Re: Moving Glaxony's "liver flush debate" (The Truth in Medicine) 5/15/2012 1940477

Re: Moving Glaxony's "liver flush debate"

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I am not getting stones. I am getting sludge.

Why do your stories keep changing every time your claims are exposed? Sludge is not the same as stones. Sludge is like tiny particles of sand. Yet you clearly said several times that you cut these "rubbery balls" open and saw layers. So how can you determine if sludge consists of "rubbery balls" being the grains are so tiny? You can't. How can you cut them open? You can't. How can you see layers in something the size of a grain of sand or smaller? You can't. Making up stories is not helping your arguments at all.

In fact, another contradiction also comes from one of your earlier posts:

"MINE DID NOT MELT. THEY HARDENED IN MY BODY AND INTERFERED WITH MY DIGESTION. THEY WERE PRE-CALCIFIED. FORTUNATELY I GOT THEM OUT BEFORE THEY HAD TIME TO TURN INTO ROCKS, OR I MIGHT HAVE ENDED UP AT THE HOSPITAL NEEDING AN OPERATION."

If they take 75 years to harden in to rocks as you claim then what was your worry? Unless you had them all your life, which would not be the case you would have to be close to 90 years old to have to be worrying about gallstones according to your claims. After all they have to harden in to rocks to lodge in the ducts.

It doesn't turn into a stone until you leave it in there for 75 years to petrify. If you only leave it in for 49 years, it only turns into hard rubber balls.

LOL!!! Neither of these are true. A real gallstone only takes a few years to grow and calcify. In fact, I provided proof against your claim just a few days ago in my post:

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Do you realize how old someone has to be before they stones get hard and solidify into soft balls?

First of all the stones do not harden in to "soft balls". That whole statement is a contradiction.

Secondly, the physical age of the person has nothing to do with it. Real gallstones get larger and harden with time, not get bigger and soft and squishy. Real calcified stones can happen in younger people as well. Again they just take several years to grow to any appreciable size, which is why it is impossible for those large globs people are passing every few days or weekly to be real gallstones.

To show you what I mean about a person's physical age having nothing to do with it I am posting some case studies for you. Note this first case is in a 20 year old women who has been dealing with real gallstones for 2 years. As we can see gallstones are not strictly an elderly issue:

http://bestpractice.bmj.com/best-practice/monograph/78/diagnosis/case-history...

Also note that in this case the stone had lodged in the bile duct. This occurs with larger, hard gallstones. Not with sludge or tiny, squishy gravel.

Another case in a 39 year old male:

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/3527908?uid=3739824&uid=2129&ui...

In a 7 1/2 year old child:

http://www.jpgmonline.com/article.asp?issn=0022-3859;year=1987;volume=33;issu...

And this does not make them extremely common either. Real gallstones are somewhat common, but larger stones the size of a quarter or larger are really not that common. Yet these people passing what they think are gallstones are passing these blobs sometimes every few days. As both of us agree though real gallstones CANNOT grow this fast, which is even more solid proof that the blobs are saponified olive oil, not real gallstones. This is what I cannot understand. Your own claims are proof that what people are passing are not real gallstones, yet you keep insisting that they are. For example, once again as real gallstones slowly grow they calcify making them hard. So real gallstones of any significant size will be hard as a rock, not soft and rubbery.

Granted gallstones are less likely in children, still they can occur in people from young to old. So they do not take many decades to grow as you are claiming.

Call them whatever you want. But they hurt and if you don't get them out, eventually your gall bladder will burst and you will get gangrene, is my unofficial unscientific understanding.

If they were real gallstones, which are calcified then damage to the gallbladder is a possibility. Soap stones formed in the intestines from the "liver flush" do not hurt the gallbladder though.

And they are extremely painful. And you cannot eat a french fry without getting really bad indigestion.

Not quite. This is why you need to find credible sources of information.

The reason some people don't get them and other people do is because of genetics

Again not true. Many things can bring on gallstones including being overweight, hormones and sudden weight loss to name a few. These are not genetic factors. Again, you need to start finding credible sources of information.

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