thank you all so much.. great information. persistence sounds like the watchword.. plan to zapp tonight!!! I am a big fan of probiotics . funny you should mention kombucha .. I drink almost 3 gallons every two weeks. I am totally hooked on the stuff. My cultures came from a nice site called cajunernie.com. thank you parazapper for the alkaizing drink recipe. I have all the ingredients and will mix up a batch and let you know how its working.I agree with the slower approach to pH.. or otherwise you end up dumping too many toxins from your fat. I love curezone!!!