These messages were posted into the ”Gallstones & Gallbladder Attack Cures and Natural Remedies Research Group” on facebook. Alexandra Jun 12 2022 · · I have done my 7th flush tonight (Hulda Clarke protocol) Had a couple of mild attacks after a 2 months pause and decided to do it. I have adjusted the protocol and find it way more friendly to carry out. I mix epsoms with 70% apple juice 30% water, and mix oil and grapefruit juice really well in a glass jar with lid and drink it with closed nose fast. Picture in comments Alexandra Sept 15 2022 THIS ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Here I am 12 years later reading this and I am thanking you RAY!!! I am going to go get me 4 avocados right now. I truly cannot thank yo enough. And yes! You posted in the correct forum God I am so thankful. I’ve prayed all day! I know my liver is needing help as well as my lymphatic system. I could kiss you Ray. (Spud, you can go on, obviously a troll!)   [End]
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I sure agree with you. The Greeks, Lebanese, etc. may have health issues caused by excessive olive oil consumption, but ”soap stones” are not one of them.   [End]
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Cholecystectomy is NOT the only way to get rid of gallstones. TO do so ciomplicate dyour life and health more. I have proven that you can melt away the gallstones in the gallbladder, I have my before and after radiolody that proves my statrmrnt after having at least 3 prvious images done in different years but I never succumed to the knife. Verrrry tempted though with all the pain which is why it is importnant to assume you have some before you get the pain. with serious pain meds on hand you won;’t be ab;le to ride out the pain once it starts. I’ve had the pain last more than a week w ...
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Hello, I see this thread is quiet old but Iv just discovered pulverexx protocol and have a question about it. Iv asked the company thru email and Facebook messenger but they have not replied. So my question is does pulverexx contain caffeine (or anything with a similar effect)?? My body has very low tolerance to caffeine, a can of energy drink saw me in the emergency room! If anyone has the answer to this that would be so helpful and any other feedback on this pill as I’m really wanting to try it to remove the gallstone I have. Thanks 🙂   [End]
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Not surprised that you do not make sense out of the sensible. The gray stones are the ones that need to be eliminated before they cause real problems. Who care about the green stones that you want to ramble on about :^)   [End]
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Sorry can someone translate nonsense logic for me? My nonsense logic is a bit rusty at the moment. The point I made was about the large cholesterol stones. No one is debating that smaller (assuming you mean calcified or cysteine) stones can pass, whether they are embedded in the cholesterol stones or wearing pink fluffy ostrich feathers, it’s a non-starter issue. You are free to debate this with yourself though, have at it. I’m glad you agree with a statement I never made about overdoing things. How is the weather in nonsense-logic land today?   [End]
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While you are partially right, you are not looking hard enough or deep enough. What you are missing is the very small percentage of what are genuine gall stones that lay hidden among or even inside of the green stones. These are usually smaller grayish looking stones and are the ones that will eventually cause problems if not already doing so. I do agree that things can be over done and that sometimes, a rest from the routine can be beneficial. But the best part of this is the cholesterol that is being removed, but only if your cholesterol is too high.   [End]
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These ”stones” are very often (at least 70-90% of time) just bile that precipitated into cholesterol (hard bile) and it most likely happened during the liver flush. As your intestines were very clean, cleaned by Epsom Salt taken before the oil, the only thing you have mixing with bile are oil and digestive juices. I do not know how it happen, but I assume that digestive juices from the stomach cause bile to turn into cholesterol. That is the reason why some people keep expelling those stones even if they are doing Liver Flushes every single day, day after day. ANd, another probl ...
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You say you contacted Andreas Moritz, then he would have confirmed you should have had colonic irrigation just prior to and immediately following the day of the Liver Flush. In which case you did not follow the Liver Flush protocol and this MAY have been the problem. The Liver Flush is hard core and Andrea Moritz has written a whole book dedicated to it. He describes in detail when to do the flush and how to do the flush. If you did the thing half heartedly then you shouldn’t condemn the Flush per se; the problem my friend is with you not following the instructions correctly and doing ...
