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Hi, I'm a 46 yo male who two months ago self-diagnosed myself as hypothyroid and looking for advice and comments from anyone who has similar issues and has recovered.
My symptoms in order of appearance:
* Insomnia: I usually don't sleep longer than 4 hour blocks, and often less. I usually have to sleep in three segments to get my 8 hours. This started 7 years ago (the waking-up-too-soon kind, multiple times in a night. I didn't know the cause could be thyroid so it was no)
* No Appetite: had this at least 6 years
* Low Energy: my physical energy for sports has been uneven for years. I have my high energy days and low energy days that I can sense when I'm climbing hills on the bike or trying to run after a soccer ball.
* Weight gain: At the time the insomnia started I had ulcerative colitis and had been on a mostly raw vegan diet to control the condition (which I think also greatly contributed to iodine insufficiency). After I cured the UC in late 2009 (thank you CureZone!) I left my normal 145lb UC weight
* Inability to Lose Weight: Coming from UC, I was happy about the weight gain until I it went too far. Then I realized I could not lose weight even with one meal a day
* Thinning Hair: the front sides of my hairline suddenly started receding for the first time a year ago. I had gone on a new diet of lots of protein to support weight lifting and I think this strained my system and thyroid.
* Fibromyalgia: Since this summer, I slowly started to develop a stiff back and then a stiff neck, and then I noticed my left forearm would feel sore when I gripped my handlebars and then last of all my left ankle would feel sore too starting two months ago.
* Enlarged Thyroid: Back in September a Nuclear Medicine Technologist saw a photo of me on Facebook and thought he perceived "some thyroid enlargement." I thought he was nuts at first but when I started researching thyroid and felt my thyroid I confirmed he was right. I began taking Selenium and other co-supps in the hope that if I had Hashimotos Hypo I could reverse that off supps alone like I read here happens in 40% of cases.
* Thinning Outer Eyebrows: just noticed this* Lab Results Oct 20th (after being on Selenium and the other co-supps recommended here for several weeks):
Free T3: 5.5 pg/ml (reference range: 1.8 - 4.1)
Free T4: 0.9 ng/dl (reference range: 0.8 - 1.8)
Anti-TPO: 8 UI/ml (reference range: 0 - 35)
TgAB : 9 UI/ml (reference range: 0 - 40)
TSH : I didn't do this test yet as STTM didn't seem to place much value on it and I was paying for out of pocket.With the results above, I felt confirmed I didn't have Hashimotos and began to slowly increase my Lugol's from a few drops up to the 16 drops (100mg) I am on now for a week. I did this pretty quickly as I experienced none of the detox symptoms I had read about. (I fast a lot, exercise and eat pretty well).
Improvements since supplementing Iodine:
* My energy has evened out, no more low energy days. I have so much energy all the time I feel like jumping for joy!
* My skin is feeling very smooth and soft (like I've only felt after water fasting for a week)
* I sometimes feel slight appetite in the morning, something I have not felt in years (except after fasting for days)
* I sometimes sleep longer than 4 hours like 5, so I may be sleeping slightly better. But I still never sleep through the night.But I'm not seeing any improvement on my fibro, weight loss, etc.
I'm wondering...:
1. Should I just keep doing what I'm doing and be patient since this has been going on seven years and will take years to reverse? (Love to hear testimonials on this)
2. Do I need to get to "iodine sufficiency" before the big improvements come?
3. If I should get on some thyroid medication like STTM recommends (like Armour) to knock out my symptoms faster and slowly get off it using the Iodine/supps as I've read some people have done.
4. Do you think I'm missing any other supplements?Thanks in advance!
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Hmm, I thought I'd get at least one reply by now.
Since I'm new to CureZone, can someone advise me on how to get more support here? For example was this post too long, TL;DR type thing? I wanted to give all the information I had, but perhaps starting out short is better and answering questions as they come?
