aharleygyrl
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- Re: I am not sure any of us here on this earth really understand !! by #18637
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- Beautiful Poem. by gypsy13princess
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Enjoyed reading the peom. Change your perception, change your life.
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- Re: I am not sure any of us here on this earth really understand !! by Aharleygyrl
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| oh, ok, these comments are difficult to follow sometimes, the way they are listed. i missed this one. i like like Pat and Joyce because they appear to be genuine. they have the means to get a message to a broad audience and i don't feel they abuse it. i do no discriminate against a preacher just because they are on tv. marilyn hickey and her daughter are good people too, just i don't like it when maryiln raises her voice, so i don't watch much. i do not believe those shows that have the people standing there and they blow on them and they fall, or the ones that get out of their wheelchair and say they can walk. i have heard too many phoney stories about that. but, i will tell you, my great grandma went to see oral roberts when i was a kid. her leg hurt so bad she could hardly walk. she said he healed her. that woman was a saint, so i don't know. i was either very young or not born when it happened, but i was told about it many times by my mom. if it were not my grandma, don't know if i would have believed such a story, but she raised me for my frst 9 yrs and she was as honest as the day was long. the poem is nice, but i still cannot understand why some people have to suffer, especially children, when people are praying. everyone says prayer will work, much of the time it doesn't, even if a nation is praying.
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- Re: I am not sure any of us here on this earth really understand !! by #18637
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I don't think all televangelists are phonies. I think Joyce Meyer has good messages. I have very mixed feelings about Pat Robertson. I like Joel Osteen very much. But remember, they are still human beings. I do believe big miracles can happen as far as healing, etc., but they don't happen for everyone. If it's biblical you're looking for, just remember one thing, they don't call Him God the Father for nothing. When you're little and learning and your parents don't let you have something you really want, boy do you get p****ed off! They are unfair, horrible meanies. But don't you realize later they knew what they were doing even if you didn't understand it at the time? I feel it's the same with God. His will be done, not ours. We don't understand now, but in time perhaps you will. If there's no suffering, there's no growing and learning. You ask why some and not others. Why did my son end up handicapped? Well, why not? Who am I, the queen of the world? It just happens for whatever needs to be learned or done at the time; the good suffer with the bad. That's life, period.
That being said, if you keep banging your head against the wall looking for an answer to why, you're going to make yourself nuts. I spent years doing that. I still wonder why, but I've learned to live with it and know I have to wait to find out why, and you will, too. You sound so much like me the past 14 years. That's why I keep responding to this thread. I'm hoping to say something that will help you even a little because I know what it's like to keep wondering. I drove my friends nuts, my family nuts and probably the people on this forum nuts, but nobody ever gave up on me and eventually I began to accept things. I battle it every day still. I don't think I'm helping at all. I'm sorry. That's all I really wanted to do because so many took the time to help me on Curezone over the years, and I was bad.
I've read lots of your posts on other subjects and I think you're a really sweet soul. I wish you were my neighbor. We could commiserate with each other.
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- Re: I am not sure any of us here on this earth really understand !! by Aharleygyrl
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| well, i watch Pat as he speaks and he truly believes what he says and i get warm fuzzies from him (good vibes). he is a nice old man. unfortunately, my parents gave me everything i asked for. i was an only child. they gave me money to keep me away from them. are you saying the queen does not have any handi-capped children? yeah, the only thng one can do is wonder or have complacency about it because there is no way of really knowing, that is the agnostic viewpoint. yeah, i wish you were my neighbor, too. feel free to move to san diego. you can stay here while you find a place.
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- Re: I am not sure any of us here on this earth really understand !! by kerminator
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Lady: your Blog really rocks...
Sorry to be so late on this reply, but have been down on the coast; this past week... Maybe I can catch up on where we were... Well we will get back to some of the how and Y's of life and GOD!! This is not a know it all view; just some wisdom collected over the years...
