carbs should be coming from root vegetables, tubers, fruit, and other vegetables. sweet potatoes, winter squash, pumpkin, parsnips, rutabaga, turnips, peas, beans, lentils, taro, beets, carrots.

Can you describe exactly when you start feeling crappy after eating higher carb meal and also describe what symptoms you would feel?

North, thanks for the clarification on the store bought yogurt and kefir. I have made my own yogurt from store bought, so I know that the cultures are active and you're correct that pasteurization takes place BEFORE the cultures are added to convert the products to yogurt and/or kefir.

In order to use the NYA logo and make the claim "live and active cultures", the products have to contain a minimum of 100 million cultures per gram at the time of manufacture.

I am.

Hi fectoid , sorry only just seen your post.
I haven't shown my GP or my gastroenterologist the results from the CDSA yet although the doctor interpreting the results had this to say..

" There are two additional species of bacteria that I wouldn’t expect to see namely alpha haemolytic streptococcus and coagulase negative staphylococcus.

The treatment of the upper fermenting gut is an area where we have a lot more good questions than answers. I see this not as a battle but a war – i.e. it takes weeks and probably months of correct diet to get a result.

Essentially there is a four-pronged approach to treating the upper fermenting gut:

Firstly eat a diet of low fermentable substrate – see http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Fermentation_in_the_gut_and_CFS
and use transdermal supplements, which can be applied by spray (TD minerals), in order to bypass the gut. Where there is gut fermentation almost invariably there is hypoglycaemia and possibly vice versa – the two are certainly in close association with each other. The reason for this is that the fermenting gut produces alcohol and alcohol has a major destabilising effect on blood Sugar levels. Broadly speaking yeasts ferment monosaccharides and disaccharides (fructose, glucose, sucrose) whilst bacteria ferment disaccharides, polysaccharides and starches. The evolutionary correct diet is the zero-carb diet based on protein, fat and vegetable fibre and the evolutionary imperative to do this can be found at http://files.meetup.com/1463924/Homo%20Carnivorous-WAPF2.pdf
and detailed at
http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Stone_Age_Diet


Secondly - ensure good digestion of food – where there is a fermenting gut there is often hypochlorhydria and almost invariably malabsorption. Taylor suffered severe weight loss and micronutrient deficiencies following high dose Antibiotics which means that he may have been suffering from this condition for many years – see http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Hypochlorhydria_-_lack_of_stomach_acid_-_can_c...
and http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Pancreatic_exocrine_function


Thirdly – use antimicrobials directly to kill off the fermenting microbes. These may be yeast http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Yeast_problems_and_candida
or bacteria. We have no simple answers to the wrong bacteria in the gut, but suggestions are at http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Fermentation_in_the_gut_and_CFS.
Vitamin C is toxic to all microbes but the key point is the dose. I suggest 1 – 4g at mealtimes and adjust according to bowel tolerance. The idea is to take sufficient vitamin C to kill the millions of bacteria in the upper gut but not sufficient to kill the billions of microbes in the lower gut. So the idea is to increase the dose of vitamin C until there is slight diarrhoea and hold it at that level.

Fourthly eat fermented foods such as sauerkraut and Kefir (which can be grown on soya, coconut or rice milks) - the microbes within ferment out carbohydrates to short chain fatty acids. Furthermore these friendly microbes help to restore normal gut flora. "


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I don't agree with the zero carb diet and I was glad to see many people here didn't either. I eat quite a lot of carbs and do have reactions but there's no way I'm starving my body of them , not again. I do obviously avoid gluten and dairy though.

I've not started any supplements through the skin although this may be a good idea , something I'd need to discuss with my doctor also.

I've never tried kefir but if I do it will probably be water kefir I'll make myself.

Vitamin C I would take but having an ulcer anything that can stimulate acid is probably a bad idea in my situation. I think I do suffer from low stomach acid which could be due in part to the H pylori but I'll need to heal the lining of my stomach before attempting to raise stomach acid. If I'm lucky it may be H pylori causing the low stomach acid altogether and supplementing wont be necessary at all after hopeful eradication.

