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SWF and salt in skin mahulda 8 y 428

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What can I do other than the SWF each day, I can taste salt in my skin, I've tried smoothe move in the am but I get terrible cramps and it's unpredidcitable when I need a tolite run. Is there anything that will not cause cramps and help me eliminate early and quickly.

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Modified Cleanse - DAY 1 #190877 10 y 2,490

Modified Cleanse - DAY 1

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Today is DAY 1 of my modified cleanse... I hope to complete at least 5 days on this cleanse.

First of all, I was wondering about the daily SWF. I'm not sure my intestines can handle it.. Can't it be a little harsh to be having that much liquid removed from the colon?

Well today is only DAY 1 and so far I'm not hungry. I do not have laxative tea, but last night I took some of Dr. Schultze Intestinal Formula #1. I was actually up all night but this afternoon on an empty stomach I did the SWF. Just about as it's prescribed with 2 TSP salt and 1 LITER warm water... I used Himalayan salt.

Eventually I finally went to sleep and then woke up to use the bathroom... I thought more would come out, but prior I had already had 2 movements from just taking the Formula #1 and not sleeping, so.......

I wonder if it's alright to take supplements on this cleanse, such as KELP and/or probiotics. Some might say to wait on the PROBIOTICS until the cleanse is over, huh? Then again, maybe it's good to replenish before the next SWF?

I also wanted to supplement with some Epsom Salt mixed with warm water sprayed onto my body (I don't have a bath).. I am wondering how that would work at this time..

BTW right now I just completed around 2 weeks of PARAGONE and am looking to continue cleansing with PARAGONE after this cleanse!!!

Today thankfully so far I have not been hungry and I only had one drink with about 1 TBSP. ACV instead of lemon juice, and 1/2 TSP. cayenne pepper. I skipped the sweetener, and if I do end up using sweetener I think it will be Blackstrap Mollasses.

I want to lose weight fast, BTW. Also I like to be healthy and clean, etc.

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- Re: Modified Cleanse - DAY 1 HealthyLifestyle 10 y 1,657
  
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  So I guess you can say that I have been using ACV instead of the lemon, and Wheat Germ instead of the syrup. HOWEVER~ the quantities so far have been very different I think also than what is typical. I have only had 1/2 TBSP. of the oil so far throughout the whole fast.. I also haven't had that many drinks with the cayenne and ACV... But other than water, those are the only things I have ingested (besides supplements, etc.) I am losing weight which is a big part of why I am doing this fast. And I am really thankful about that.
  
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replacing maple syrup with stevia #172969 11 y 931

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Hi guys I am 52 this is the first time I want to embark on the MC. I normally eat very healthy. My question is can I replace maple syrup with Stevia and also can I take some herbs like milk thistle and anti parasitic herbs while on the MC?

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Constipation on Master Cleanse moontiger 11 y 2,578

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Hello! This is my first post. I am wondering if anyone has any advice for me. I am day 5 (my last planned day of the master cleanse). This is how I've followed the MC:

day 1: SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) in the morning (w/epsom salt)in the morning, lemonade throughout the day and smooth move tea at night before bed.

day 2: I skipped the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) and had a PB shake in the morning, lemonade through the day,smooth move tea at night.
*the PB shake was 1 Tablespoon each and about 30-40 mLs water.

day 3: same as day two

day 4: same as day two except I used 1 tablespoon of the Bentonite and a tablespoon of the psyllium husk powder.

day 5: SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) using epsom salt, lemonade, and smooth move tea at night.

(I plan to do a Liver Flush tomorrow)

I am a little concerned that I have not had any large BMs since I've started. At first I got rid of lots of bile. I haven't been doing the SWF because they make me sick and don't seem to be helping. I did one today because I thought it might help the BMs at this point. By doing the BP shakes I figured my BMs should have some bulk to them but I only have one BM per day (in the morning) and it is mostly oily dark brown stuff that floats and a tiny bit of mucoid plaque (but only a tiny bit).
I'm not quite sure what I am doing wrong. Does anyone have any advice? Will it eventually all come out when I start eating regularly again? Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thank you :)

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- I know this is an old post but not sure why you ar... hayley3 11 y 2,095
  
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  I know this is an old post but not sure why you are doing BP on the Master Cleanse, your system is supposed to be resting. Salt water flush is very important too.
  I know this is an old post but not sure why you are doing BP on the Master Cleanse, your system is supposed to be resting. Salt water flush is very important too.
  