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Yes but how much of each herb to use is the question?   [End]
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So do you still drink apple juice leading up to this flush or are just doing it with Grapefruit juice and Almond Oil with Magnesium Citrate? I’ve never been a fan of Epson Salts. Last time I used Pink Himalayan sea salt instead, with Lemon juice and avocado oil. Got rid of my symptoms for over a year after just one flush. Now they are back with a vengeance it seems, so looking to do several, easy ones like you seemed to have come across doing. Already bought Magnesium Citrate and have Avocado oil so waiting just to see if you have used apple juice like on other websites also leading ...
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Glad all worked out for you! It’s been 11 years since your post! How are you now feeling & how restricted is your diet? Can you eat what you like now? I was hospitalized overnite for acute cholecystitis 2 mos ago. The surgeon never made it in to see me until the next day due to having to do emergency surgery at same time so I didn’t see him until the next am & my attack was over by then, thank goodness. (I endured 14 hrs of pain before going to ER, so total time of attack was 28 hrs). The ER resident said I’d be admitted for ”at least” 2 nites, but I’m sure I got out earlier as he didn’t ...
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Can anyone help me? I’m looking for a health practitioner here in Maryland -- Montgomery County -- to help me do a liver flush for candidiasis, someone who follows Dr. Andreas Moritz. If you know of any type of health practitioner here in Maryland where I am, or even in D.C., let me know. I want to do a liver cleanse/flush under the guidance of someone who knows what they’re doing and is competent. Thanks.   [End]
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If for argument sake these green waxy balls had to form in your intestines rather than come from the gallbladder and liver, then it could more likely be a curdling reaction like when you make tofu because magnesium ( Epsom Salts ) is (one of the things) used to make soya milk curdle. So, it could be curdling that happened in the bowel, not a ”soap-making reaction”. I’m not a Scientist so don’t go off at me if I’m wrong. It’s just a theory. ----------------- Yes, it’s just a theory. I did many flushes without any salts like Epsom, and result is still the same: Green stones.   [End]
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Hello all, I posted this in altmed/parasites but nobody responded - going to try here. I’m on month 3 of cleansing and despite repeated enemas (about once every 2 weeks) and upping the dosage of my wormwood/ Black-Walnut /clove complex tinctures, I am not expelling worms. I saw one large roundworm during month one and that was pretty much it. I have never used a zapper and would be pretty reluctant to do so unless I worked with a professional. At night, I feel the worms moving and twitching in place under muscle tissue and around the liver area (I think). I believe I have a dissemina ...
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I must verify this; I have been using Pulverexx for all my flushes now since 2013 and I never have a bad flush. I flush about 2 or 3 times a year, and with the Pulverexx herbs I always release a ton of stones, and I always feel better after the flush, whereas before I would have some flushes that would make me feel worse.   [End]
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wow, too many x’s is not a good principal to for an opinion on!   [End]
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Ive been posting the link to that North American Primary Care Research Group study where ever I can. I remember Telman writing about another research group who did a published study I think.. I should have searched for it right when I read it.. We need compiled proof like this to discredit qwackwatch and all the neigh sayers. Anyone know? Telman?   [End]
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Cascara sagrada is a herbal laxative. It stimulates peristalsis of the large intestine. It can be habit forming though so I never use it. Perhaps the doctor used it in this study instead of epsom salts, I’m not sure, I’ve never seen it as part of any liver flush protocol. monroe   [End]
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What is the Cascara Sagrada used for? Never heard of it   [End]
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Ah, Paraboy, I’m sure there are more than enough people who will continue to argue against anything out of the realm of conventional medicine, they will argue it’s only one study and will question its veracity and the credibility of R.L. Garrison. I’m quite confident the liver flush debate forum will continue indefinitely. monroe   [End]
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Here is a testimonial with pictures of a stone almost the size of a golf ball. Look at flush number 21. http://www.drclark.net/en/documented-testimonials/liver-cleanse-documented-testimonials/970-results-of-21-liver-cleanses [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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Awesome find.   [End]
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Check this out: In a small study presented at the 1997 meeting of the North American Primary Care Research Group and subsequently described in American Family Physician, Richard L. Garrison, MD, studied the effect of a “traditional home remedy for inducing gallstone expulsion using lemon juice, olive oil, cascara sagrada and garlic/castile enemas” in 6 patients with symptomatic gallstones which had been confirmed by ultrasound. (16) An ultrasound after the procedure assessed clearing of stones. Alter completing the liver flush, five of six patients were asymptomatic for periods ranging ...