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This is a reply to # 2,217,205I suggest reading these 2 links:
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Our Testimonials:
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Best to you,
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This is a reply to # 2,217,208I was hoping you'd reply! Thanks, Grizz.
I had actually visited and read much of both those pages several times over the past weeks.
But because they are so big, perhaps I am missing something you had in mind. Perhaps could you be more specific on what areas there would help me?
E.g. are you recalling testimonials like mine that you think I may have missed and could help?
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This is a reply to # 2,216,942The way CZ is set up every forum has its own protocol so
when you mention fibromyalgia there is forum for this. Just Iodine is not going to solve all your problems.
What I would suggest is put any problem in the search box at the top of page and click on All forums, you will find forums where it has been discussed. If you go to the Liver Flush Forum s and click on Telman's name to check his posts
you will find he got rid off all his aches and pains with flushes. I am active on that forum that is why I know, but I think you might find other forums with other suggestions.
From Andreas Moritz (archived forum) I learned to go to bed at 10 pm and get up at 6, that worked for me for several years. I got up at 6-7 am no matter what time I went to bed. Now I am retired and I can sleep anytime and sometimes I like to finish a book late at night.
I learned so much from different forums that may be it will help you too.
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Thanks for the reply, Hanna,
My understanding is that fibro is sometimes a symptom of hypo. That's where I believe it came from as I'm very healthy otherwise apart from hypo that I think came upon me from a very common situation of American's being deficient in Iodine for years (or having too many bromides blocking the little Iodine we get).
Also, I'm not taking just iodine. I'm taking all the other co-supplements as recommended in the Iodine forum.
So it is possible that this can be resolved from just fixing the thyroid.
In summary, I'm trying to fix my hypo-thyroid and all the related symptoms including the fibro. (That's why I purposely did not post on the fibro forum as I did not want advice from people with only fibro and no thyroid problem.)
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This is a reply to # 2,217,509There are no easy solutions for optimal health.There is far more than Iodine discussed on my web site.
As you can tell from our Testimonials, Iodine cures a wide range of health problems, including Fibromyalgia. Study the index carefully.
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Study also the chapter on Optimal Health:
https://sites.google.com/site/iodinereferenes/optimal-health
Just Vitamin D3 alone treats a Pandoras Box of health problems:
http://www.solar-facts-and-advice.com/vitamin-d-and-diseases.html
If you want optimal health, then spend quality time at my website. There is no magic pill, no quick answers, but a number of things that you must do.
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This is a reply to # 2,217,520Hi Avimelech...It usually takes about 3-4 months supplementing Lugols Iodine at 50 mgs/day for the achievement of whole body iodine sufficiency. So I would perhaps be patient about it.
If you are on the Lugols Iodine protocol, then you should be taking the FULL protocol which necessarily includes other vitamins and minerals in set critical amounts which includes Selenium, Magnesium, Vitamins B2 & B3(ATP Cofactors), Vitamin C and Zinc. See this document:
The other worrying thing about your symptoms is the lack of appetite and the insomnia.
The insomnia might be due to other factors. If you want to have better sleep, I would do two things.
Start taking Magesium citrate -- 250 mgs twice a day at meals.
Take vitamin B50 complex once every day at breakfast and take higher dose niacin with your evening meal every day. I usually take 500 mgs niacin per day, sometimes more if my day is going to be stressful. Niacin will relax you and give you energy as well. Because niacin also causes the flush(and everyone is different) I would perhaps advise that you should start first by taking 100 mgs a day at your evening meal and work up. This protocol should also help improve your appetite as well.
I would avoid using the niacinamide form -- it just doesn't seem to relax you or work as well as the niacin form.
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This is a reply to # 2,217,524Slowsmile, thanks for the advice. I'll get your sups and get in on it ASAP.
BTW, My issue is not impatience. As I stated in my original post, it took years to get to this point and I can accept it taking a long time to get back.
My main question to you is does something special happen at whole body Iodine sufficiency which until that point the thyroid is not going to fully recover from its hypo state nor the symptoms it caused?
