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I realize the original post is 7 years old, but I’m thinking parasites.   [End]
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Hello, Renew Life is pretty good at answering. Try Lynn@renewlife.ca. Of course that’s their Canadian location and they say their products are formulated differently for Canadian regulations than for the US. I never did get an answer about the five day break (I don’t think I asked Renew Life, just on here) but I kept up with the other stuff during the five days. I think the ozonated oil is making a difference, though. I haven’t been taking it every day. I tried ozonated water once or twice, just in tiny amounts, and I’ve ozonated olive oil and jojoba oil. I used the ozonated olive ...
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I’m not sure about the weight loss because I gained weight during parasite cleansing. I’m losing a bit as a do liver flushes, but that is due to not eating for a day or two during the flushes. I also started some herbals for thyroid because I have symptoms of low thyroid. I just bought a Portazone ozonator and I ozonated jojoba oil for a couple of 30 minute periods and that cleared my skin overnight. From what I am learning, however, ozone is not something to be messed with and probably shouldn’t be a long term solution. You can also buy ozonated oil that has been ozonated for l ...
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Hi there, From the six weeks or so I have been on here every day, I have learned enough to say it does sound like you both have parasites and that testing is almost pointless. You might as well just start treating yourself, your husband, and I’d treat your dog as well. There is lots of info on here, just start reading some back threads, Mizmac has some great information, but really, almost all of it is really good. If you have specific questions, I can try to answer them and I’m sure others will jump in, too. monroe   [End]
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I don’t think you’re supposed to take essential oils internally if that’s what you’re thinking of doing. monroe   [End]
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I just found this post in my collection: ”Pamela Viktoria I agree! Don’t chase them. I’ve passed many parasites during my detox. I found the best methods are: -salt flushes.EVERYTHING comes out, including critters. -colonics with a bit of hydrogen peroxide -right around day 5 of a water fast, I sometimes pass them. They seem to starve around that time.” monroe Word of advice: If you do a salt flush, make sure your bowels are moving and unobstructed. I read about a terrible experience someone had on here when their bowels were obstructed and the salt water was stuck. ...
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Hello again, I haven`t found that post I mentioned - I believe it may have been about pinworms so I`m not sure how relevant that is to threadworms and round worms - but here is another post that might help: ”Cimber38 Date: 7/20/2015 5:42:34 PM The wormwood and Black-Walnut mixture cause them to go bananas. They will try to escape and drive you nuts. You have to dose pyrantel by weight and take it every days for a week then again for a few days the next week. and take a laxitive after it you want to paralyze them and get them out. use enemas. If you take soemthing that kills them ...
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Morning! It sounds like you are heaping a lot of guilt on yourself, but you could have picked them up anywhere. Depending on our physical health, some of us must be more hospitable hosts for parasites, which could be why you’re having more of a problem than your bf. I initially felt badly, but my bf lived in Mexico and ate local food, so he could have given them to me. However, I have visited there too as well as other tropical places and could have picked them up anywhere. I’ve also fed my dogs raw meat for years and could have gotten them from the dogs. My bf thinks my liver fl ...
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Hello! I ordered activated H2 as well but I don’t know when to take it so I haven’t. I’m taking a lot right now but I should start taking that. You do not have to freeze bromelain - it’s an enzyme and you want that to go systemically. I’m taking niacin with my enzymes (Zymactive and okra pepsin) and taking them on an empty stomach in the hopes they will get the parasites that scattered. I was horrified when I began feeling and seeing parasites. I was feeling sick and weak from the herbs and die off and freaked out because I could feel things moving. I couldn’t tell anyone, eve ...
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I’m guessing that ozone must work in a similar manner as other things that kill bacteria such as garlic or stomach acids. Some clever researchers set up a model of the human gastrointestinal system and put yogurt through it. The stomach acids appeared to kill some of the good bacteria in the yogurt, but later on in the digestive system, it came back to life. Someone else tested garlic on a variety of bacterial foods and substances like yogurt and they said garlic kills everything, but I would imagine, as Hveragerthi writes, enough of the good bacteria survive (and no doubt some bad, ...
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I just bought a Portazone and have been reading about things to do with ozonated water. I was just going to use it for Clark’s mop up program - the ozonated olive oil - but apparently ozonated water can be used in enemas and will kill parasites. There is a post on CZ about that by Desperadonyc5 ”I used ozonated water in my enema yesterday and after a couple of hours saw what looked liked parasites in my stool. They were anywhere from 6 inches to 1.5 feet long. They were opague with a black line running along the inside. Will continue with 03 enemas twice per week and the day after a liv ...
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I forgot to add I’ve been taking systemic proteolytic enzymes (Zymactive by Natural Factors) and I’ve recently added okra pepsin. I take niacin with them and the COQ10 to hopefully get the scatterers. I think it did because I don’t feel anything anymore. monroe   [End]
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What is in your black walnut complex? From what I have read it has to have wormwood and cloves to get the eggs. I took Paragone (Renew Life) plus a bunch of other things like frozen castor oil and cod liver oil caps, I bought extra black walnut, wormwood and cloves, I’m doing Clark’s mop up but did it for a couple of weeks without the ozonated olive oil and now that I have an ozonator, I’m still not sure I want to consume that much ozonated olive oil, plus I feel like the l-cysteine and COQ10 really helped. I’ve also been drinking copious amounts of Dr. Axe’s ACV tonic before meals, som ...
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Hello flushers (and wanna be flushers), I’m doing my sixth flush today. Just lots of teeny green stones. I have discovered something about magnesium citrate. If you put the 5 scoops in water and let it sit for a while, it loses its nastiness. Now it might also lose its flushing power, so someone correct me if I shouldn’t be doing this, but it was soooo much easier to get down. Magnesium citrate in huge doses is aversive. Regarding liver flushes, I read some interesting information: That being said, if you are disappointed in your flush because you have not released anything at ...
