I wish she would have responded. Maybe we could have helped her.

Good point! I felt I had to eat a bunch of small meals throughout the day when I was on the horrible Paleo-style diets which was making me feel like I was severely hypoglycemic because of how toxic those diets can be longterm. I think that person used to eat Paleo too and also complained about hypoglycemic symptoms, so maybe she's experiencing that Toxic Hunger phenomenon that was affecting me. I hope she responds with what her macros are and how many calories she's averaging. Maybe it will bring to light if her current diet is indeed causing her problems. It's up to her though.

OK, this is very interesting, Ive been suffering with adrenal issues for years and when I eat more calories I do get calmer and feel better, I used to have a high protein diet and while it helped my candida it brought other problems in my life. I do pretty good with rice and potatoes , when I consume lots of meat/eggs I feel quite bad. Im a skinny person and cannot put on fat weight, only muscle weight...Id love to find a food that is calorie dense and nutritious any recommendations will be really appreciated!

"So with that, I'd highly advise you get a confirmation by a real medical doctor before you assume you might have parasites. Don't trust most alternative doctors that say you "probably" do and try to sell you their supplements. That's just my recommendation."

Definitely agree with the advice not to buy expensive supplements based on a vague "diagnosis" - been there, done that. This time, I do have confirmation through a stool test that I have parasites, hy. pylori to be exact. Plan on doing a lot more research here on curezone for healing protocols beyond the ones I'm doing.

I have to agree with you Wired that the 80/10/10 fruitarian/greens diet is especially drastic and will compromise many people...especially if chronically ill.

I tried fruitarian 80/10/10 for a while and my health nose-dived. I had been raw vegan before that so it wasn't like i went from a SAD diet and jumped to 80/10/10 RFV.

I have a close friend on it for 5+yrs who now has type 2 diabetes through it.
He started developing symptoms of high blood Sugar - which i am familiar with due to having 2 family members having type 1 and 2 diabetes.
I suggested he monitor his blood so he did and an hour after a fruit meal he was over 12 mmol/l. Way too high. Normal is around range of 5-8.
I suggested that maybe the extremely high consumption of so much glucose, fructose and sucrose was actually comprimising pancreatic function.
He didn't like hearing that. He said Doug says...yeah you know the rest - people cure EVERYTHING with this diet.
Over a year later he still has these symptoms of high blood sugar, and he won't change the diet to see if he can control his blood Sugar better...because some guy who calls himself a doctor when he's a chiropractor, say's this diet cures everything.

I'm sick of these 'cure all' claims. It illustrates the ignorance of the claimant. We are all very different with extremely different physiological functioning.

That fact needs to be recognised by anyone who claims that one method will cure everyone of all ailments.

All methods are worth trying, but if you feel worse than ever, move on, try something else - don't become a fanatic of some obscure person who has convinced you that diet WILL cure you.
Listen to your body, not some stranger!

If this message was in response to my last post, a few things:

I appreciate the non-aggressive manner in which you presented the above information, leaving the ultimate choice up to the user. Thank you. I don't know how to prove the validity of the information I shared about my own experience, standing in the unfortunate position of being a first-time poster here. Hopefully, that red flag will fade over time with my continued use of cure-zone this will change, as I have tons to post about in many of the other forums on this site.

Moving on... I think it's dangerous to make concrete blanket statements. Science, for instance, only moves forward when the status-quo is challenged by a new event or observation.

The two statements: "If you can eat carbs, you do not have Adrenal Fatigue, so probably best to post in another section.

If you can eat Sugar and fruit, you definitely do not have Adrenal Fatigue, so probably best to post in another section."

are not true, because here I am, a living example of someone who has adrenal fatigue and who can handle carbs. Even if 99.9% of those with AF can't eat carbs, I don't think it's wise to ostracize and censor the one or two people who can. Maybe there is a factor in my case worth looking at, that study could open a door to a deeper understanding of how nutrition, AF, or the whole complex set of health factors works.

And... I was formally diagnosed with AF after taking a cortisol saliva test through a lab.

Also, I am not claiming to have cured AF with 80/10/10. Far from it - I consider myself still in the thick of it. I DO NOT have all the answers. I have simply found a way to be able to eat carbs comfortably, and I feel like this information is worth sharing. *It is not a conclusion about anything, it is just an observation.*

I also feel it's valuable to share, and study, the experiences of those AF sufferers who had negative experiences with 80/10/10.... in the sake of learning, so we can all make our own informed decisions and get better! Isn't that why we're all here on curezone?

Also ***

Isn't the statement...

"The majority of 80/10/10s (check videos on youtube or meet one in person) have a mental disorder, ADHD or another clinical problem. Dont be one of those people."

a direct contradiction to the "challenge the message and not the messenger" idea?

The statement seems to come from its own personal or collective "crusade" against 80/10/10, and falls short of a real argument. For one, ADHD as a valid condition is a highly controversial diagnosis, and two, I believe it's a logical fallacy to try and win an argument by calling the opponent insane. I'm sure of it and will try to provide a link soon.

It's disturbing, as a newcomer to Curezone, to hear such a statement from a moderator, creating what feels like an unsafe and biased environment.