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"Can you show me some descriiptions of people interacting with them that would lead one to such a conclusion."
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"Generally, when someone is claimed to be enlightened, things end up happening to him."

Krishna,Ramakrishna,Ramana Maharshi,Nityanda,BabaJi,hundreds of others over time, most in INdia did not meet a bad end. I doubt Buddha or Osho was poisoned. Certainly not thallium or radiation which makes ones hair fall out.



"But it seems to me that anyone that claims they have become enlightened, are most probably not.
For it seems to me that once one becomes enlightened... then there is no longer anyone there who can claim it... if anything, the claim comes from others that come within close proximity to that individual, not from the enlightened himself... anyone that claims it still has ego... is still playing mind games... hence, Osho's laughing"

This is the phony gurus argument: I dont claim enlightenment because I have no ego.

Mostly all I ever see on these videos is somebody talking, I want to see something happening, Those that can do transmit shaktipat, those that cant talk a lot.