I mean the condition in this country is neither liberal nor conservative. The powers that be want to divide and conquer, and they have been very successful by making sure that we put labels on things. Liberals don't run the country - powermongers do. There's nothing liberal or conservative about them. Liberalism in the mainstream definition is anything but liberal. Try disagreeing with a "liberal." Ha! By mainstream definition Clinton is a liberal and Bush is a conservative. I don't buy either. I believe in conservatism in the true sense of the word. That does not exist in government today except for Ron Paul. And I can't understand how this discussion got into liberal and conservative. It has nothing to do with anything.