The obvious if you really think about it; This that why we were all given "Free Will" to use; other wise if GOD intervened every time something did go a certain way or other... Then there would not be any free will or personal decisions made by us human mortals on this earth!! DUH!!
But since we have the, i.e.: Devil, Satan, Boogie Man, or just the bad guys; which are the opposition in all things; Then they would have complete control and we humans would be Meir "Robots".... HUH!! You can see that folks??
Now where does that leave us?? Well it is either total domination as directed by the 'Devil" or a life of "Free Agency" as allowed by " GOD" ; so we can decide who we would like to follow... Believe me; we will follow one or the other!! So as you can see the real problem is to try and not fall under the realm of the Opposition or Devil; who has many tricks or stuff to enslave people.... i.e. Gambling, Dope, uncontrolled sexua| behavior, meanness, murder, robbery, rape, on and on etc...
Hopefully you can get the BIG PICTURE here; folks... BTW: I could not have made this up; even if I wanted to folks... HUH!! If you believe otherwise then stop reading this; because you do not have a prayer of ever understanding what is going on in this world or the ETERNITY to come... I feel sorry because you are truly mislead and/or lost...
Now I will continue to discuss what I have learned about this world and our part in it on my web site @ http://www.simplytruth.com... That way I will not cause too much discontent here on CZ blogs... My book a novel; based on an adventure - mystery book { With some serious views on our pathway of Life.} should be out this fall... ( Everyone should plan to get several copies to help my retirement fund! :-)
It will contain the Quest of the "Spirit Warrior".... Enough of the unpaid spots; really I will be getting down to the more elementary things of life!!
Sorry that I can not make it more simple; but this has been going on for ages...
Thanks Lady: Keep up the "Cool Blog" with all the diversity and variety of replies...
See Ya... Kermit
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- Re: I am not sure any of us here on this earth really understand !! by Aharleygyrl
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| well, thanks kermie. i am going through a bit of transition in my thinking,don't know where it will lead me. i have tried so hard at times to be a christian and believe, but too much bad happens and i am just not certain right now if there is this god that many speak of. the whole adam and eve thing with us having a paradise until we sinned and someone had to die so we could sin, just doesn't set well with me and it has proven not to be a real good time on earth, with all the destruction and sickness and death, etc.... no one has been able to prove it definitively either way, although both sides say they can. i just don't know...it was real tough losing tammy faye at 65 and it's real tough losing my cousin to cancer when he is a good guy. he suffers so much and he has always believed in god and been good, so it just doesn't make any sense at all why god supposedly heals some and not others and answers some prayers and not others. i mean, this lady was on 700 club and she said that God healed her foot. well, that is all well and good, but others are dying a miserable death and are not healed, yet they believe and have everyone praying. ifit is all a test of faith, well it's a sick test, i'm sorry. thanks for your post and support, i appreciate it
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- Excellent question! by #69242
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I don't know why anyone would choose to believe that God can answer our prayers or fix our fate...lets consider all of the innocent children who suffer in our world, some brutally murdered and tortured by their own parents. Don't you think if God could save anyone or protect anyone He would help the innocent children??? My 80 yr old neighbor, who knows how I feel on this topic, came to me one day and said, "I was driving in my car and I lost control of the wheel, but by the grace of God I did not crash and I was saved." I said, "I would call that lucky." If God could go around saving all the old people from crashing their cars then surely he could save some children from getting raped or murdered, right???
For me, it is much easier to believe that God can't help us here on earth, but he loves us and wishes us the best!!!