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Cascara sagrada is a herbal laxative. It stimulates peristalsis of the large intestine. It can be habit forming though so I never use it. Perhaps the doctor used it in this study instead of epsom salts, I’m not sure, I’ve never seen it as part of any liver flush protocol. monroe   [End]
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I’m not overly familiar with where this should be posted so if it should go somewhere else, let me know: ) Check this out: In a small study presented at the 1997 meeting of the North American Primary Care Research Group and subsequently described in American Family Physician, Richard L. Garrison, MD, studied the effect of a “traditional home remedy for inducing gallstone expulsion using lemon juice, olive oil, cascara sagrada and garlic/castile enemas” in 6 patients with symptomatic Gallstones which had been confirmed by ultrasound. (16) An ultrasound after the procedure assessed cle ...
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Ah, Paraboy, I’m sure there are more than enough people who will continue to argue against anything out of the realm of conventional medicine, they will argue it’s only one study and will question its veracity and the credibility of R.L. Garrison. I’m quite confident the liver flush debate forum will continue indefinitely. monroe   [End]
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I know this is a really old post but perhaps this information will be helpful. Someone else on here mentioned he had very strong cravings for fat and he ate four avocado and the next morning passed stones. I wonder if those cravings are linked to the body’s need to purge stones? monroe   [End]
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Check this out: In a small study presented at the 1997 meeting of the North American Primary Care Research Group and subsequently described in American Family Physician, Richard L. Garrison, MD, studied the effect of a “traditional home remedy for inducing gallstone expulsion using lemon juice, olive oil, cascara sagrada and garlic/castile enemas” in 6 patients with symptomatic gallstones which had been confirmed by ultrasound. (16) An ultrasound after the procedure assessed clearing of stones. Alter completing the liver flush, five of six patients were asymptomatic for periods ranging ...
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Since I had the best results the first time I liver flushed, I am trying to replicate what I did that time (with the exception that I started my first flush at 7 am). I tried to fast yesterday and almost did with just fruit but I got so hungry I had a bit of oatmeal. I don’t think I fasted before my first flush though and it was still super successful. When I checked the moon phase link that Marturo posted for me, yesterday would have been the perfect day for a fast and today being a new moon, I think should be good for a LF. https://stardate.org/nightsky I got up at 5 this mor ...
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Thank you Cimber, but I’m taking niacin to act as a vasodilator that helps improve blood flow and hopefully send the supplements out further to get parasites that have spread, therefore niacin is what is required for that and I’ll have to put up with the burning. Help is always appreciated though! monroe   [End]
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I wonder if electrolytes and minerals would help you. I’m new to liver flushing too but from what I’ve read, these can need to be replenished. Also, are you taking probiotics? I make kefir and drink that every day. monroe   [End]
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I agree with Steve with the bentonite or activated charcoal (I really find charcoal effective). You could also take a formulation to support the liver. I was experiencing intense stiffness and pain in my shoulder and neck and just around the time I started my first liver flush, it went away, almost before, but I had prefaced my first liver flush by taking Renew Life Liver Cleanse for ten days prior (it’s a 30 day cleanse and all you do is take capsules in the morning and evening), so I kind of think that had something to do with the alleviation of the stiffness and soreness along with s ...
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Here are some gentle liver flush for those of you out there looking for one: A gentle flush like the one Dr Dennis helped Plschuckle formulate: Plzchuckle’s Hot Lemonade Flush: week 1: Dewormer - to start killing parasite Kidney Cleanser for the stone-buster qualities Liver/Gallbladder Balance for liver support week 2: continue week 1 formulas add: morning drink on empty stomach: 1 mug of hot distilled water 2 or 3 tablespoons of fresh squeezed lemon juice 1-2 tablespoon sorghum molasses (can use maple syrup) 60 drops of liquid cayenne (1/4 t ...
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Do you mean you put baking soda into your enemas? monroe   [End]
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Enemas are a good idea as suggested, but a warm water enema should be enough, you do not have to do a Fleet enema. If you are going to do them regularly, I would suggest buying a stainless steel enema bucket to make your life easier. I keep Renew Life Cleansemore on hand for occasional constipation. For me, one seems to be be too much so I`ll open a capsule and take half. It is horrid tasting but it works, and of course you can always just leave the capsules whole. It contains triphala and magnesium but no senna or cascara sagrada, the latter two can be habit forming. In my most rec ...
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Since I started the Renew Life Liver Cleanse and began liver flushing, I have not experienced the neck and shoulder stiffness. I have also noticed that breathing through my nose seems much clearer, although I did not notice that it was poor before, only that it seems much easier to breathe through my nose. I`m having issues with my lungs and asthma though, not sure why. That acts up once in a while. monroe   [End]
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Hi Steve, could you elaborate on the differences you found, especially in release of toxins, between regular CEs and CEs with salt? Did you find more stuff was released? Did you just feel better after the CEs with salt than without? Thank you in advance, monroe   [End]
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I was also thinking about what someone told me about clay coloured stools. My ex husband had this problem and someone said it was his gallbladder. I just looked it up: Pale or clay-colored stools are not normal. If your stools are pale or clay-colored, you may have a problem with the drainage of your biliary system, which is comprised of your gallbladder, liver, and pancreas. Bile salts are released into your stools by your liver, giving the stools a brown color. Pale or Clay-Colored Stools: Causes & Diagnosis - Healthline www.healthline.com/symptom/pale-stools Of course, if you in ...
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I didn’t get any stones or any evidence of anything green on the fourth flush I just did either. It could be because I didn’t wait long enough between liver flushes or because I was taking chanca piedra for a couple of weeks before my third cleanse (which seemed to break up the stones a lot), or, I wonder, if I just don’t have stones left? I think that would be doubtful though as the stones I saw on my first flush didn’t look old. I’m going to keep going at it though, it must be doing something. monroe   [End]
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As temporary fixes for halitosis you could try liquid chlorophyll and/or more sparing use of activated charcoal (just make sure you do not breathe it in). These should both absorb (or adsorb) toxins released from liver flushing so you won’t feel so ill. Eating cleanly and drinking lots of water (with lemon if possible) will help. I would imagine as you cleanse your organs, your health will be reflected outwardly in many areas. monroe   [End]
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Hi Dami, That’s great you did a flush! Look through my posts for the day time flush - I didn’t get sick at all and others seem to find it easier too. Our health is reflected in our skin and hair and eyes so by doing things to improve your health like eating well and taking care of your liver, you should be able to restore your eyes. If liver flushing is too difficult you could look into liver cleansing and taking herbs for that. I took Renew Life Liver Cleanse for a month, now I am taking Dr. Christopher’s Gallbladder and Liver caps, although I am still doing flushes. A simple ...