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If I haven't lost weight YET,... fantacyrose 12 y 753

If I haven't lost weight YET,...

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So this is day 5 for both my husband and I. The only modifications we have made is the addition of hoodia to help curb the hunger pangs, black coffee to ward off the migranes, and a veggie here and there to satisfy the urge to eat SOMETHING. This is my second attempt at this, the first time I did it by the book but felt crappy and didn't make it through the fifth day. Only last time, I did loose weight right away. This time I haven't lost any weight. I am wondering if my body just went right back to starvation mode and if that is the case, am I fasting for 10 days to loose a pound? I mean,...just being honest here, I'm not even sure if the cleansing aspect is legit (just sayin) and was mostly in it for the weight loss, and a change of eating habits. I guess I'm wondering if anyone has ever heard of someone not loosing weight at first then loosing in the latter half. I could use some encouragement. P.S. I want to believe in the healing benefits of cleansing.

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I'm doing the MC with protein powder. Randomness 12 y 2,955

I'm doing the MC with protein powder.

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I've done this cleanse so many times over the years from 3 days to 45.

I don't care what anyone says. Every friggen time I've lost muscle. I'm sure normal or average people don't notice but anyone who lifts weights has to. And I mean 50lbs+ in weights not 2lb dumbells. So yeah, plan on doing it and getting my 100+ grams of protein in via supplements.

Anyone else ever do this? Not looking to be talked out of it. I'm just curious really and ranting. I did this a few months ago for 2 weeks straight and my strength went down and I lost size and it took me a bit longer than I liked to get back what I lost. I also lost some fat with it which is great but it's the muscle I wanted to keep.

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- Re: I'm doing the MC with protein powder. frogerfly 11 y 1,955
  
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Green bowel movement #46844 12 y 2,622

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I'm on day 8 of the Master-Cleanse and this morning after I did the salt water flush and then drank a little of the lemonade, I passed what i saw on the toilet tissue as a bright green movement! I'm freaked out by this because I've never seen this before. I drank a strong berry herbal tea last night at a tea shop and did not drink the smooth move tea. I feel fine otherwise. Is this bile and is this a symptom that I am putting myself at risk of gall stones or something?

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- Bright yellow-green like neon? Yeah, normal. It’s ... Randomness 12 y 1,867
  
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  Bright yellow-green like neon? Yeah, normal. It’s also likely the herbal tea you drink. I’ve seen it especially with green tea.
  Bright yellow-green like neon? Yeah, normal. It's also likely the herbal tea you drink. I've seen it especially with green tea.
  
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- Sorry just realized this is a 4 month old thread. ... Randomness 12 y 1,836
  
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  Sorry just realized this is a 4 month old thread. LOL Curezone moves way too slow!
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  - Doesn’t matter how old a thread is. I still get us... Corey 12 y 2,007
    
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    Doesn’t matter how old a thread is. I still get use from some several years ago. Never know when your post might help someone.
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Day 2 of at least 10 goog 12 y 3,128

Day 2 of at least 10

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Seems like tIme for an Equinox Cleanse ... Spring Cleaning! Who else is cleansing now? Or soon?

I'm committing to 10 days, but depending on the vibes, might go longer.
My modifications are
- drinking some ozonated water first thing each day for morning hydration
and extra energy
- drinking 2 cups of kpmbucha per day for extra cleansing
- adding 2 tablespoons of MCT Oil (and leaving out 1/4 cup of maple syrup
per day) for extra energy and to reduce muscle loss.

Hopefully, these mods don't add much to digestive processes and do add more energy to my day. Mixing up lemonade with kombucha tastes great. Mixing in the MCT makes the whole batch oily and unpleasant texture-wise. So, I am just taking the MCT from a spoon twice a day which is easy enough.

If I still feel hunger by Day 4 or 5, I'll conclude that my digestion didn't shut down enough to make the cleanse worthwhile and I'll start abandoning the mods to see what does work for me, reverting to a strict MC, if needed.

Happy healing to all!

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- Day 6, cutting back on Colosan goog 12 y 2,604
  
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  I made another modification to the MC. Day 1 is the only day I did SWF. Starting with Day 2, I took 1 tsp of Colosan each morning with the idea that I will get extra intestinal cleansing from the peroxide scrubbing and dissolving power.
  
  Well, it works. I feel clean and get the requisite BMs. Seems like about the same total amount as with SWF, but spread out over the whole day, rather than all in about 2 hrs as with SWF. This was OK for for several days. On Day 6, though, the flushing has become too extreme. It is diarrhea-like. When I drink a lemonade, It comes screaming out the other end 20 minutes later, complete with mild nausea and that thrilling hot-pepper-on-the-anus effect.
  
