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#70779
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I've been vegetarian for 1.5 weeks now. I was formerly a HUGE meat eater. I now eat tons of fresh fruit and veggies with occasional grilled fish but other than that, no grain, dairy, eggs or meat and make a point to drink 2 liters of water a day. I'm also 1.5 weeks into a full body cleanse. I've gained one clothing size and about 15 lbs. What's going on? I have mild itchiness right above my hipbones, I have huge rings under my eyes, my skin is dry, eyes are puffy, I'm cold all the time. My Acne on my face cleared up but I ate some organic dark chocolate and had two little zits by the end of the day. Is this normal? Should I be doing more to detox? Has anyone else changed to vegetarian eating and had their body go haywire? Would a liver cleanse help? My stool also looks like food is going through unprocessed.
Any advice would be great.
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- Re: 1.5 weeks magic_glitter
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This is a reply to # 786,988Sounds like detox to me. You should juice everyday if you don't already. Fresh juice helps majorly with speeding up the detox process. Maybe take some herbs like milk thistle for your liver and kidneys. No doubt they're highly toxic from all that meat. Also, the weight gain may be from the fact that your body is likely taking in fewer calories than before,so it's storing everything. Give it a few weeks and it'll burn itself off as you body adjust to this new way of eating. Stick with it!! :) Also, what are you doing in terms on raw fats? Sometimes limiting fat intake while eating only carbs can cause weight gain. If you're eating around 20-30% quality fat though, I don't imagine that's the problem. The weight gain could also be part of a parasite die-off, have you done a parasite cleanse before?
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- Re: 1.5 weeks #70779
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MoreThis is a reply to # 787,189Thanks for the advice Magic, I'm currently doing a full system cleanse that has a liver capsule in it (mostly milk thistle). I am NOT eating very much fat. I eat really nutty trail mix about mid-day. SHould I start eating more avocados and cashews or macadamias? I love those! Maybe some grilled fish? And I also like coconut milk, is that a good idea? I did a saltwater flush at 8:00 this morning and everything I ate came out pretty fast until about 2:30 and then I got REALLY hungry. I did a parasite cleanse about 1 month ago and I do the parasite herbs when I do my Liver Flushes too. My second Liver Flush about 2 weeks ago is what spurred this on...amazing, huh? I woke up from having done it and decided that I wanted to go vegetarian hopefully to vegan later. I just bought a gallon of organic, unsweetened apple juice. When should I drink it? I drink a liter of water first thing in the morning, sometimes I add salt.
I really appreciate the advice!- Re: 1.5 weeks magic_glitter
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This is a reply to # 787,304Congrats on becoming vegetarian!!
Yup, it sounds like fats may be a problem. First thing: cut down on the nuts, you only need about a handful a day. Too many nuts cause constipation and stomach upset. Your fat intake should mostly be raw oils, like cold-pressed flaxseed oil and extra virgin olive oil, and coconut oil (use coconut oil for cooking or add it to smoothies, or just take a spoonful and eat it lol). I don't know how many calories you eat, but somewhere around 40-50 grams of fat a day is probably near what you need (20-30% of your total calorie intake). A few avocados a weeks are good too - 1 to 3 a week is fine. Coconut milk is great, expecially if it's fresh. For the juices, try juicing your own if you have or can get a juicer! juicing everyday is GREAT for cleansing. Processed juices bought in the store have lots of preservatives in them to give them a long shelf life. They're really not nutrient dense unless they're completely fresh from a juicer.
I'm not a fan of meat (I'm vegan) so I don't believe in eating fish. But it's a choice - if you do decide to eat fish then do so only a few times a week - 1 to 3 times is enough. And make sure it's fresh and mercury free. For protein, try making shakes with raw hemp protein powder (from healthfood store - mix with fruit, water and coconut/nut/rice milk if you like). You can also use chickpeas and lentils for protein. (Are you taking good B-12 and iron supplements?)
Take care not to parasite cleanse too often - you'll create bugs that are resistent to the cleansing herbs and thus they'll take longer to die. Every 90 days is fine for a parasite cleanse until you're clean, then you can extend it to every 6 months.
Also, the weight gain could be partially water weight. You said you're drinking a lot of water, and when the body isn't used to getting that much water it stores it in the body. Your body will let it go when it realises the water is going to keep entering the body, so there's no need to store it. Don't worry, it's only temporary! :)
- Re: 1.5 weeks #70779
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This is a reply to # 787,323Thanks Magic!