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Some people have reported on here that they released stones from coffee enemas. See Quikfire’s posts, I believe. He takes a range of supplements that includes stone breaker and he takes them after he takes in the coffee and lies down. Tetsi, also on CZ, has instructions for a gentle liver flush and I tried it a year or so ago several times but it didn’t produce any stones for me. monroe   [End]
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I think it is suggested by various sources to do one once a month or so, minimum two weeks in between flushes, and after doing a bowel and parasite cleanse. That said, there are people who do them more frequently and seem to have good results. The bowel cleanse would be important to make sure everything is moving and there are no obstructions, and the parasite cleanse is because most, if not all people have parasites and apparently they can block stones. Therefore it’s optimal to do these cleanses first. I did not and found out after the second flush why it’s important to parasi ...
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It’s my understanding that the bile can make a person feel sick if it sits there and isn’t excreted, and I’m also assuming it could be reabsorbed. If it’s full of toxins, that would not be optimal. I read a couple of posts from people saying to do enemas or colonics to make sure it’s all out. So I would guess that the minimal thing to do would be to take that last dose of epsom salts or magnesium to force the body to flush the last bits out. I’m not entirely sure if there is a need for a 2 hour window, I imagine those are just somewhat arbitrary guidelines. For instance, on the Dr. Chri ...
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I just read a post on this thread about hypoglycemia by Onwards: http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1885854 Sounds like Onwards has done a lot of cleansing and has hypoglycemia and might be able to help you. monroe   [End]
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Hi Hula, How can you tell the parasites in your pancreas are different from others? I’m asking because I’ve been taking a lot of stuff to kill parasites, and when I look back a couple of weeks to when I bought a massager, I remember I noticed a strange pain on my left below my ribs (not under my ribs). It goes away and reappears at times when I’m particularly vigilant with parasite cleansing. I’ve just been figuring out now that is where my pancreas is, and that’s how I came across this thread. I’ve been taking massive amounts of COQ10 and L-cysteine (in the form of NAC) as per D ...
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Hi Aerose, I posted this yesterday under my third liver flush but I think it’s good information so I don’t think anyone will mind if I post it here again. This is a from another site: ”Epsom Salts (magnesium sulfate) relax smooth muscle and will relax and dilate the bile duct to enable larger solid particles to pass through. Unrefined olive oil stimulates the gallbladder and bile duct to contract and expel its contents. Olive oil triggers the gall bladder to squeeze all of the bile out so that the bile can digest the fats. Until 2:00, you are allowed to eat all the fruit and ve ...
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I just started a third liver flush this afternoon, my only option because I won’t have a free day for over a week. I drank only apple juice yesterday and a bit of fruit and this morning had only water with lemon. I started the magnesium citrate at 1:30 (after my last appointment) and took the olive oil with grapefruit and orange juice at 3:15. I haven’t seen any stones, but I’ve seen lots of what I believe might be mushed up stones. I’ve been taking several forms of chanca piedra for several weeks now in capsule form and Stone Breaker by Herb Pharm and yesterday put hydrangea tinc ...
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Stone and liver flush info from Dr. Christopher’s site; 1.) For stones, add two droppers-full of Dr. Christopher’s Hydrangea root extract to 1/2 cup of apple juice and drink hourly until the pain is gone. To make it more specific for kidney stones add four drops of Dr. Christopher’s Kidney formula to each cup of Hydrangea infused apple juice. (This procedure usually works within a day or two.) 2.) For bone spurs, add two droppers-full of Dr. Christopher’s calcium formula extract and two droppers-full of the Hydrangea root extract to a cup of apple juice and consume three cups a day ...
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More info: ”Deworming doesn’t cause weight gain. Since I’ve started this journey, I’ve lost about 30-40 pounds or so. In my opinion, you have to choose store bought products wisely. When I first started out I got Parastroy (mainly because I was too lazy to put something together). My instincts told me that there was more and that I needed to go further. I’m really glad that I went with my instincts because I realized that I had more parasites than I thought. I decided to purchase fresh dry herbs, and capsulated them. I also got a tincture that had the 3 standard herbs, plus Quassia. ...
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Thanks Parazapper! I took about 1/4 of a 500g tablet this morning and felt like I was on fire - it might be the brand because I used to take B3 and I flushed but not like this. I just took another 1/4 and the flush wasn’t bad at all. I could feel it, but it didn’t hurt. So I’ll try what you said with lesser amounts - that makes sense. I’m going to take the B3 with my systemic enzymes, COQ10 and when I resume the Paragone in a few days, I’ll take it with that too. I haven’t felt anything crawling in days since I started the megadosing of COQ10 and systemic enzymes. monroe   [End]
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I think I read something about this but I ignored it because I hate taking niacin because of the burning feeling. But I was just thinking, if it opens blood vessels, wouldn’t it allow this stuff to potentially reach more of the body and thus kill off the stragglers? monroe   [End]
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I’ve made it regularly for years in a large stainless steel pot on my stove. I buy organic chicken soup bones, cover with spring water, add a little apple cider vinegar and simmer for at least 12 hours. I do this mostly for my dog but I try to drink some too. I give her the meat and the ends of bones that are crushable once it has simmered over 12 hours, as per Mark Sisson (Mark’s Daily Apple). It has become a habit for me to make this - really not hard at all. The more I read about bone broth, the more I believe everyone needs it, even though I don’t eat meat (I just can’t make mys ...
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I’m on the 5 day break between the first box of Paragone (15 days) and the second. I think the break is to let a new round of eggs hatch and then start again? Can I continue with mechanical means of parasite cleansing, such as frozen castor oil or frozen cod liver oil and DE or should I stop those too? Also can I continue with Dr. Clark’s mop up? COQ10, L-cysteine and ozonated olive oil (the last one I don’t have yet). After the second 15 day round of Paragone, which is primarily wormwood, black walnut and cloves, do I want to switch to different herbs so the parasites don’t bu ...