Speedy
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- Re: Excellent question! by AHarleyGyrl
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Well, I watch Joyce
Meyer and 700 club and they are big on prayer. They say you have to do it
and God answers them. It still does not explain why some are not
answered. But, your explanation doesn't make sense, either, because it is
said he knows everything and can do anything, etc.... He would have to be
some sick pervert to kick back and say, "I wish you the best.", knowing of
all the horrible things that happen to many people. Everytime I want to
throw in the towel, that there is no God, not one who exists now and loves
us, I still cannot answer the question..where did we come from? It is
possible we came from molecules and atoms and junk, but it is hard to
grasp that because our concept of being is dependent on a beginning..and
that doesn't suggest how all the molecules and atoms came about in the
first place. I sometimes think it is easier just to believe in God so
that those kind of questions don't need answered. But, when one sees all
the pollution and destruction and sickness, ect... in the world, it makes
it very hard to swallow. Carlin is pretty funny on the subject:
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- Re: Excellent question! by #67299
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some things cant be explained. cruelty and terrible circumstances exist. this doesnt mean there is no god
if id go on a new-age rampage id say from what ive read, that the universe/people always need growth. disasters, wars and other things seem to be a learning process
cant be white without black, etcetera. how would we able to VALUE happiness without having experienced some portion of blackness
not everything is in gods hands though. we have our own responsibility in trying to deal with governments and institutions which bring us down
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- Re: Excellent question! by AHarleyGyrl
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Yeah, but kids and babies dying and people living in poverty with leperacy and stuff until they die an untimely death, I just have a hard time with that being growth. We are taught no one is better than anyone else, but truthfully in our society we treat many as though they are better than the poor and ill in third world countries. I don't need to learn value by watching some people starve to death. But, then I am one one of those who doesn't think you need bad to know what good is. They had it in the garden of eden, if one believes in genesis. you're right, it is all the institutions. It is Capitalism that is in control of everything and only a few possess all all the means of production that enslaves us to them.
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- AHarleyGyrl, you are so sweet!!!! by #69242
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It is beyond any human's ability to understand why...we are here to shepard the earth and to prove our loyalty to God, that is all we need to know. I understand what you are saying and based on the information that you put on curezone I can see that you are a very deep, compassionate and caring woman, but there are lessons learned from everything happening in the world, even the unmentionables...all we can do is try to do are job as humans the best we can---take care of mother earth and all life on it and to love and care for each other, the way God has asked us to do!!!
Be well and know you are loved,
Speedy
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- Re: AHarleyGyrl, you are so sweet!!!! by AHarleyGyrl
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thanks speedy,
there are a few on curezone who would disagree with you 100% and they hate me, lol. but, i am not a conformist and a lot of people like conformists.
as to taking care of mother earth..we are doing a very very very lousy job. we will soon be losing our polar bears. the only lesson i know for sure we are learning is that pollution eventually destroys the earth and it's inhabitants.
i go back and forth with the religion. but i watch joyce meyer every day and pat robertson on the 700 club when he is on it (sometimes it's gordon).
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- Re: AHarleyGyrl, you are so sweet!!!! by #69242
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I don't believe in organized religion at all!!! I believe we will get so much more out of the bible if we read it on our own and allow it to direct us on our own personal paths...God speaks to each of us differently and we must learn to follow our hearts not other humans. If we followed God's word instead of world leaders, and that includes evangelists, then we might not be where we are!!!
I manage to upset lots of people here on curezone as well, but I have the best intentions at heart, as I'm sure everyone else here at curezone does.
We are going down very quickly and it is only going to get worse. All any of us can do is try to remain strong in our convictions and do the best we can to do right here on earth.
Blessings to you,
Speedy
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- Re: AHarleyGyrl, you are so sweet!!!! by AHarleyGyrl
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well, i like Pat and Joyce. I think they are very nice and sincere people, and they help a lot of people, too. I don't not like people just because they are evalgelists. In fact, Tammy Faye was my favorite of all time.
If we are going down, doesn't sound like much of a fun life to me. It makes one wonder what we are doing here in the first place if the world is going to go to hell in a handbasket. The 70s were fun, though, and most of the 80s.
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- Re: AHarleyGyrl, you are so sweet!!!! by #67299
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- Too true by #69242
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I say this to my kids all the time... "How can you know pleasure without experiencing pain?"
Life is bittersweet.
Speedy
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