I used to take Flaxseed by spoon in the morning, will start that again. Can I just drink the coconut milk? I really do like it. I've been shopping for a juicer but my boyfriend told me to use his a couple times and then determine if that's a road I want to go down. They can be a pain in the arse if you're not used to them. His is sitting, gathering dust in his kitchen. Any suggestions for an iron supplement? Any idea why my right hand swells up occasionally after I eat and in the morning just before I wake up? I drink 2 liters of water a day, should I replace one of those liters with juice or drink it in addition to my water? REALLY jazzed about trying raw hemp protein!!!! So excited!
Thanks for all your help!!!!!!!- Re: 1.5 weeks magic_glitter
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This is a reply to # 787,658Yup, you can just drink the coconut milk! Is the milk your having or coconut water? Is it from the coconut or from a package? Try juicing fresh orange juice (peel the oranges) to start out, or fresh apple juice. The taste is SO much better than the prepackaged stuff. Carrot juice (fresh) is one of the best overall cleansers, but unless it's made from fresh carrots (like the ones bought at a farmer's market or the ones with the tops on them) it doesn't taste that great. I add a few oranges (2-4 oranges) and a lemon to my carrot juice (I used the bagged carrots that are cheap lol) and it tastes pretty good! If you juice a 1-inch slice of ginger (peeled) on the slow speed of the juicer with the carrot/orange juice it adds a nice kick.
The best iron supplement I know of is this:
http://www.florahealth.com/flora/home/canada/products/r4771.asp
They sell a great calcium supplement too:
http://www.florahealth.com/flora/home/canada/products/R4730.asp?CategoryID=74...
Your B-Complex supplement should be liquid. I've tried the powdered capsules stuff, it doesn't work (the body can't fully absorb it). I just ended up anemic. Liquid is the best way to go for iron, calcium and B12.
I have no idea about your hand. Do you have any other symptoms that go with it? Dizziness? Nausea? it could be just a cleansing reaction, but what are you eating? It could be an allergic reaction too.
Drink 6-10 cups of water a day, depending on your weight. If you weigh less, you need less water (more around 6), if your weight is average, you need around 8, if you weigh more, you'll need 10. So 2 litres (8 cups) is probably good for you. How much water did you drink before? If your body isn't used to that much water, then it could be cleansing. I'd suggest jucing first thing in the morning as breakfast to give your body a break from digesting.
The juice is technically a food, not water, so no, it can't be substituted. Another thing: Drink water either at least 10 minutes BEFORE eating, or 1 hour AFTER. If you combine water with meals you'll wash out all the enzymes in your stomach and you'll get bloated and won't digest well.
The raw hemp protein is generally not very good tasting on it's own, but if you combine it with coconut water, fresh fruit of an alternative milk (rice, nut, hempseed milk, ect.) then it'll taste fine. Experiment :)- Re: 1.5 weeks #70779
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This is a reply to # 787,967Hey Magic! Another great post from you, thanks.
I buy the coconut milk that comes in a can. I know it's not the best quality, but it's good and does the job. I'm going to try my hand at juicing this coming weekend and probably see if I can get the hang of it on christmas weekend(4-day holiday). My dad bought me S.S.S. Tonic for my iron and B-vitamins. It's in liquid form and makes me feel like I got a shot of energy big-time when I take it in the morning. I think my hand swelling is from the cleansing. It happens every morning around 5, like clockwork. I am up for work by 5:25 and by then I can hardly make a fist...interesting. I think the 2 liters of water is about right. I can try doing 3 a day for a couple days and see if that makes a difference? I've been drinking 2 liters a day for probably 2 years but all of that meat and dairy did a number on my liver, spleen and kidneys. My goal in all of this is to feel/be healthy, not have to go to the doctor anymore for strange bodily issues, clear up my acne, lose weight (I've gained 20 lbs since I started cleansing), not crave junk.....etc. I tried to eat chicken over the weekend and I didn't like it, tasted bad. I didn't crave the bacon at breakfast AT ALL and a lot of dairy products, even in small quantities make me itch... I'm going to make it to the store this week to get the hemp powder. I was in Vail all weekend and there aren't exactly health food stores in celebrity ski land....I don't really count calories when I eat. I just eat when I'm hungry, is that okay? I usually eat fruit for breakfast with one liter of water, trail mix for snack, vegetables for lunch with a mojo bar or something, an apple as a mid-afternoon snack and beets or green beans or a salad with spinach, cabbage, pine nuts, tomato, onion, maybe a little feta, cilantro and some kalamata olives with olive oil for salad dressing. Sound good?