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Hi Sunflower, Because of scattering, I’ve started taking things I hope will be more systemic, like Clark’s high dose coq10 mop up, I’m taking the 4000mg every 5 days with 400-600mg 2 times per day every day in between. I upped the doses on my own because of the crawling feeling in my arms and feet. Also the L-cysteine (I have NAC, hope that’s okay). And I’ve ordered an ozonator for olive oil. I also started Zymactive systemic/proteolytic enzymes on an empty stomach, a few times a day. It’s supposed to dissolve them, at least if they’re dead. I think these things are making a diffe ...
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Yes, I believe the original person used epsom salts. I’m just afraid of damaging my kidneys. There are probably arguments for and against both though. I just found the original thread where I read about it: http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1403078 And here’s the post: ”I only take 1 tablespoon Epsom Salts before oil. Heres how I do my Liver Flush - (I’ve read a few other posts of people who do daytime flushes too basically along these lines...) Adjust the time to fit your schedule. 7:00am - 1 TBS. Epsom Salts 9:00am - oil/grapefruit (lie down about an hour) 1:00p ...
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Hi Aerose, I found out about it on here. I just looked but haven’t found the original post. It’s the same liver flush except you just start in the morning. The person who did it had great results and didn’t like the night before flushing, said she always threw up that way and didn’t like sleeping with a stomach full of bile, so she started the process in the morning and I decided that sounded better to me. The only thing is the liver is most active at 10pm, but my first morning flush was quite successful, second not so much, but now I’ve been parasite cleansing and hope to do ano ...
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Hi Aerose, Here is how I did my liver flush. The first time was very successful, hundreds of green stones, the second time, no stones. I think I ate normally the day before, (except I never eat junk food). I did the morning liver flush, as I read on Curezone, and used 5 scoops (150 mg/scoop) per drink as follows: 7 am: 750 mg of magnesium citrate in 2-3 glasses of water 9 am: 1/2 cup olive oil with freshly squeezed citrus juice 1 pm: 750 mg of magnesium citrate in 2-3 glasses of water 3 pm: 750 mg of magnesium citrate in 2-3 glasses of water By 3 pm or so, I started ge ...
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jessesmom1987 ”Darn, the informational links are no longer working and it doesn’t tell the instructions with the products I found online at the one site to buy. Normally it is one of those products that you have to get through practitioners. The protocal for the Systemic Formulas is in a manual in the ND’s office, but I had found them online. They are no longer working, and it was good information. What it says about the parasite killing herbs that I can remember was that you had to made a committment to take them for no less than 60 days. The VRM2 protocol, which I tested for ...
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Castor oil, when encapsulated and frozen, will pass through the stomach and small intestine before dissolving. Freezing the capsule before ingesting totally eliminates the traditional cramping associated with castor oil liquid because the capsules dissolve in the ileum, the last three fifths of the small intestine. Here the digestive tract hydrolyses this oil into recinoleic acid which whilst harmless to humans is deadly to parasites. The ileum connects to the cecum by way of the ileocecal valve and the majority of parasites of all kinds will nest in the cecum area ( the lower end of the a ...
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CASTOR OIL Castor oil, when encapsulated and frozen, will pass through the stomach and small intestine before dissolving. Freezing the capsule before ingesting totally eliminates the traditional cramping associated with castor oil liquid because the capsules dissolve in the ileum, the last three fifths of the small intestine. Here the digestive tract hydrolyses this oil into recinoleic acid which whilst harmless to humans is deadly to parasites. The ileum connects to the cecum by way of the ileocecal valve and the majority of parasites of all kinds will nest in the cecum area ( the lower ...
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I just read about salt and vitamin C and when I googled it, this came up. That would be very cheap for you to try: http://www.lymephotos.com/ After 13 years of suffering with Lyme disease, a possible cure has been stumbled upon. A cumulative effect of much research has produced the possibility that salt and vitamin C may be all that is needed to beat this elusive illness. Without going into a lot of detail, our theory is that Lyme is not just a bacterial disease, but also an infestation of microfilarial worms. Bacteria, worms, internal mites and the possibility of other creatures h ...
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Hi Marturo, So I take it that means June 4, 12, 20 and 27 this month are the optimal days to fast. Thank you for this information, I will try that and see what happens. This morning I bought Zymactive extra strength systemic/proteolytic enzymes by Natural Factors and took one on an empty stomach. I read that this can dissolve dead parasites in other places in the body. I’m not sure if it kills them, but Donjay says no: ”Pancreatic enzymes digest food after it had been prepared by chewing and mixing with mouth enzymes and agitated in the stomach with strong acid. Most parasites ...
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A good page of information on parasites and treatments: http://www.naturecures.co.uk/parasites.htm Here is just a section: TREATMENT FOR TAPEWORMS Asafoetida Dissolve a small piece of asafoetida in water and drink it on an empty stomach once a day for 3 days. Ash Gourd Seeds Take a handful of ash gourd seeds and grind them. Eat it in the morning on an empty stomach. Two hours later, take two teaspoons of castor oil. Betel nut Grind one betel nut with a small glass of milk. Take this early in the morning on an empty stomach. NOTE: Do not give to children. Avoid: if suffe ...
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Just found some new info: proteolytic enzymes, aka systemic enzymes http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1529494 ”I also want to add that systemic enzymes are not just regular enzymes used for digesting food. Very few people seem to mention them at all. If you take them on an empty stomach it will give them a chance to pass through your intestinal lining and get into your blood stream. If you take them anywhere from 3 to 5 times a day on an empty stomach it will help to digest parasites, candida and bacteria in other areas of your body other than your stomach. Without enzymes l ...
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Thanks Marturo! What are weekly moon days? Do you just fast with water? I wonder if flax would be as good as psyllium with bentonite. I will start experimenting but I would guess psyllium’s expansion with water really helps. A person on this board said she found green drinks helped with parasites due to alkalization: http://www.autismweb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21782 monroe   [End]
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CureZone Home Hulda Clark Hulda Regehr Clark Tapeworms and Ascaris Tapeworm Disease We all have tapeworm stages in our bodies, probably going back to childhood when we ate dirt. It is not normal for these stages to hatch and develop further. Their purpose is to stay dormant. And perhaps they do little harm this way. But I have found that all HIV/AIDS sufferers have ”tapeworm disease”. The stages are hatching. This spews the tiny larvae and cysts, plus unfertilized eggs and their bacteria all over the body, making you feel sick. Perhaps the large amounts of solvents accumula ...
