In this example, which would the Lord Jesus be and which would be His disciples who have died to flesh and were born again of His Holy Spirit, such as John, Peter and Paul? I say that neither of these 2 men represent any true born again believer who died to flesh and was born of the Holy Spirit of the Living God. I don't hold you in contempt vektek, but you are obviously deeply confused and deeply misled and i would love to pray deliverance for you to help you to get set free from captivity to sin among other things. Do you honestly believe it is our ultimate goal to be like that sinner and stay that way? He did good there by repenting, but should he go and commit the same sins tomorrow as you appear to be perfectly in favor of? If we let Him, the Lord Jesus sets us free from captivity to our sin and i really think you should let Him.