Back to you!- Re: 1.5 weeks magic_glitter
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This is a reply to # 789,788Out of curiousity, did you ever break your wrist or a finger, or injure your hand in someway? Or do you have arthritis/joint paint in your hand?
You diet sounds good, but watch out for the trail mix! That might be a culprit to your weight gain. Trail mix usually contains tons of nuts and dried fruit, which are very calorie dense. Is the trail mix raw too, or roasted? You might want to substitute the trail mix for maybe 12 almonds and some carrot sticks, or a hemp protein shake, or 2 pieces of fruit. Careful about the coconut milk too, it's good for you but too much will cause weight gain because it too is calorie dense. I would have a cup of it, max. 1 cup of prepared coconut milk has nearly 500 calories.
Not paying attention to calories and eating when you're hungry is good and natural, but I WOULD be wary of portion sizes (different than calories). A portion of nuts is about 10-15 nuts, ect. Eating too much, even if it's healthy and ignoring portion sizes will cause weight gain (unless it's a vegetable, then you can eat as much as you want because they're so low calorie). Don't freak out about portion sizes and focus on them TOO much, but be aware of them.
If you have access to a sauna, maybe at your local gym, try to go everyday if you can! The sauna is great for getting toxins out of the system, and can help with Acne over tiime. Though I've struggled with acne, and it will be one of the last things to clear up. But progress will me made!! Have you done any other cleanses? ie. parasite, heavy metal? The fact that your tastebuds are changing and you don't like the smeel of meat anymore if a good sign! Your body is detoxing!
- Re: 1.5 weeks magic_glitter
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- Re: 1.5 weeks #70779
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This is a reply to # 787,967Hey Magic-
I've noticed since I upped my protein and fat that I've been getting dry mouth easier and I'm getting constipated. What gives?- Re: 1.5 weeks *edit* magic_glitter
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This is a reply to # 790,080How much protein are you eating and in what form, and how much fat and in what form? Since you're cleansing I'd only do about 10-15% protein in your diet... protein is building, and you need more cleansing fruits/veggies. You only need about 20-30% fat. The rest should be fruits and veggies.
I just cam across this - This message was posted as an aid for dry mouth:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=783406#i
Try and see if it works :)- Re: 1.5 weeks *edit* #70779
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This is a reply to # 791,302Hey Magic :-)
I'm eating my protein thru nuts and fish (fish every 3rd day). I'm definitly trying the Sea Salt in the water trick. I just bought some Sea Salt this weekend, so off I go to try. I also got some advice to put more greens in my diet, not so much fruit. But I LOVE fruit. I'm going to keep eating fruit for breakfast and have romaine and spinach with avocado and almonds for lunch. Will carrots hurt? I juiced carrots over the weekend and loved it.
THanks again Magic!- Re: 1.5 weeks *edit* *edit* lol magic_glitter
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This is a reply to # 794,319Of course you should have more greens in your diet than fruit! :) I assumed you were eating large salads everyday? And a few pieces of fruit, from your description. If you're basing your entire diet on fruit then you're missing out on the essential nutrients and cleansing properties found in veggies.
...I also noticed in your above thread that you insinuated that I encouraged your coconut milk consumption. Please re-read my message on this thread, I clearly did not. Coconut WATER and coconut OIL are great, but canned coconut MILK is too high calorie and over-processed for my tastes. I wouldn't consume it in large quantities, if at all. So please don't say I said something I didn't :)
Juicing DAILY may help your constipation. Some people find at least 1 cup of fresh carrot juice and 1 or 2 grated beats in a salad later on help greatly in constipation (note: beets will make your stools red, don't worry about it - it's just the beet's natural colouring). I have used this method successfully in the past to stimulate a bowel movement. Carrot juice is great too, you can drink lots of it (I"m glad you like it!!). Carrot juice with one or two oranges juiced with it is delicious - and if you're feeling spicy, throw about an inch of ginger root on the slow speed of the juicer in there too. BUT if you juice daily it should be your breakfast - do not eat for breakfast, drink instead to give you digestion a break. So you can juice up to 4 cups of juice to keep you full if you want. I like 1 cup of pineapple juice (1/4 pineapple), 1 cup Celery (4 stalks of celery), 3 oranges and a lemon. You can also add carrot juice with another meal or juice it along with your other juices. It'll help you detox faster. In the summertime, you can juice pretty much anything you cna get at your local farmer's market. Fresh apple juice is good this time of year too. But carrot juice, along with oranges, are excellent master cleansers.