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Someone’s experience with the Dr. Clark mop up program: http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1387024 Also there’s a debate about L-cysteine and mercury. monroe ” I know it’s not funny, but I had to LOL when I was thinking back, because I’m sure what caused the gas more than anything is the ozonated oil...and I remember saying to my husband that no parasite should be able to survive gas like that. :( I took the Coq10, ozonated oil and L-cysteine all together, still also taking herbs. With the load of parasites I had, I couldn’t call it a ”clean-up”, but it did get alot of stu ...
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I forgot to add, this morning, I kind of did a salt water flush. After I drank some ACV tonic (from Dr. Axe’s site) and added a chopped up clove of garlic, I put a couple of teaspoons of salt in water and drank most of it, but stopped when I read about someone who said she had a traumatic experience when she had an osbtruction. I think it would be safest to do the salt water flushes while on a fast, does that sound correct? Otherwise there is the potential for blockage and problems. I am now running to the bathroom a lot, and getting out even more of what I wrote above. I had fo ...
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Organizations like quackwatch are just from the establishment. They know all they have to do is introduce a small amount of doubt in order to sway or scare people back to conventional medicine and chronic illness, which keeps those in the establishment (FDA, pharmaceutical companies, etc.) very wealthy. My mother has UTIs. I bought her D-mannose and gave her dietary suggestions, but she went to the doctor, took antibiotics, and now has chronic, constant UTIs and yeast infections. She just went again and got more antibiotics. She won’t get on the computer and look up treatments, and only ...
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I’ve been doing salt water and ACV enemas, followed by coffee enemas and water enemas for over a week now, maybe two, plus Paragone, and yesterday ate fresh pineapple, and every day for over a week I’ve been getting down at least 1 cup of dried coconut (i started with 2 cups but it’s just too difficult). I started with freezing castor oil, but then I bought cod liver oil in capsules, froze them, and have been taking about 5-6 a day. I did 4000mg of COQ10 Sunday morning, and 400mg yesterday and 600 mg today, and during today’s enemas, I saw lots of what I think were smaller flukes, t ...
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Here is some confusing and contradictory stuff on diet and parasites: http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1019660 I’m including it here so I can find my way back to it. There’s some interesting stuff on taking loads of salt every day. I wonder if taking a lot of salt, whether in the form of salt flushes or in capsules, would kill them systemically? monroe This is what horsezan wrote: I also began the salt regimen that I learned about from lymephotos.com (do read that site) and found it INCREDIBLY helpful. Buy the salt pills from the pharmacy--they’re really cheap ...
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Hi Marturo, Wow, thank you for that! I guess I might have gotten some more out over this full moon but I haven’t noticed. Congratulations on the wonderful results with your health - I will try to time my things more with the lunar cycles. I did buy a pineapple today and ate some. It sounds like you have better muscular development as well. I would guess that when we are able to assimilate more nutrients instead of feeding parasites, it will help many areas of health. I’m taking DE, but was thinking about the P&B shakes only with ground flax instead of psyllium because I don’t ...
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The minimum for parasites you could do is DE if that is all you can afford. Read the testimonials on Amazon and watch people on Youtube. It should give you hope. I’ve just been reading on COQ10 in very high doses, see my posts on this, and if you can afford it, it might also help, but it sounds like you might also need L-cysteine and ozonated olive oil, which drives up the cost. I’ve had success in the past with just frozen castor oil capsules. I bought organic castor oil, poured it into capsules, and froze it, and took about 5 at a time, just for a short while. Apparently you can do ...
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Good info on parasites in the brain: The herbal parasite program is not effective against all tapeworms. [In the old editions of the books Dr. Clark used to recommend Rascal against tapeworms.] The zapper can’t reach every one either. Other traditional herbs, such as pumpkin seed or male fern, are helpful, but the most effective treatment I have found is Co-enzyme Q10. It takes a very large amount, 3000mg, to reach tapeworm casts in far away places like the brain or bone marrow. This is 3 grams. If you are extra tall or heavy, it takes 4 grams [over 155 pounds]. Co-enzyme Q10 is n ...
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I’ve been reading on what to do about parasites in the head/brain: ”I had taken a good dose of L-Cysteine on Sunday and then took Lugol’s Iodine on Monday and got good die-off mostly in my head. Where you the person that said L-Cysteine ’skins’ them? I know someone in here said that. So I think that is a good protocol for my head ones now.” Most info is on zapping and MMS. I don’t want to zap my head and I don’t have a zapper (still thinking about it). MMS (sodium chlorite) cannot be imported into Canada. Health Canada issued a strong warning about it. So, that leaves L-cysteine a ...
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Hi Marturo, Do you feel like you got most of them? Do you feel better? May I ask what you did that worked for you? I know that might be asking a lot! monroe   [End]
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Thank you both for posting. I really appreciate your advice. I intend to do a salt water flush but hear it is hard to do. Could you please describe your experience with it and how you do yours? I’ve been eating some sugar but I still feel them moving in other parts of the body. I’ve eaten a little pineapple but haven’t gone crazy because of other people saying not to eat fruits or other sugars, but now I’m thinking maybe I should eat a pineapple a day for a while? I think I might have seen eggs this morning. I’m not totally sure, but I took ornithine last night and arginine this m ...
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https://rhrplus.com/b2evolution/blogs/index.php/Articles/parasite-kill-zone-2#c3561 The article above makes an interesting point: ”Lastly, please remember to take something sweet with your protocol so that you will not create a larger problem. The one thing that you want to avoid is having parasites flee from the intestinal tract with migration throughout the body into other organs. Parasites will do just about anything to avoid being killed. Their job is to live by adapting to their environment and eat foods that you like. They’ve had millions of years of parasitic DNA programming ...