At the end of the letter the doctor also wrote the following

" It may be that this is sufficient to turn things round for Taylor. I am always rather loathe to use Antibiotics – as Pasteur famously said “it is not the microbe it is the environment”, i.e. if we can change the ambiance then the gut flora too would change. However some people do not see benefit until they use Antibiotics and in this case we need something that is effective against anaerobes – possibly Metronidazole 400mg tds or possibly Rifaxamin (a gut only antibiotic) 400mg tds for two weeks and then a maintenance dose of 200-400mg daily in the longer term to, as I call it, keep the gut tidy. What would be most helpful for monitoring all this will be Taylor’s actual symptoms. "


I'm not sure what I think of this to be honest but I would have a very hard time taking antibitoics again.

My gastoenterologist really wants me to take the triply therapy for my H pylori insisting that tetracycline ( the drug that seemed to trigger most of my problems ) is a very powerful and different Antibiotic when compared to this treatment.

For now I'm concentrating on the H pylori and going from there.

Yeah , I'm in the UK mate.
I went to see my gastroenterologist with a private appointment and after explaining everything understanding that I couldn't afford to have any procedures privately he put me on his NHS list and had a small bowel enteroscopy performed with biopsies of both my intestines and stomach lining within a month. That found H pylori and a stomach ulcer which was something I'd have never even considered otherwise. It was well worth it.

I haven't a clue how things will work in Wales to be honest mate but it may be worth just going to see a gastroenterologist privately ( cost me about £100.00 ) and explain absolutely everything. I found quite a good doctor who was open minded to the possibility of bacteria and parasites being a big problem so you could be surprised. If you're interested in finding someone who specifically works with parasites and bacteria a good gastroenterologist may also be able to point you in the right direction. It's a start right ?.

My advice would be to have a look online for some gastroenterologists in your area you could book a consultation with, get a proper doctor on the case and if he mentions something you don't agree with just explain your concerns. I'm not sure if you're like myself but for many years I listened to what doctors were saying but was too scared to put them in their place when they were talking absolute crap lol , since saying exactly what I've thought I've been pleasantly surprised with my gastroenterologist who's helped me a lot. The same can't be said for my GP though !.

It's good to hear you're reintroducing some carbs also. Don't be afraid of carbs , I was for a long while also. If you've been on this diet for four months and your results have come back worse and your still not feeling any better it seems clear to me that it isn't working !. Nearly half a year , you should have some results by now I think. Carbs fuel the body and I've never understood the concept of starving your body to apparently heal it. Just have a look now at how controversial the average candida diet it becoming !.

I'd recommend sweet potato as a carb to definitely try to eat , they're really good for you and generally easy to digest by most people. It's probably my favorite food now. Forget what you read online about what's good for you in your situation because then ten minutes later you can read the exact opposite on another website and at the end of the day everyone is different and attempting everything that's apparently the correct diet and treatment doesn't seem to be correct to me !.

I really want to know what could have triggered all of this for you though , I know for myself I took years of antibitoics for a prostate issue and was taking acid blockers with pain relief to protect my stomach lining , all of these medications combined left me susceptible to foreign bacteria and also killed off a lot of my friendly bacteria.

Knowing that I feel comfortable in then searching for treatment but in your case it seems a little harder to figure out. Have a good think about what you think one of the direct causes could be , I find it odd that a young guy like yourself could have all of this wrong with him.


Oh and mate , I know how you feel with the weight loss. I look like a skeleton , it's embarrassing but remember that it's just another symptom , I'm sure we'll get there in the end. We're too in the know not too lol. :)

Hang in there mate.

My idea of prebiotics may be different - colostrum I suppose couild be classified http://www.secrets-of-longevity-in-humans.com/colostrum-benefits.html
and fiber serves as a vehicle for the probiotics. But in the original poster's case the primary problem is the parasitic infection which supercedes everything else.

These infections alter bowel ecology quite dramactically and shift immune response - they are the top-feeders in the gut.