  Is it a normal detox flush, or is it a too-much-colosan event? I don't know. I'll just ride it out, either way. Since I am absurdly well-flushed for this 24 hr period, and somewhat tired out, I think I will do no induced flushes for Day 7. Day 8 I'll either SWF, or say, try just 1/4 tsp Colosan to see what happens.
  
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  - Day 11, Ended. O2 good, Colosan good, MCT not so g... goog 12 y 2,808
    
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    Day 11, Ended. O2 good, Colosan good, MCT not so good.
    
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    All done. Orange juice never tasted so good.
    
    Fairly tame and moderate cleanse. Had face pimples and big tongue coatings on Days 2 & 3. Had notable intestinal purging on Days 5 & 6. Last few days feeling centered and meditative -- very nice rosy skin and cheek glow going on.
    
    I really liked adding oxygenated water to my early morning routine. It was a pleasant way to feel energetic without actually taking in any calories. It makes me "all tingly."
    
    I have mixed feelings about adding the MCT Oil. I liked that it helped with extra energy during the day, and did seem to help keep me physical active -- I even felt somewhat "pumped" after the mild exercise I was doing. This was an improvement from my usual tiredness during cleanses.
    
    It seems obvious to me now that when I took the the MCT, a bit of bile was released to process it. This had the effect of inducing a bowel movement. The small semi-solid BM obviously removed the day's accumulated waste, but was not a system-wide "flush" like one gets with a SWF, or with Colosan. I prefer a flush, as it seems more likely to clean intestinal walls and "free" the cilia. The MCT alone was sufficient to give the requisite daily BM, but trying to combine it with any other digestive flushing technique proved too much, distressing my system with diarrhea.
    
    It was surprisingly easy for me to transition back into solid foods. Today, I had OJ for breakfast, green smoothie for lunch, and am snacking on small meat pieces (wild venison) in afternoon -- without any ill effects, it seems right and good. I think that normally after a cleanse, it takes a little while for the digestive tract to get used to bile again, so one must come back slowly. Because of the MCT, I don't have that problem. Conclusion: MCT is counter to the goal of "giving digestion a rest."
    
    I liked using Colosan as an addition to the MC. It gave an extra and deeper measure of "cleanse," and served to replace the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) or laxative. It did not work well in combination with MCT Oil.
    
    I am moving into a Paleo-diet approach, eliminating dairy and starch from what I was doing, and probably also adopting some version of "calorie-restriction," too, because I think my body will feel good on this type of protocol. I plan to continue with oxygenated water daily, with MCT Oil daily, and with a 1 tsp per week Colosan treatment. On balance, MCT is not a good fast or cleanse addition for me. I will not use it again for that in the future. I would use O2 therapy and/or Colosan on future cleanses.
    
    Happy Cleansing!
    
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  Hi. Im on day 2 of at least 10days, too. I world love to try 30. But will see how it goes :)
  
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Kombucha as MC supplement ?? goog 12 y 3,123

Kombucha as MC supplement ??

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I am a huge kombucha fan. Kombucha contains glucuronic acid which is supposed to be one fantastic cellular cleanser in its own right. So wouldn't kombucha enhance the whole Master-Cleanse cleansing experience?

Has anyone tried Master-Cleanse with kombucha supplements? What was your experience?

Best regards.

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- I brewed kombucha for several months/years and... #136970 12 y 3,304
  
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  I brewed kombucha for several months/years and received absolutely no benefits from it at all. In fact during this time I developed Type II diabetes and I attribute some of that to kom ....
  
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  I brewed kombucha for several months/years and received absolutely no benefits from it at all. In fact during this time I developed Type II diabetes and I attribute some of that to kombucha which contains both sugar and alcohol. In fact the longer you brew it to lessen the sugar content, the greater the amount of alcohol it will contain.
  
  I've also practiced the Master Cleanse and found that I had to stop it because of the maple syrup which is not compatible with Type II.
  
  I was on a Yahoo user's group during my kombucha brewing experiences and they trashed anyone that tried to use anything other than sugar to brew the tea.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kombucha
  
  Normally, kombucha contains less than 0.5% alcohol, which classifies it as a non-alcoholic beverage. Older, more acidic, kombucha might contain 1.0% or 1.5% alcohol, depending on more anaerobic brewing time and higher proportions of sugar and yeast
  
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  - THank you for your comments. Sorry you had a bad ... goog 12 y 2,925
    
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    THank you for your comments. Sorry you had a bad experience. I brew my own kombucha, too, starting with sweet black tea. My understanding is that the kombucha culture is mixture of yeast and ....
    
