hi grz, i just visited my uncle during spring break to play golf , we managed to get in several rounds but he is in extreme pain with his knees, the doctors want to do knee replacement surgery on both knees. i told him i will try to get some information for him to try before the major knee surgery, so since you have been there done that, i know you are the best to ask. if you are willing and have time could you form a complete protocol for me to give him to follow, he seems willing to try this path first, maybe he can follow the path that you are leading and recover his health and knees, GOD BLESS and thanks.