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More parasite info: http://www.peak-health-now.com/parasites-liver-detox.html https://rhrplus.com/b2evolution/blogs/index.php/Articles/parasite-kill-zone-2#c3561 The article above makes an interesting point: ”Lastly, please remember to take something sweet with your protocol so that you will not create a larger problem. The one thing that you want to avoid is having parasites flee from the intestinal tract with migration throughout the body into other organs. Parasites will do just about anything to avoid being killed. Their job is to live by adapting to their environment and e ...
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More info on parasites and mucoid plaque: http://bodyberries.com/poop-perfection-how-to-restore-healthy-gut-flora-and-treat-prevent-ibs-weight-gain-allergies-autism/ Dr. Clark’s mop up schedule: http://www.drclark.net/cleanses/beginners/mop-up-program Another parasite protocol I read about (Erik Hamel): http://www.erichamel.com/documents/doc_AntiparasitesCure.html monroe   [End]
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You might have found this out by now but I don’t think you can hold an ACV enema. I can’t, I have to go right away, not like coffee enemas. monroe   [End]
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Hi Lonzo, I just saw your post now. A couple of years ago, I think I took the castor oil caps about two times over two days maybe 6 capsules each time? I remember after the first dose, that afternoon, I felt something fluttering in my abdomen. I didn’t look for anything so I didn’t find anything, but the next day I was told I had no parasites by someone who I think may be a psychic. I realize that’s not a very good explanation, but I figured I must have killed something. This time, I started the Paragone and I think I took frozen castor oil the next morning (just looked at my no ...
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High dose CoQ10 http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=24370 L-cysteine, pomegranate, Coq10, how to make ozonated olive oil: http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=473718 ”The 3000mg of CoQ10 is not to be consumed on a daily basis. CoQ10 is used to get rid of Tapeworms and possibly Ascaris. Then a mop up is done with ozonated olive oil and 500 mg of L-cysteine. I took one 3000 mg dose of sublingual CoQ10. Five days later I took another dose to clean up whatever the first dose didn’t get. Kinda like a rinse cycle :) I felt no ill side effects, in fact I felt great! Oh ...
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I just found this on Health-wyze about DE: Diatomaceous earth contains heavy metals as part of its mineral content, but it also contains selenium, which allows otherwise accumulative heavy metals to be safely flushed from the body. Therefore, it is not really a health concern despite the trace presence of aluminum and lead. We recommend taking selenium supplements for a week after discontinuing this treatment to ensure that the body thoroughly neutralizes the metals. Concerned individuals can follow the parasite cleanse with a metal cleanse. Our research indicates that diatomaceous ear ...
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More good information for killing parasites: http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1073357 Particularly l-cysteine and ozonated olive oil. monroe   [End]
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Hi Lonzo and anyone else trying to kill parasites, I just found Mizmac’s parasite protocol. She has eliminated her parasites. It’s too long to post here, but here is the URL: http://www.curezone.org/blogs/fm.asp?i=2289785 A couple of things to note are frozen cod liver oil, DE, Vitaklenz, bromelain, but there is a lot more great information in her post. A bit overwhelming, but so are the parasites: ( Does anyone know anything about activated hydrogen? Where to get it? How to make it? I’ve been googling it but I still don’t understand what it is. monroe   [End]
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Hi Mizmac, Thank you for posting this - What herbal formula did you take? I will look up activated hydrogen but I’ve never heard of it before. If you could please explain, I would be very grateful! How many frozen cod liver oil caps did you take at once and how often? Thank you, monroe   [End]
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I just found some more information and other treatments that don’t sound so bad: http://www.drclark.net/the-essentials/beginners/parasites/ascaris-a-tapeworms http://www.autismweb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21782 http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/drclarknetwork/dr-clarks-cleanses/mop-up-program/ Tapeworm and ascaris mop-up program Mop-up program For two weeks. take: Ozonated olive oil I tablespoon AM and PM; L-Cysteine (500mg) 2 capsules 3 X daily (Livingnetwork added caution: Please read this link first on Sulfur problems before using L-Cysteine as you may experien ...
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Thank you, I will look into that! Will the PYRANTEL PAMOATE test tell me about different types of worms? I don’t have pinworms, from what I have read. I’m 99% sure I found the scolex and a segment of a tapeworm, and possibly an ascaris, and one for sure liver fluke. Here is the link to mattk3’s ebook for others out there: http://www.curezone.org/ig/i.asp?i=82210 monroe   [End]
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Hi Lonzo, When I took the frozen castor oil a couple of years ago I think I just fasted that day. These days I’m not fasting unless I’m doing an actual liver flush, but I take the castor oil on an empty stomach. I’ve added diatomaceous earth but less than a teaspoon - maybe half - because it can turn cement-like if too much is consumed. I may only stay on it for 10 days at a time as per Dr. Axe. Last night I thought it would also be a good idea to try eating two cups of dried coconut. It takes forevah to eat 2 cups of dried coconut! It seemed like a good idea at the time but this ...
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I have been googling diatomaceous earth after reading about it on here. It has so many health benefits, you might be interested - you could google your specific issues beside ”diatomaceous earth” and see what comes up. monroe   [End]
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I was just on iherb to order some deworming tinctures like wormwood and black walnut so I can add them to enemas. I was surprised to see Dr. Christopher’s bone and tissue massage oil come up in the search, a product that I love and that really works. Check out the ingredients: wildcrafted white oak bark (pain) comfrey root (healing skin) wildcrafted mullein leaf (lungs) wildcrafted black walnut leaf (parasites) wildcrafted marshmallow root (kidneys, I think) wildcrafted gravel root (kidneys) wildcrafted wormwood herb (parasites wildcrafted lobelia herb (lungs) wildcrafted s ...
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This is why I stopped watching X Files. This is sucking. Going to stop giving my dog raw meat. Advice would be appreciated... monroe   [End]
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I don’t think longevity should be necessarily associated with health. I know lots of elderly people, and not so elderly, who are in miserable condition. I hope I do not live too long, but I sure don’t want to spend any more time feeling lousy. I can’t eat gluten, limit sugar and grains and eat mostly organic and refuse to take pharmaceutical drugs and I still have lots of problems. I kind of blame doctors in my youth for causing the problems I now have from drugs and antibiotics they prescribed. And that email going around that says ”I ate Wonderbread and drank copious amounts of p ...