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The whole body benefits for iodine just go on and on. Here is a doc that I wrote after I did some particularly heavy research on iodine several years ago:
When I had candida I started to take higher dosages of LI. I clearly remember its immediate effects were that my brain fog disappeared and my thinking became sharp again, I suddenly had much more energy and all the heavy mucus in my chest and nose suddenly disappeared -- because iodine is also a mucolytic and heavy protective towards the lungs. That was over 8 years ago. Since then I've been taking 5% LI at 6 to 8 drops a day for health maintenance and I haven't caught a cold or flu or anything in 8 years. Iodine is simply a nutrient that our body cannot do without such that if you don't have the right levels of whole body iodine in your body then you are simplyy not healthy.Simple as that.
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Avimelech....The thyroid is certainly important to the body. But at any point in time, a healthy thyroid will store 50mgs iodine whereas the rest of the body stores or contains 1500 mgs iodine. So its blindingly obvious to me that the rest of the body needs iodine just as much as the thyroid does.
Here is a doc I wrote some years ago on the whole body benefits of iodine in the body -- and the list in the doc is by no means definitive or complete;
So as a consequence of supplementing iodine, your health should rapidly normalize and improve.
It might also be an idea for you to see an iodine-literate and thyroid-literate doctor. So here is a list of competent iodine/thyroid literate doctors in the USA.
It's always better having someone who is thyroid competent at your side monitoring your progress who can advise you directly. You might also be helped with bio-identical or natural thyroid hormones. You should avoid all synthetic thyroid hormones from the regular doctors -- they will do you no good at all and generally tend to make things worse.
To help you pinpoint your thyroid problem you should really do the correct lab work. Curing thyroid problems isn't really as simple as just taking iodine. You will need to supplement the right minerals and vitamins to enable the supplemented iodine in your body to be correctly absorbed, transported, stored and used properly in the body. That's why you should find a thyroid -literate, iodine-literate doctor in your own area to help you if you can.
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This is a reply to # 2,217,524Did you ever get relief from your symptoms?
When I tried Iodine supplementing, hair loss was the thing that scared me off and made me stop and re-asses. Anyone have any insight into what deficiency or over supplementation is possibly causing that?- Re: Hypo, now on 100mg Lugol's: Am I... grizz
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This is a reply to # 2,245,229I suggest that you re-post your question at the VWT Iodine Forum.
Iodine and hair loss is frequently discussed. They have the answers on this question.
//www.curezone.org/forums/f.asp?f=815
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This is a reply to # 2,217,520You must also stop eating tons of meat like a pig, or an animal.
Act and eat like a human being and eat a sensible vegetarian frugivore diet.
D3 is a poison. All life on earth originates with differentiated energy vibrations from the sun. Nourish your body with sunlight not pills.
Do not take health advice from a man that has a gigantic neck and who has recently lost over 100 pounds and who is married to an obese woman. This is not the sort you should ever trust. His name is up in lights on the internet because ... ??? fill in the blanks.
This man does not have optimal health and therefore cannot even begin to offer advice to others about optimal health. He was impotent for god knows how long and got his first wood a few months ago. Is this healthy? Do you want to take life-changing advice from this?
The raw frugivores are as close as you will get to people with optimal health, but even they are woefully ignorant about environmental poisons and genetic anomalies like Grizz the giant neck freak.
This Wilson's disease bullshit is pure shit. I read about this shit 25 years ago and believed it for about a year and that was over two decades ago. Mercury is like the likely culprit in t4>t3 conversion disorders though there are other causes as well.
Grizz has an iq of about 4, stay away from this putz.
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This is a reply to # 2,217,639Pigs eat meat?
Where did you get the idea that D3 is a poison? And Wilson's Disease doesn't exist at all?- Re: Hypo, now on 100mg Lugol's: Am I... Edited By Moderator
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Pigs eat everything. They will eat other pigs given the chance.
