Re: Science or Logic?

I did more than dally with the diets I tried, I just did not see results. I am lactose intolerant, so I am well disciplined with things like this, and open to them. I avoid coffee for instance because it makes me itch and break out, I don't drink because it makes me feel lethargic and slow the next day regardless of the quantity consumed. I have always eaten a very healthy diet, prepare all my own food, buy mostly organic, etc.

I eat zero factory food.

The distinction I drew between cure and remission is one based only on the dictionary definition of each. I agree that it is splitting hairs to make the distinction, particularly if you are the one enjoying the cure/remission. But I have been given a hard time in the past in other places for not drawing that distinction, so it is habitual and reflexive at this point.

As to introducing something that is not part of my environment I have developed a broader concept of that since studying the subject of helminths to cure disease. The phenomena of curing autoimmunity with helminths is widely accepted and proven. So what is the underlying explanation for the phenomena?

It seems to me that given millennia together, humans/primates and helminths, that the human immune system, has adapted to their presence. Particularly those presenting with autoimmunity: Crohn's, asthma, hay fever, colitis, multiple sclerosis and psoriasis/dermatitis. For all those disease the helminth link has been demonstrated in double blind controlled studies by independent research. There is also evidence that it may work for Rheumatoid Arthritis , lupus, scleraderma, migraine, and type 1 Diabetes, etc. That is a lot of disease, suggesting that the helminth link is a very important one. Current thinking, and I agree with it, is that the helminth/primate relationship was so common and so long lived that our immune systems have evolved to account for their presence and their down modulation of our inflammatory immune response. Absent that down modulation, for those who are adapted to their presence, the immune system goes awry.

If one accepts that line of thought then the absence of helminths is what is unnatural, and my ideal environment is, from the point of view of my genes, one that includes helminths.

It is broadly accepted that the industrialized world has resulted in changes to our environment, many of which are not beneficial. I would add to the list of environmental damage, at least for people like me, the eradication of parasites.

Public health programs and the introduction of sanitation including sewers represented an enormous change in our environments. It is impossible to look at that without accepting that it is likely that those changes had unintended and deleterious consequences. In the tropics 1/4 of the population has hookworm, about half have roundworm and other proportions I am ignorant of have Tapeworm and whipworm or strongoloides. Removing them from our bodies and environment represents an enormous change.

All I am proposing is to reintroduce them into my environment in a controlled and moderate way.

After all, it is the lack of moderation which causes problems with these organisms.

I enjoy our discussion, but boy does it eat time.

thanks.


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