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I googled liver flukes today and several of the pictures looked like what is in your picture. monroe   [End]
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Hi Amber, The good news is that if it did come from you, it’s out! However, you still want to cleanse for parasites. I did a parasite cleanse a few years ago that seemed to be effective. I filled gel capsules with castor oil and froze them and took them internally. I remember feeling something really weird moving around inside after that. I think I did castor oil packs too, with the instructions according to Edgar Cayce. A few days later I had a phone appointment with someone who does Emotion Code work (not sure if I believe in it). However, he did some kind of reading on me and ...
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Hello everyone First off, a couple months ago I noticed a weird thing in my stool so I saved it and took it to the clinic near my university and he told me it just looked like a plant fiber and not to worry. Well I still was finding weird things so when I went back to my home town I saw my nurse practitioner and she put me on ivermectin while I was waiting my stool results. They came back negative so I tried to put it off in my mind that it was all in my head. A month or so has passed and I was taking a bath in Epsom salts because my neck has been hurting. When I got out of the bath I no ...
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I have noticed some improvements, less irritation but not a complete fix yet I am going to keep going, done 9 so far and getting lots of stones good luck   [End]
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same man..ive done 7 cleanses didnt improved a bit on sight..i have for 6 years already eye floaters,light sensitivity heavy one and irritability..didnt improved a shit..im doing epsom salts and o.oil + grapefruit cleanse..but my skin improved greatly not so dry anymore a lot less dandruff   [End]
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once again you need schooling homey. there are many people on cz who did liver flushes who had their gallbladders removed. many successes were reported in clearing out their livers. i will set up a kickstarter fund for your education. what is the difference between chocolate and soap?   [End]
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case in point on the label of nature’s way dandelion root Warnings Caution: Pregnant or lactating women should consult a healthcare professional before use. Do not use if you have stomach or duodenal ulcers, acute gall bladder inflammation, gall stones, or bile duct blockage. Keep out of reach of children. ACUTE GALL BLADDER inflammation, GALL STONES, or BILE DUCT BLOCKAGE... Why? Because christopher’s clan knows exactly what can happen when you push on a blockage in the wrong way. It’s a good warning. And then you come along with your half-ass half-truths and you wil ...
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It was liquid lecithin and not granules. The lecithin in water did not look like this it was smooth and milky. You don’t need base to saponify, you just need an emulsifier. no you need a base A strong base can create an emulsifier out of oil emulsification and saponification are completely different animals. do you know the difference between chocolate and soap. chocolate is an emulsification, soap is saponified oil. you need to go back to school homey. but you don’t need to create an emulsifier because bile already is one. Lecithin is the closest thing to bile there is. no ...
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And BTW people with no gallbladder should not take oil at all as the gallbladder is needed to emulsify liquid oil or fat. If your gallbladder is removed there should be no visible oil in food you eat. Mixing oil into soluble fiber like oats or beans or an emulsifier like lecithin or choline is ok though.   [End]
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It was liquid lecithin and not granules. The lecithin in water did not look like this it was smooth and milky. You don’t need base to saponify, you just need an emulsifier. A strong base can create an emulsifier out of oil but you don’t need to create an emulsifier because bile already is one. Lecithin is the closest thing to bile there is. Also the chyme is basic once it leaves the stomach because it is neutralized by bicarbonate from the pancreas. But obviously you have never taken the time to learn biology. And if you took advanced biology/physiology you would know the stomach d ...
