30 minutes before, or 2 hours after, unless...

...Unless you have eaten out of your normal mealtimes.

The point, I believe, is to get the fullest impact of the herbals, without diminishing the impact with food.

But, it is even more important to regularly dose the body every 8 to 12 hours, preferably every twelve hours.

So, if you have to take the odd dose with some food in your stomach, then do so.

Even if you miss a dose, pick right up on schedule and continue...trying not to miss again.

That's how I understand it.

It's not so much a 'magic bullet' as a 'process', I think.

Hope this helps.

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