THANK YOU everyone! This is a ton of info I have to wade through but appreciate the info & discussion. Good Smaritan I am not sure raw meat is for me...I don't think I could get it down without gagging. And I have had bacterial infections (camphlobacter) in which I almost died & since have never been quite the same. I don't even feed my dogs raw. A good friend's dog almost died recently..she had been feeding him organic raw meat. Many breeders do...dog almost died from botulism. He was paralyzed for several hours & was rushed to ER. Maybe someday I will eat my words, but not today!