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When you hydrate lecithin granules they do look exactly like liver sludge on their own, no need for adding oil or epsom salts. This has been gone over a billion times. People who don’t understand basic chemistry keep trying to use the ’some sort of chemical reaction’ argument for disproving the liver flush’s validity. There are no alkali solutions in the basic ingredients, and those are what is needed to saponify oil. The stomach secretes hydrochloric acid, not alkali, and the small intestine is not able to release anything near the alkalinity of lye, which is what is used in soap and c ...
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I took all the common ingredients for a hulda clark liver flush including olive oil, epsom salt, and citric acid. I added lecithin to simulate bile and cooked it around and strained it and what I got looks a lot like supposed ”liver gunk”. While this test did not give stones, so if you get bile stones out they are real, but any soft clumps can be explained just from the ingredients reacting together. Also citric acid is not a gall bladder stimulant from what I can find, but bitter herbs are so using andrographis or longjack would be better. See the full article: http://www.naturehacke ...
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Dear Flaminghen: A gallbladder can absolutely be diseased, and if you’re having attacks... well then, it’s up to you if you’d like to forego surgery and live with the excruciating pain. I had people (spiritual/psychic/natural healer-type) telling me, ”you created the gallstones, you can get rid of them...with diet...you don’t need surgery.” Ummm...yeahhh. I’d like to tell you right now, that is a crock of BS. I was terrified that something would go wrong in the surgery & it might end up causing me more problems, but I managed the fear and went through with the surgery. To i ...
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(NaturalNews) In what is undoubtedly one of the most astonishing herbal cures story of the decade, a natural molecule from licorice root extract -- ”glycyrrhizin” -- has been repeatedly and scientifically shown to block nearly all liver damage from both alcohol consumption and over-the-counter Tylenol pills (acetaminophen). Here I’ve collected PDFs of seven scientific studies that show astonishing ”hepatoprotective” effects (meaning it protects the liver) from the cellular damage caused by alcohol and Tylenol. It also happens to exhibit strong anti-viral, anti-tumor and anti-infl ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Please participate in the Liver Flush Survey:   [End]
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I agreed that some diagnosis can be inaccurate. Sorry that was a bad experience for you but, I have passed thousands of parasites and had a massive infection from hookworm, fluke, roundworm and tapeworm - YES they were identifiable by the human eye in the bowl. Beyond disgusting. I have done BOTH natural and ANTIBIOTIC treatment. BOTH were helpful if you truly have an infection you can use the natural protocol and check or save them from the bowl since MOST TESTING is inaccurate in the U.S. due to the outlaw of DNA stool testing and ONLY using GROWTH testing which does not consistently w ...
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I passed at least 400 and they looked like that - also tan and small like seeds and some larger that looked like pebbles the size of a pea.   [End]
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Have liver gallbladder flushes improved your vision/eyes? Ive done 3 so far, seen some improvements, but also aggravated some of my symptoms greatly - light sensitivity and irritation would appreciate hearing some success stories   [End]
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I have been following the debate about whether stones produced from the Liver Flush are actually gallstones/liverstones. I have done many flushes over the years but still have many large (21mm) stones in my gallbladder identified by ultrasound. I read where someone said if these stones were heated they would become oil..well I tried and these are my results..Sorry not getting it quite right with the images but I think you get the picture 1st- the larger stones I passed which I used for this experiment http://curezone.com/upload/Liver_Flush/tn-tmp_20151204_1448481343834084.jpg Then what ...
