Re: Direct response

see. i told you. snakes.

what does jesus say?

Matthew 6:15 [Full Chapter]
but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.


Matthew 18

21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. 23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. 24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. 25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. 26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. 28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. 29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt. 31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. 32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: 33 shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? 34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. 35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.





and just so he cant change it:

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Tansybelle, I've mentioned this on a number of previous occasions and it just seems like you cannot or will not process this fact: some people do not want to be saved. They don't. Nothing that you (or, anyone else) can say or do is going to make them "change." Only God has that power, not you. Not me. And, it seems as if I'm wasting my time to crack this door open for you. You want to take credit for bringing someone to God that does not want to know Him. At all. You do not have that power. You do not have the power to stop anyone from writing or saying anything that you find abusive or offensive. You don't.

You wrote, "The problem is Im not totally convinced by what the number said, I wouldn't be giving Trapper a chance to change. The number saids he won't change, I even thought like that but my view has changed." The individual that you are chasing eats up what you're doing and it feeds your issues in an endless cycle of abuse, hurt feelings, hope, abuse, hurt feelings, hope, abuse.........and, so on. When people behave this way, it's a dysfunction and it is a compete distraction from what we're supposed to be doing: working on ourselves, FIRST, and sorting it out with ourselves, FIRST, before we try to convert someone who is utterly unwilling to let go of their control issues. This, in itself, is a control issue.

Every time you respond to this person's outrageous comments or type their name, you're giving them what they want. They want controversy. They want to generate angst. They want to monopolize every conversation and they have various means to do this, and you jump into that fray and then have the nerve to wonder why it's such an ugly interaction. This person GETS OFF on hurting other people. They like it. They crave it. It's better than sex because it's ONGOING.

You're not going to get a better seat in Heaven or a special feather in your cap for this effort. You're not. You're only going to continue to experience offense, confusion, and feed that control issue with the byproducts of the offense and confusion. Whatever angst that you feel or experience from your interactions rests squarely upon your own shoulders - you're begging for the abuse, over and over and over.

Titus 3:1-3, 3:8-11
1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,

2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.

8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

10 A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject;

11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.