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    THank you for your comments. Sorry you had a bad experience.
    
    I brew my own kombucha, too, starting with sweet black tea. My understanding is that the kombucha culture is mixture of yeast and bacteria. The yeast converts the Sugar to alcohol just as in homebrewed beer. The uniqueness of Kombi is the special bacteria which eats the alcohol and the caffeine, converting them to glucuronic acid. Properly steeped than brewed, the finished product has almost no sugar, almost no caffeine, and almost no alcohol. It all became glucuronic acid, by glorious natural alchemy!
    
    So, I have no worries (I am not diabetc). A little extra Sugar should not be a problem for this cleanse as there is way lots in the maple syrup already; and it is my belief that the remaining amounts of caffeine or alcohol are too slight to matter. The trick to getting alcohol-free kombucha is to keep it aerobic, by not sealing it up. The bacteria requires oxygen to do it's work. If you bottle up the finished product, to carbonate it, say, or to ship it to a grocery store in order to sell it, then the alcohol will build up, since in a sealed bottle without oxygen, the bacteria will stop working, but the yeast will continue to work. (That's how homebrewed beer and champagne get carbonated). To avoid all that: brew to completion, leave it in open jars and drink within a week or so (by which time the next batch is done).
    
    I am not talking about brewing kombi with maple syrup. I just propose, while on the MC, to drink a cup or two of kombucha tea each day as well, since it, too, is an effective cellular cleanser.
    
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MCT oil as an MC modification ?? goog 12 y 4,116

MCT oil as an MC modification ??

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I never heard of MCT (Medium Chain Triglycerides) oil before seeing it mentioned in some earlier posts on this forum, but I liked what I read. After a quick googling to learn more, the idea of supplementing a standard Master-Cleanse (Master Cleanse) with MCT oil is attractive to me.

As I understand it, MCT gets absorbed directly by the liver. This bypasses the gut digestive system (enzymes), and so seems consistent with Master-Cleanse philosophy. Because it converts directly to ACT, the cellular energy-storing protein, MCT might result in more energy (i.e, less fatigue) for the faster, and might encourage more fat-burning and weight loss (maybe desirable for some folks, maybe undesirable for others, maybe irrelevant for yet others -- in which case, don't use it, just stick to the basic protocol, as you like).

I am going to try it. I have not liked the low energy I have experienced on other MCs, and I would be happy with enhanced weight loss, too. (yes, I have read ALL the FAQ, thank you.) What dosage MCT, however?

Internet searches told me:

i) clinical trials of 15 to 28 ml /day over 12 weeks result in significant weight loss (8 lbs) when MCT replaces the same amount of fat given as olive oil to a control group.

ii) weight-lifter sites recommend 60 ml /day in 4 equal doses for lean muscle retention and fat loss when working out. People are actually gaining weight in muscle mass compared to control groups at this dosage -- that's just from product literature blurb, so take it or leave it.

iii) 15ml of MCT is 1 Tablespoon and about 100 calories. So, 60 ml would be 4 Tablespoons and 400 calories.

iv) Maple syrup is about 840 calories /cup. A 10 oz. Master-Cleanse drink is made with 2 tablespoons (1/8 of a cup) maple syrup. So, MC drinks are about 105 calories per drink. The MC protocol is for "up to" 12 drinks per day (1260 calories).

With that info, I can make an educated guess at what might be appropriate.

Say, I start out at 10 drinks per day (at 10 oz/drink thats 100 oz = 3.25 quarts total). I'd like then to get (this is arbitrary), say, 200 calories from MCT and roughly 800 calories from the maple syrup. My bulk recipe for one day, then would be,

20 tablespoon lemon juice = 10 oz. = 1.25 cups
2 tablespoons MCT oil
16 tablespoons maple syrup = 1 cup
1 teaspoon cayenne

which I then mix up with water to 3 quarts or so (bit more, actually).

So, that is what I propose to do for my next MC (modified), which I plan to start next weekend. I would like to hear other people experience in combining MCT with MC. Have you tried it? What quantities did you take? What was your experience on the fast?

Peace out.

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  Hi, I know this post was a few years ago, but I am on Day 12 of the Master Cleanse and I am feeling very low energy. I have done the MC a few times before and usually have not experienced this, ho ....
  