D3 in pill form is a poison. Go ask trapper. Get your 'D3' from the sun. Get your sunlight from sunlight. Reductionism is a plague. Do you really think that you can reduce the energy source of all life and hence knowledge on earth into a pill? Then you actually do deserve to suffer with whatever disease you have if you cannot see the folly therein. Go read some Johana Budwig regarding differentiated photonic energies.
Wilson's disease exists, but not as stated by Wilson and he doesn't have a solution to it.
All of these diseases named by self-important a**ho** doctors are not defined properly. Supplementing liothyronine will not cure anything when your conversion enzymes are damaged.
Meat can be used medicinally in some cases successfully but you have to be self aware. And certainly not use it as a primary energy source.
Stop accusing me of being natway btw it's a huge insult.
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This is a reply to # 2,217,647Reductionism is more like thinking that everyone lives near or on the equator, that everyone can produce adequate Vitamin D through sun exposure, oh and that everyone could capture photonic energy like plants and use that as our primary energy source.
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This is a reply to # 2,217,789Wrong wrong wrong. Reductionism is looking too closely at the minutiae of phenomena like a bespectacled autistic scientist.
I have never made any of the claims you are implying that I made.
It is a fact that fructose/glucose is the fuel that runs the human body. If you get it from protein it requires a lot of conversion and there is a lot of waste. If you get it from fat there is also a lot of conversion but less toxic waste. Some people can do ok on starches vs. fruit sugars.
You can also ingest Vit. D from high quality dairy, corn silk, or cod liver. All life on earth would be extinguished rapidly without the sun.
I have never laid claim that humans are breatharians like barefoot, that is solely his realm. Humans are Sugar machines. The rest of diet is for structure and support of Sugar burning, and of course oxygen.
Reductionism is having 1000 forums on Curezone all focusing on little minutiae that are not as important as the bigger picture like oxygen and Sugar and water aka breathing and eating fruit or rice.
You also have to come up with your own plan for getting rid of all the shit you have accumulated through the years from toxic exposures and toxic diet - not so easy to do but you have to do it if you want to be well. Everyone has their own little tricks how to do it, but this is not as important as actually doing it as opposed to whining on a forum about my definition of what reductionism is (especially when I am correct).
Reductionism is the creation of the concept of vitamins, something I wholeheartedly agree with barefoot about; the concept is wholly facile and ridiculous.
It's been 10 days since this last post, what have you accomplished since then? I am healthier and more evolved.
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This is a reply to # 2,219,748Healthier and more evolved, huh? Did you lose that extra weight? Well, since you're more evolved now I'm sure you finally see the hypocrisy in attacking someone for being fat when you're overweight yourself.
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Are you confusing me with barefoot?
I have a few extra pounds not 40 and not morbid obesity like grizz. And I am doing it intentionally to help the overall picture.
My standards are high so when I say extra I mean compared to the ultimate physique. I am always within an easy week away from there.
Do you suffer from weight or body image issues?
A lot of women think they they will not be accepted if they are fat.
Thin women are often the most toxic because their intestines have built up a hard rubber casing that prevents nutrient absorption, and then they eat meat because it is nutrient dense, in order to fight fire with fire. It is a dangerous combination that ultimately leads to worse and worse health problems.
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This is a reply to # 2,219,748"It is a fact that fructose/glucose is the fuel that runs the human body."
Correction: This applies only to the sickly human body.
100,000 years of experience shows that a body in good health is fueled by the essential fatty acids from animal fat.
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This is a reply to # 2,217,647I'm sorry but pill form d3 simply is not poison. I have cured allergies and even reversed some liver damage by taking only d3 pills and vitamin k2. I have labs that support this outcome that were taken every 6 months over the span of 6 years and counting. Of course getting it from the sun would be better but it's virtually impossible for people today to get the adequate amount of sunlight they require to be sufficient in d levels uless you are a lifeguard. We were made to be in the sun all day scavenging. We would require 6 plus hours of sun on most of our bodies to achieve what we need.
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