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If liver stones do not exist, explain why this cirrhosis of the liver which was cleaned with a solvent clearly shows hundreds of liver stones stuck in it.   [End]
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There could very well be flukes stuck in the gall bladder or bile ducts. Do u have a tens unit? U cld get it to move out of the ducts with an electrotherapy tens 7000 unit that sells for arnd $25 online. A zapper may also move it. Is she having unusual amounts of mucas and burning in her mouth? For some reason most with parasites have acid reflux too. I take alot of tums with calcium.   [End]
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When doing the liver flushes with epsom salt, olive oil and any type of citrus, there will always be in the bowel movement saponified oil ’stones” that many think are actual gallstones, but when ever we have had them analyzed in the lab, they are not composed of calcium or cholesterol, but primarily are oil that has congealed as a result of the supposed ’liver flush’. Physiologically, the epsom salt never travels up the biliary tube, then up to the gallbladder, then up to the liver. Let me emphasize, those green little objects are congealed olive oil as a result of the bile and the ...
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So Hveragerthi, What would you have to say about the above report by Singapore. Thanks.   [End]
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This is my 3rd attempt at posting this. So if it has popped up & I am repeating my story please forgive. I Have been doing the cleanses with my 11 now 12 year old daughter since June last year. She did about 3 successful ones and in one of hers she only got something I am now suspect was fluke after looking at some of the photos of flukes on this forum. At the time I thought it was some long traslucent squiggly tailed thing, perhaps a gall stone that got caught in hairy food fibres? We stopped flushing her because she wasn’t having any successful flushes anymore. Her last 4 we got ...
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Medicine is a con... And I’m a doctor. All these referrals, tests and drugs. For some countries, it’s the only industry they have....   [End]
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Ive just done my first flush and this morning produced very few stones however there were some there (23 -30 ish). Green soft ones, black ones and pale cream ones which were hard and contained a much darker substance inside them. Any idea what these pale hard ones are with the black centre? Any idea what the black ones are? Also my pain is on my left side???? Does anyone else have pain on the left. Thank you for your support Background About 4 weeks ago I picked up Lymes disease and within days went down with pain in L side and back. I assumed kidney st ...
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The gallbladder may not be big enough, but the liver is huge and cable of expanding to hold many lovely green treats...   [End]
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That’s a really great story! I did my first one now just about a month ago (I’m 34) and really didn’t notice any drastic improvement in anything, but I’d like to think I’m pretty healthy, not overweight, etc. But I still plan to do another one starting next week.. Once a month really isn’t bad. I was able to handle it just fine and I figure it can only help me.   [End]
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Hello, Here is the link: http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=180601 It sounds a bit crazy, but I’ve looked up testimonials and people say it works. I have no idea if a diet like the one you mentioned will make it harder for him, but it can’t be good. The good thing about Tsetsi’s flush is that it doesn’t seem to make people feel sick, but many people still flush out stones. I just started it today and it seems to be doing something, but no stones that I know of yet. Hope it helps, monroe   [End]
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”Tsetsi’s gentler Liver Flush method” What is that about? Do you have a link? My father is prediabetic, lives on bagels, pasta, pizza, grilled cheese, coffee, little to no fruits or veggies.   [End]
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If your father is afraid to do a liver flush, maybe you could try him on Tsetsi’s gentler liver flush method? That’s what I am trying now, as in today. I don’t think any stones have passed but a lot of weird stuff is coming out and I’m feeling okay, pretty well actually. I have a feeling it’s working, though.   [End]
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I tried some herbal products from Go7Herbal they seem to work well. Has anyone else tried Go7Herbal or seen their youtube videos?   [End]
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I’m scared to hear that you had much pain in your first flush as tomorrow is my 6th day of prep for my first Andreas Moritz flush. I hope I don’t have any pain. I’ve followed everything he said, except for the colonic, I am using Colosan instead....   [End]
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Thank you for the post. I concur that coffee enema is simple and useful in the liver flush protocol. Just 2 TLS. in the second enema and no need to drink the Epsom salt. And one more thing is the Castor oil pack. Castor oil pack comes small and handy. But make sure to take off the Castor oil pack while holding the coffee, since coffee need to be held at least 10-15 minutes, using the pack defies the purpose. The pack completes the flush process like the icing on the cake - for a lack of better words. I think the pack offers some needed solace to the poor aching liver. ...