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  Hi, I know this post was a few years ago, but I am on Day 12 of The Master Cleanse and I am feeling very low energy. I have done the Master-Cleanse a few times before and usually have not experienced this, however I am much more overweight this go-round and I believe probably much more toxic. I just took a few tablespoons of MCT oil, and wanted to try adding this a day perhaps in place of a drink. It has only been an hour since I took it, but I seem to feel some more energy. It did make me almost immediately congested, which is weird. Does it interrupt the cleansing process? How did it work out for you??
  
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day 7 modified with heath food powders vegi stuff (green) and fruit stuff - red. going really well!

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I've moved to this forum because of my modifications to the MC. I've done about 3 to 4 10 day Master-Cleanse per year for the last 4 years.

Started Master-Cleanse last Sunday and decided to use green and red stuff powders produced by a popular nutritionist from NYC, also drink organic green tea during the day because I simply didn't want to suffer through caffeine withdrawal.

It's been GREAT! Lost 14 lbs so far. Feel good, decent energy. Still drink the Master-Cleanse lemonaide once a day.

So far so good. My goal is 10 days. I also had a rash on my lower legs, off and on, since the end of the summer and it's alleviating on this cleanse. I am using the lax tea in the AM and PM, so surprised that I still have BM's? Small but WOW. I may try the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) in the AM tomorrow.

Any feedback? Thanks, B.

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So far, no surprises. The SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) didn't work, which is usually typical of the first day. This is the plan. Tell me what you think:

Adding: 3 tsp. of coconut oil per day, working up to 1 tbsp. a day. Taken throughout the day to keep up my energy level.

Substituting: Molasses for maple syrup according to the book for blood Sugar issues. Using 3 tbsp. of coconut oil at night as a laxative instead of the senna tea, which causes me severe cramping. Plus, I'm fighting intestinal parasites, so the coconut oil will definitely help with that.

Adding: Two cups of morning coffee 1 hour after the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) to give it time to work. I am so addicted to caffeine, I can't give it up. Thought about taking pills, but that's 3 cups, and I want to slowly cut my intake so by the end of the first ten days, I'll be off completely. 2 cups is half of what I usually drink per day, so will probably get a little bit of a headache, but not as bad as if I went cold turkey. I have migraines anyway, so no use tempting fate.

Also adding supplements, because I have malabsorption disorder, so I have to have my vitamins or I get so lethargic, I can't function. I have to still work, so my brain has to have its nutrients.

I'm going to modify the fast after day 10 by adding veggie broth, starting with 1 cup per day and working up to 3 per day until day 21, then I will wean off as the book prescribes, with the soup, etc.

I'm also doing sweats, by going outside and walking when it's hot but not too hot. Don't want to pass out. If it gets too hard to walk, I'll just sit and read outside. The sweat will be followed by a dip in the pool. I figure this will help take the toxins out through my skin instead of my kidneys. Enough of the crap is going to be going through them.

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replacing maple syrup with stevia

Constipation on Master Cleanse

I know this is an old post but not sure why you are doing BP on the Master Cleanse, your system is supposed to be resting. Salt water flush is very important too.

Master Cleanse Secret

If I haven't lost weight YET,...

I'm doing the MC with protein powder.

Re: I'm doing the MC with protein powder.

Green bowel movement

Bright yellow-green like neon? Yeah, normal. It’s also likely the herbal tea you drink. I’ve seen it especially with green tea.

Sorry just realized this is a 4 month old thread. LOL Curezone moves way too slow!

Doesn’t matter how old a thread is. I still get use from some several years ago. Never know when your post might help someone.

Day 2 of at least 10

Day 6, cutting back on Colosan

Day 11, Ended. O2 good, Colosan good, MCT not so good.

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Kombucha as MC supplement ??

I brewed kombucha for several months/years and received absolutely no benefits from it at all. In fact during this time I developed Type II diabetes and I attribute some of that to kom ....

THank you for your comments. Sorry you had a bad experience. I brew my own kombucha, too, starting with sweet black tea. My understanding is that the kombucha culture is mixture of yeast and ....

MCT oil as an MC modification ??

Hi, I know this post was a few years ago, but I am on Day 12 of the Master Cleanse and I am feeling very low energy. I have done the MC a few times before and usually have not experienced this, ho ....

day 7 modified with heath food powders vegi stuff (green) and fruit stuff - red. going really well!

Day one of 30-day Modified MC