Just reading all the posts above.. thought i might throw my two cents worth in..

I must be an exception... I have been constipated all my life. For years only finding relief with herbal laxatives (not heathly relief) or pure fruit/veg diet, BUT now having found B&P shakes, i have fantastic bulky, well formed, moist stools. I took the weekend off just gone (because I was away and couldn't mix my shakes) and it straight away, back to small hard, dark, dry little impossible to pass rocks! (stools)

So somehow - the B&P shakes keep me going, and well.

REgarding the comments about pooping 20 mins after each meal. I read that too, in Dr Shultz notes, but feel although it might be 'ideal', for those of us who used to only manage once a week.. we are doing just great reaching 1 a day! I feel great now at 1 - 2 a day... It works for me. But stimulants of any kind. herbal or non - seem to upset the stomach and bowels so often that I have lost faith in products of such nature. (inluding Intestinal #1 & #2!!)

my 2 cents!

chow :)

No that's not what I am saying, I was relating my comments to Deep6's problems. However, I would err caution if you were only having one BM per day. It is far better to improve the frequency of bowel movements with herbs, water and fibrous foods then start on the P&Bs slowly. One will get better results that way too.

Hi there, To me my diet is not strict but to others it probably would be! I wanted to get healthy and fit so bad that I was prepared to make any change necessary. It is no big deal to me now though. My taste buds and appetite have changed dramatically and I have no desire to eat meat, dairy, wheat, sweets, etc, etc. I eat mainly fruit and vegetables, most of it raw. Big salads are my favourite. Also I eat loads of sprouts, millet, quinoa and short grain brown rice. I drink lots of water, freshly made juices, alkalizing broths, herbals tea and organic goats milk whey. Added to that I use lots of organic olive oil, Udo's Choice oil blend, flax oil and a wholefoods supplement called Omega 3 Basic. At the end of the day I take 5 caps of Primal Defense, which is probably the best probiotic around. Occasionally I will use digestive enzymes, OmegaZyme is the best I've found, if I am eating cooked foods.

It took me about a month to start removing plaque but it came out very easily and in large quantities; which is what you tend to find when you use herbs and do some preparatory work. If you simply dive in with P&Bs you not only run the risk of constipating yourself through dehydration but also by bunging yourself up with hardenend plaque once it is removed from the walls of the colon. This is because without using herbs or taking a colon cleansing formulation with mucotriptic and mucocorrective properties (ie. mucus softening, loosening and dissolving), such as Holistic Horizons, Ejuva or Arise & Shine, you are going to simply pull off thick hardened layers of mucus from the walls of the colon. This stuff is as hard as rubber tyre and can be very painful and difficult to pass. In addition, there is the risk that it may scratch, tear or harm the lining of the body as it attempts to pass it out. Surely it makes sense to take some time to prepare the plaque for easy and efficient removal? As I said before colon cleansing is not an easily and quickly accomplished task. It took years for your colon to get in the state it is in and, whilst it will not take anywhere near as long to get it back to normal working order, it will take time. There is no quick fix I'm afraid. Unfortunately, it seems that this is what everyone wants these days. It is a particularly unattractive facet of Anglo/American culture which we have grown accustomed to, people want everything yesterday and are not prepared to put the time and effort in to acquire what they desire. Rant over!!

Hi deep6,

Assuming, I hope, that you were asking me how long it took before I passed plaque and about my diet. I changed my diet completely about 6 or 7 weeks before I started using the b&p shakes. I also followed an enema protocol for 5 weeks before starting on the shakes. So things were moving well and I had eliminated some parasites and things that looked like jelly beans with the enemas. I knew that I must have plaque in there, so I started with the shakes with the intention to get it all out.

I found that a change in diet is the single most profound change that I have made and has had the best effect on my health.

My diet consists of lots of fresh (homemade) vegetable and fruit juices, lots of raw salads with olive oil and sesame oil, rice, dal and vegetables lightly cooked without water. My diet is an Ayurvedic diet particular to my constitution. Occasionally, I eat A LITTLE chocolate, but this is the only cheat I crave actually! Followed afterwards with apple/celery juice.

So after about 7 weeks of cleansing with diet and enema, I started very slowly with the b&p shakes. First week one shake a day, 2nd week 2 shakes a day. After 2 weeks I started noticing the plaque. It's now been about 6 weeks on the shakes, and plaque is still coming out. My sense is that I'm taking it slowly and learning patience, but have had great rewards nonetheless. My Acne (severe) is COMPLETELY GONE (!!!), my skin glows. I even got 'cat-called' in the street the other day. Believe me, this hasn't happened in ages!

Hope this helps.

Take care,
janaki