... do you eat ONLY romaine and spinach? No other vegetables? Heh, that will hafta change!! Broccoli is your friend!
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- Re: 1.5 weeks chava
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This is a reply to # 786,988Too much carbs and not enough protein/fats would be my guess. Cut down on fruit, especially fruit juices, as those contain a lot of sugar. Eat more vegetables (and fish if you want to do that). Also add more fats, such as coconut oil. If you’re a protein type, then it’s difficult to do well on a vegetarian diet. It didn’t work for me...
- Re: 1.5 weeks #70779
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This is a reply to # 787,243Thanks. At this point, yes, I'm just trying to figure out what works....currently trying to put more fat and protein in my diet. Time will tell
- Re: 1.5 weeks #13442
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This is a reply to # 787,694HI
CAn I ask what your main goal is? to do a cleanse of your body or to change your eating habits to a vegan based one for the rest of your life?? I am now a vegan for 2 years..I ate tons of meat my self..all the time..it made me feel sick to my stomach..When I first became a vegan I did gained weight as well..I dont' know why..perhaps the change my body was going through. I just jumped into it..and eventually ended up eating more binging on meat more and more some days. I then decided I have to stop be obsessed with my weight and start focusing on myself..to be healthy and love and accept myself..I tried that using Meditation and yoga technique..I went to meditation/yoga Classes 2x a week..Now I practice at home and go once a week..At first I ate only eggs, and seafood after some months and going to meditation/yoga classes..that changed, I stoped the seafood and eggs. I went thru periods of overeating junk foods, cakes, pastries etc..etc..Now My daily diet cosists of steamed veggies, steamed pototates and root veggies, rice. Sometimes bread..Beans, fruits. I dont' drink that much water..It makes feel sick..my stomach bloats too much water..I drink no juice..but instead eat the whole fruit.
AFter all that meat eating..I did a cleanse..I just bought some cleasning pills from the store and had that everyday and drink green tea..I ate whatever I wanted to, even meat at one point..I had 2 regular meals a day..6-8 hours apart. after the cleanse I felt better..I continued the meditation/yoga, its becoming a part of my daily life now slowly :). I am now a vegan and am proud..its been 2 years..I have no cravings for meat..though at times I get cravings for pizza, and I have a sweet tooth..pastries..when I get cravings..I satisfy it..I dont' over indulge..I am trying to love myself, its a wonderful thing to do first..its a long process and not easy to love oneself..sounds weird
If you have any questions feel free to email me.
good luck- Re: 1.5 weeks #70779
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This is a reply to # 787,907Thanks for the message!
My main goals are to be/feel healthy, lose weight, clear up acne(tired of spending tons of money on my face), get rid of allergies and sensitivities. I REALLY would like to be vegan for the rest of my life. I'd like to try my hand at Fruitarian, that looks WAY fun. I was a HUGE meat eater for the past 2-3 years and I think I have Mono-Sodium-Glutamat (Natrium Glutamat) poisoning. Lots of processed meats. But since I started doing liver cleansing, full system cleansing and vegetarian eating (fish twice a week, no dairy, no eggs, no mammal products) I am very indifferent to the sight and smell of meat and don't like the taste either. We shall see how it goes. I'm going to go to try my hand at yoga this week. Wish me luck.
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- Re: 1.5 weeks deeep_seeker
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This is a reply to # 786,988It's not just about de-toxification -- it is also about adaption.
It is a huge difference between the SAD or any standard omnivore diet, & a total vegan diet -- every item you eat have different nutrients & toxins that you must adapt to.
I whould like to find foods that gives me all nutrients we need, & then adapt to the toxins in that food!
Adaption is a simple truth, but noone cares!
Also what foods you combine in a meal changes how you will digest the food.
2 big main-factors!
So I will start a forum where we will find the best foods!
- Re: 1.5 weeks magic_glitter
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