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Hi Lonzo, I’m glad you posted, my bf thinks I’m a hypochondriac and if he knew half of what I was up to, I’m sure he’d have me committed. I did my first real liver flush last Friday and got hundreds of green stones. If you click on my username, you should be able to find all my posts. I used magnesium citrate because I was afraid of damaging my kidneys. Since the first flush I’ve had pain in one of my kidneys, I think it’s a stone so I’m taking chanca piedra. Tried again on Monday (I know, too soon, but some people have success doing several in quick succession) and no stones. ...
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When I got a headache in the morning of my first liver flush, I figured it was from toxins. It went away. I’ve also been taking activated charcoal to adsorb toxins - you could try that. I don’t take much, maybe 1/2 a capsule, because they adsorb a lot. monroe   [End]
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Hi Janzy, I’d make sure everything’s moving regularly before you do a flush. Enemas are good for this, I like Cleansemore as well. Since my first very successful liver flush and no stones on the second (which I’m still thinking was good in that it cleared out other stuff and hopefully is prepping for more stones to be released in the future), I’ve been reading everything I can and doing lots of coffee enemas with protocols to try to get stones to come out. I’ve found several on CZ. I also read that lots of people have reported parasites blocking liver stones, so I thought I shoul ...
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Thanks Steve, I am looking into the Terminator by Don Croft but maybe I’ll try the one you suggested since it’s half the price. This is much appreciated since I’ve been wondering how to choose a zapper. monroe   [End]
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I forgot to add that this morning when I was feeling the thing moving, my right shoulder was really stiff, and now it’s not nearly as stiff.   [End]
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I guess this won`t be a shock to many people on here but it is to me. I did a second liver flush and this time no stones came out. I have been doing coffee enemas all week with various protocols I`ve read on here to try to get more stones out. Nothing. I also read about using a vibrating massager as close to the liver as possible, but all I had was a foot massager, so I used that, and then I started getting a pain on my left but too low to be the liver. It started soon after I first used the massager and I can still feel it at times. I`m going to buy a percussion massager soon. ...
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Hi Janzy, I was just reading on Curezone about liver flushing and came across this post: ”I think they say take 1000 mgs of malic acid every day before a week before a flush. I don’t do that. I take 2000 every day for two weeks before the flush and I have great flushes every time sine I started doing that. I take the powdered capsuls” So malic acid has been successful for some people - maybe the girl I read about didn’t take nearly enough. I’ve also been reading that people have gotten more stones using handheld massagers and a few people did jumping jacks or used a mini trampo ...
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Some info I found on taurine: TAURINE and liver cleansing in Post polio Comments by Tessa Jupp on a trial underway by the WA Polio Clinic into the benefits of Taurine in Post Polio. One of our WA members who had tried the liver cleanse diet by Dr Sandra Cabot (NSW) earlier this year, alerted us to the fact that she had been able to halve the amount of carnitine she needed to take to improve her endurance. On looking through the book that she lent me, (and realising many of our members would never stick at an 8 week major diet change program) I decided that Taurine was probably ...
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Thanks Steve I really need hope and encouragement right now! You are very much appreciated, monroe   [End]
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Has anyone else released stones with this? I tried these instructions this morning after a second liver flush yesterday (perhaps too soon but some people do them more frequently) that did not release any green stones. No green stones with the coffee enemas this morning either, although I tried to follow the above protocol as closely as I could, given that I made pour over (drip) organic coffee - light roast and only had Himalaya Liver Care, chanca piedra, and glycine. iherb doesn’t seem to sell Deep Liver Support from Gaia. I’m going to keep trying this method in between liver ...
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Could you also please recommend a hand held massager? Is it one of those wooden things or a vibrating thing? Thank you! monroe   [End]
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Thanks for this procedure - could you please elaborate on what you eat or drink before the CEs if anything at all? monroe   [End]
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Thank you for this protocol!   [End]
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Have you seen this page on here? http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=2240449   [End]
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I made a big oops with the number of scoops! I don’t know what I was thinking other than I had the number 7 stuck in my mind because of 750 mg. I took 5 scoops of the magnesium citrate, which according to the Natural Factors label is 150 mg per scoop (it would depend on the size they provide), which should equal 750 mg, if my math this time is correct. So the corrected schedule is as follows: 7am 5 scoops mag citrate 9 am 1/2 cup olive oil, citrus juice 1 pm 5 scoops mag citrate 3 pm 5 scoops mag citrate I feel like an eejit and hope I didn’t mess anybody’s flush up with ...
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OOPS I made a mistake with the number of scoops! I don’t know what I was thinking other than I had the number 7 stuck in my mind because of 750 mg. I took 5 scoops of the magnesium citrate, which equals 750 mg, if my math this time is correct. So the corrected schedule is as follows: 7am 5 scoops mag citrate 9 am 1/2 cup olive oil, citrus juice 1 pm 5 scoops mag citrate 3 pm 5 scoops mag citrate I feel like an eejit and hope I didn’t mess anybody’s flush up with my shoddy math! monroe PS It shouldn’t matter what type of apples or apple juice you take - store bought ...
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No malic acid capsules. I read someone’s blog post who had just used malic acid capsules and she got very sick, which someone said might have been the reason. I juiced or ate 4 organic apples a day for several weeks prior to the liver flush. I was working up the courage and needed a full day at home so I was taking the apples for much longer than the 6 days some people say is necessary. Aside from the cost, I think it was a good thing and I love apples and apple juice. I also drank some apple cider vinegar each day, and for about the last week, took Dr. Axe’s tonic with ACV. Just goo ...
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Hi Mr Sid, It sounds like you’re trying to do what is best for yourself and that is wonderful. Follow your intuition but always question whenever you think about trying anything severe. Dr. Wilson discusses a way to cleanse that does not involve deprivation and he explains why certain cleansing methods don’t work, based on his many years of practice: http://drlwilson.com/ While he might not be the be all and end all, I think following advice such as this may be helpful. Remember to always be compassionate with yourself, researchers are even finding that self-compassion and ...