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Apple juice softens stones and sometimes melts them away. Per Hulda Clark cleanse!   [End]
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Yea, it can take several failed attempts just to loosen up the material to prepare it for release, I have completed over 70 flushes, and there were times where I would flush ten times in a row and not yield one stone, and then the next flush yielded 100 massive one. The stones sit in the liver for so long that they become ingrained into the liver tissue, so it can take several pushes to loosen them up to come out. If you don’t yield anything with the coffee enema itself, try a coffee enema followed with an oil flush.   [End]
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Good to hear. I did the flush with olive oil, never felt so sick and nauseous in my life, and didn’t pass a single stone. I will try the coffee enema route.   [End]
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Wow.. I just read the ”are you stoned” procedure. It’s radically different (and much faster) than Moritz’ method. Moritz’ has you prep for 5.5 days before doing the actual cleanse. Have you done Moritz’ cleanse as well? I’m a little scared too but I’m giving it a go, on the second day of prep now...   [End]
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Thanks for posting this. I just read Andreas’ book and am on the second day of preparation (according to his instructions in the book) for my very first cleanse (I’m 34) Another place where you can go and read people’s experiences is on the reviews at amazon.com   [End]
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Do you happen to have a link to that forum? My father was just diagnosed with gallstones and they’re telling him surgery. I just bought and read Andreas Moritz’s book cover to cover and I’m starting the cleanse this week to try it out mostly for him, but I’m sure I need it too.   [End]
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A few weeks back on a prayer forum someone asked for prayer about gall bladder issues. I sent him a PM telling him about liver flushes and how they had helped me expel over 2000 stones, with other information. I really didn’t expect to hear back from him, and did not. I sent the PM just in case it might help him, though, or maybe a family member some day who got the info 2nd hand. Now there is a call for prayer on the forum for his family because he died as the result of gall bladder surgery. So sad.   [End]
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Gold Coin Grass in tincture form is the best option for attempting that, but it will take years and years to disintegrate the material to be honest. Flushing is extremely safe and effective - I have carried out over 70 flushes and never had a single problem. I use a combination of crushing and softening medicines as well as the flush itself.   [End]
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- ”I have had success with the olive oil flush procedure, but I have found that by clearing out the colon and doing a coffee enema alone yields more stones and material.” -- Rob - ”I have passed ”tomato seed” light tan stones with only a coffee enema. My Mom has passed 30-40 pea-sized green stones using only the enema. She was having active GB attacks / abdominal distension and a lot of pain when she did them.” --Curezone Member - ”The green stones are definitely gallstones. How do I know this? Because I’ve passed them myself when I’ve eaten NO olive oil. I’ve seen plenty of bile in ...
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I am a colon therapist. I am also health educator guide. You are welcome to check out my background at www.dancingcells.com I had a hearing detox, juice fasting, raw food spa. I also have been in private practice for over 25 years. Something to consider. Inorder for the colon to function efficiently it needs fiber. Enough fiber to keep the metabolism moving. Most people think fruits and vegetables contain plenty of fiber. Not enough to keep the bowels full enough to let the nerve endings at the anus know that we are full open up and release. Where you have the pain is a possible con ...
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You might want to learn how to do muscle-testing. It can answer those kind of health questions very well--true, there are only yes/no answers, but I’ve found there are varying degrees of resistance which indicate to me less strong yeses or noes, aka---kinda, not likely and such, but although you may still need to do research, you can ask your body if this or that is the problem and get an answer right away. It’s a bit trickier when there is more than one issue--but that’s where learning the various degrees of resistance to the answers comes in. If you ask is my problem caused by parasites ...
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So I’m wondering if these stones are because of the mixture of olive oil and lemon juice then why is it that after you do it multiple times your body doesn’t create these stones any more and there’s no more stones after multiple flushes.   [End]
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why is that?   [End]
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