Re: Misinformation, mercury fillings :)

 Hver,

Liver flushes help both the gallbladder and the liver. Stones are formed in the liver, they aren't formed in the gallbladder.

 

Apparently I already know a lot more about the subject than you do since I knew that they were not formed in the liver but rather the gallbladder. Maybe if you spent more time researching the facts rather than making them up…..

 

If you're going to bash liver flushing, at least know something about them. My practical experience backs up exactly what they say, otherwise it would have never helped me.

 

Practical experience means nothing if you don't have a proper diagnosis, and have no physical evidence to back up the original problem being fixed. If I had cancer and they gave me morphine to control the pain does it mean the cancer is gone? Of course not. Just because you feel better this does not mean the problem is fixed. A problem you are not even sure of what it is.

I didn't have a problem with my gallbladder, this is exactly what I'm saying. You're like a doctor, PLEASE LISTEN TO ME. The problem was with my liver. If Liver Flushes did nothing, like you claim, they wouldn't have helped.

Regarding the stone debate, the fact is that people have released "OO stones" before even taking olive oil. People have released "OO stones" where they didn't even use olive oil (they used a coffee enema). People have used eggs to do liver flushes. How does that make sense the stones were made from OO? It doesn't.

First of all how do you know they are real stones? Did you have them analyzed? Secondly, do you think OO is the only source of sterols out there? I can name all sorts of plants that we consume that are loaded with sterols. And eggs are a great source of cholesterol for making a sterol-cholesterol complex. So again, where is your proof that these are real stones? And I am still waiting for an explanation of how these supposed "stones" that are much larger than the bile ducts are physically capable of dilating made it though the ducts? The average REAL stone is less than 15mm. Do you realize how small that really is? Yet the photos of these so called stones people are claiming to have passed are MUCH larger. So large in fact that they could not have possibly passed through the ducts even with dilation by magnesium. So again, tell us all how you get a basketball to pass through the eye of a needle?

Regarding your stagnation theory, I already showed you from experience that there's more to it than that. I have 40%+ of my calories as fat, the bile in my liver and gallbladder is certainly not stagnating. Yet, I still need to do a Liver Flush every 2 months or my liver will not feel good.

And as I said ingesting oil is not a guarantee that you will not have gallbladder stagnation. There are other factors at play including fiber intake, hormones, medications, calcium-magnesium levels....... So how do you know it was not your gallbladder? Who diagnosed your problem? What tests did they use to confirm the problem, or was this an assumptive diagnosis?

I know exactly how the human body works thanks, but apparently you don't realize that stones are formed in the liver. They only get trapped in the gallbladder.

Apparently you don't know how the body works since you were unaware that gallstones and most intrahepatic (liver) stones are formed in the gallbladder, not the liver. And the majority of the rare stones actually formed in the hepatic ducts are pigment stones, not cholesterol stones. Hopefully you understand why this proves your claim wrong?

How do you explain the hundreds of people that needed gallbladder surgery and no longer need it after spending months do ONLY liver flushes with Dr Schulz? Seriously, your mind if very closed and not open to new information.


>>Actually, why don’t you tell all of us why the “stones” people are passing float, unlike real gallstones, which sink?

Actually, the really hard, old and calcified stones DO sink. Only the newly formed (green cholesterol) ones float. If you had any practical experience or knew more about it, you'd know that.

Tell you what. While you are explaining to all of us how these so called stones, that are much larger than the maximum dilation diameter of the bile ducts can expand, are being passed through these ducts, also explain this to us. The average real stone is less than 15mm in size, and they sink. The photos of what people are claiming are stones are much larger, and thus would be much older. So why are they still floating? At least try using some common sense!!!

>>Again, have any proof (about parasites)?

Actually, yes I do. I've seen them first hand. This is the problem here, I have actual experience (with more than just myself) and you don't.

Your claim was: “Second, parasites have been a problem for many people with Candida.”. Your seeing what you think are parasites is not proof to this claim. Being that you cannot provide any proof to the claim I have to assume that it does not exist. Practical experience is not of any value when it is not proof of anything.

>>I have never bought in to the mercury Amalgams causing
>>disease thing. .... because nearly all the mercury was
>>removed when the fillings were put in.


Omg, I knew it. LOL is all I can say about that.

Mercury is the 2nd most highly toxic substance on the earth, to most people I think it makes sense that it would cause problems if you put any deadly substance in your mouth. How can it not make more sense than that?

 

Noone has said it is not toxic. What is being challenged is that the mercury is still leaching decades later and that it has accumulated in the tissues considering the fact that we consume natural mercury chelators every day. Explain to all of us how it is that most of us have eaten tuna most of our lives yet we are not dead or brain damaged? Could it be that the mercury is being chelated out of the body little by little preventing a deadly accumulation in the body. Again, try some common sense. By the way, I have several amalgam fillings, yet I am perfectly healthy. How can that be when mercury is the second most highly toxic substance on earth?

Here are some decent videos on it, that directly prove you wrong, there is still mercury in mercury fillings, and it does leak out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=CA&hl=en&v=2CgyU9Ep7_M&feature=re...