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Thank you, I really appreciate your advice! I want to take it easy but I’m also wanting to do this again so badly! My kidney (maybe just muscle pain but I suspect it’s my kidney) is worrying me so I have no choice but to wait. This is exactly what I took: Natural Factors Stress Relax Magnesium powder http://ca.iherb.com/Natural-Factors-Stress-Relax-Magnesium-Citrate-Natural-Berry-Drink-Mix-8-8-oz-250-g-Powder/42939 If anyone needs a coupon code, PEY561 will work but you can get this product much cheaper in Canada as it’s made here. 1 scoop = 150 mg mag citrate There is f ...
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All I can comment on is your magnesium citrate question. I just did my liver flush using magnesium citrate - Natural Factors flavoured powder. I did the morning liver flush, as I read on Curezone, and used 7 scoops (150 mg/scoop) per drink as follows: 7 am: 750 mg of magnesium citrate in 2-3 glasses of water 9 am: 1/2 cup olive oil with freshly squeezed citrus juice 1 pm: 750 mg of magnesium citrate in 2-3 glasses of water 3 pm: 750 mg of magnesium citrate in 2-3 glasses of water By 3 pm or so, I started getting hundreds of stones, and that went on through the night. It w ...
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I think I may have pain in my right kidney. It started after working out this morning. Perhaps my kidneys were taxed by the magnesium citrate after all and the workout was too much? I’m taking chanca piedra, gravel root, marshmallow and oregon grape just in case I have a kidney stone.   [End]
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I know this is 11 years old but gravel root is eupatorium purpureteum. It’s a restorative and cleansing herb that acts on the genitourinary organs.   [End]
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Today: a few small extra skin break outs, sigh. Tiredness is back. Shoulder is a tiny bit stiff but overall neck and shoulders are great. Right hip is sore - I feel like there’s inflammation from the liver flush. I’ve been thinking of taking an activated charcoal capsule to absorb toxins but I don’t like to take them too often. A weird note from yesterday that I feel is related. During the flush, I felt a strange electrical sensation from my lower left abdominal area and my left big toe (if I remember correctly). It felt as if there was a nerve going from the intestine or colo ...
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Hello Mr Sid, Without knowing you at all, I hope it’s okay if I ask a few questions. Where did you learn to eat the way you do? Where did you learn that fasting for 30-40 days is healthy? I wonder if you might be open to considering the possibility that you could choose to be a healthy person? I wonder if you could perhaps begin to investigate how eating real, whole foods and making sure your nutritional needs are met might help rather than starving and punishing yourself and your body so it has no choice but to retaliate? I wonder if you can turn this into ways to learn t ...
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I can see why you wrote that - stones were still coming out through the night. I did more water and coffee enemas this morning and can’t wait to do another liver flush. I know people say to wait but this did not feel harsh at all, probably because I didn’t use epsom salts and because I had prepped for so long. My jeans feel looser, I feel happier and lighter, I can see why everyone is on about these flushes and wish I had done one sooner! Thanks for all the support! monroe   [End]
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Possibly a combination of things such as the Rocutaine (devastating drug, I took Accutaine and blame that on my gluten intolerance) plus a lack of vitamin D from the sun. Vitamin D works in concert with many things and when our D levels drop in the winter, lots of things can go out of whack. You might look into calendula salve for your lips. I had angular chelitis briefly until I began to put that on the corners of my mouth and it went away in a couple of days and hasn’t returned. Also, I have no idea if it would help, but Dr. Christopher’s bone and tissue massage oil has been a m ...
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Thanks rd1eforever! It worked! It actually worked! Just like everybody says - hundreds of pea green little stones about 2 hours after the second dose of magnesium citrate. No pain, no sickness, nothing. My shoulders and neck haven’t been feeling stiff all day, so maybe that wasn’t to do with the liver after all, although I strongly felt it was. monroe   [End]
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I googled liver flukes today and several of the pictures looked like what is in your picture. monroe   [End]
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I finally decided to just do it. But I started in the morning, following these posts here: http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1403078 and I decided to take magnesium citrate, 600 mg powder, with 3 glasses of water, instead of the epsom salts. In a little bit I will take the 1/2 cup olive oil with fresh lemon and orange juice because I ran out of grapefruit while chickening out about doing the flush. I am also doing water and coffee enemas while I’m waiting. I hope that’s okay. The magnesium has already taken effect. I will update! monroe   [End]
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Hi Amy, I know these posts are 7 years old, but why do you not drink water with the epsom salts first thing in the morning? How do you get them down without much water? monroe   [End]
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Hi Amber, The good news is that if it did come from you, it’s out! However, you still want to cleanse for parasites. I did a parasite cleanse a few years ago that seemed to be effective. I filled gel capsules with castor oil and froze them and took them internally. I remember feeling something really weird moving around inside after that. I think I did castor oil packs too, with the instructions according to Edgar Cayce. A few days later I had a phone appointment with someone who does Emotion Code work (not sure if I believe in it). However, he did some kind of reading on me and ...
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Hi Anna, How did it go? I haven’t done mine yet - haven’t had a day free. I was just reading on curezone about another way to do it called Dr. David Jubb’s Liver Flush. I might do it that way if I ever get some time off. I’m also scared to be honest! Hope yours went well and you got great results, monroe   [End]
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From everything I’ve read, you’ve got to drink apple juice every day for 6 days. I’ve read you can eat apples too. Some say you can take malic acid, but on one blog, the girl said she did this and was very sick during her liver flush. Someone replied to her that it was because she took malic acid instead of apple juice and it wasn’t enough. You can also drink apple cider vinegar. I’m drinking a tonic recommended by Dr. Axe. I have read a book on liver cleansing flushing I bought on Amazon. It was quite short but now I wish I had bought the Andrea Moritz book just to make sure. ...
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Maybe you should contact an iridologist? Someone who diagnoses ailments by looking at the eye.   [End]
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I have not done a liver flush yet but I’ve been doing a liver detox (Renew Life) because I believe I may have a clogged or fatty liver (due to bulletproof coffee for a year). My shoulders and neck are incredibly sore and stiff. I feel somehow this is related to my liver. Once I do a liver flush, I will update this if I experience any lessening of the shoulder and neck stiffness.   [End]
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