 

ROTFLMAO!!!! A propaganda tape is evidence? I loved the part where they used a sniffer on a fresh amalgam and got a high reading. Well duh? How stupid do they think the general public is?!!! Mercury levels of a fresh amalgam is going to be high. What they should have done was use the sniffer in someone’s mouth that has had amalgams for decades. Then we would see if there is any mercury coming out. So why didn’t they do that? Oh, that’s right, it would have totally blown their propaganda campaign!!!

 

Here, let’s look at a REAL piece of evidence:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1962164?ordinalpos=7&itool=EntrezSyste...

 

The mercury release of different amalgams in vitro

 

“Release of mercury from 8 different amalgams was tested in water initially and after annealing für 2 years. The measuring methodology was geared to warrant minimum mercury losses due to evaporation and adsorption. Mercury loss during the first 24 hours ranged between 17.4 micrograms/cm2.d and 34.5 micrograms/cm2.d. Annealing of the amalgams for 2 years reduced mercury leaching significantly, to about 1.5 micrograms/cm2.d with no significant differences between the different amalgam brands.”

 

So note the drastic drop in the amount being released in as little as 2 years. This backs up exactly what I was saying. So is there any mercury leaching after decades? Not likely. And the mercury that did leach has likely already been chelated out since we consume chelation agents on a daily basis.

Just one users experience, there are HUNDREDS I've found.
http://mercurypoisoningeffects.blogspot.com/2008/07/my-story-my-story-mercury...

And again, this is not evidence. It stated that she had been eating tuna, which is known for mercury. And it is not the only food source. She had symptoms that were fitting on numerous things. She admitted to having abscesses, which could have accounted for most of her symptoms.

After spending the last 3 years reading hundreds of people's experiences, studies (mercury fillings are banned in many European countries), I find your opinion on this to be extremely ignorant.

 

I cannot believe you are gullible enough to buy in to a propaganda clip on mercury.

If anyone had any doubts before that you were a quack, hopefully they understand that you are now.

Quackery is buying in to propaganda without proof then trying to pass it off as fact!!!

>>Both. I have been working with people and their diseases
>>and disorders for a very, very long time

I believe you, you do work in the health field, because only someone who is a health professional could be so pompous and yet know so little about health. I still can't believe your point of view on mercury fillings, it's unbelievable!

You also falsely believed that gallstones were formed in the liver. So forgive me if I don’t believe any of the crap you spout without any shred of real proof.

Health professionals are also, in my experience, untrainable. My oncologist actually doesn't WANT to know how my cancer went into remission. They don't want to know and they don't care! Just like you.

It is your assumptions that have gotten you in to trouble earlier. So I recommend you stop making assumptions about me as well because your assumptions about me are just as wrong as your assumptions about the formation of gallstones.

And I also knew that you had no personal experience with disease yourself. I'm sure you are a doctor, dentist or nurse now.

 

Like I said you should not assume so much. You just keep getting things wrong.

 

You remind me of the doctors that told me that Candida didn't exist, back in 1996. They thought they knew everything and yet knew nothing because of that.

The difference between you and a doctor is that a doctor looks at evidence and learns. You ignore evidence and assume.

>>I agree, and this is why people have to be careful with
>>self diagnosis. They can easily confuse what is really
>>wrong with them with something else, like mistaking
>>liver pain for gallbladder problems.

I didn't self diagnose though. I had 8 months of testing and some of the best doctors in the city work with me. Unless you are saying that 4 doctors misdiagnosed liver cancer and hepatitis and they all missed the fact that I have gallstones, you're wrong. Maybe you should come to Toronto and correct them! I'm sure you would try.

 

I did not say anything about cancer or hepatitis. I said that your pains were likely from the gallbladder. Oh, and guess what you just said you had gallstones. Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!! Gee, I guess I do know something about the body.


>>What is not support is allowing someone to put themself
>>in danger by suppressing information of known safety
>>issues.

Exactly why I responded to your post.

You doubt that mercury fillings leak mercury and cause health problems,

 

You left out most of the important things I said about this topic. Typical tactic of someone trying to argue something they do not understand and have no real evidence to back their claims. I never said they do not leach. They do until all the mercury has leached out. My point is that people are claiming that mercury is still leaching decades after the got the amalgams. That I doubt. As far as the health problems, again you overlook the fact that we consume chelators on a daily basis. Tell me, why is it that we are not all dead from mercury poisoning as it is the second deadliest toxin (also untrue) according to you? After all mercury is in many sources of our food supply. According to your Chicken Little propaganda we should all be dead, or at least severely brain damaged.

 

you doubt that parasite cleanses have helped people

 

Again, this is not what I said. You keep embellishing what I said in an attempt to try and strengthen your argument. What I said is that parasitical infections are not as common as is being claimed and that some antiparasiticals have toxicity or other side effects. If someone actually has parasites then yes the proper herbs can help.

 

and you doubt that liver flushes work even though dozens of people have told you otherwise.

 

Dozens of people without any proof. Yet scientists have verified that they do not work. And one person on the liver flush support forum posted the results of the analysis of the so called stones that they sent off to a real lab for testing. The results? They WERE NOT REAL GALLSTONES. Instead of wasting my time and your time with your assumptions, why don’t you send your “stones” to a real lab and get them tested so you can prove they are not gallstones to yourself?

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