I do not believe what we are experiencing with the Bowel Cleanse is mucoid plaque.
I am on the fourth day of BH and up until today have been getting a lot of wastes that look the same as all of the photos of MP on this forum. I have fasted the whole time.
I have read hundreds of posts in this forum and got the impression that what is coming out is all mucoid plaque and that it was stuck to some portion of the intestine and that the cleanse loosened it.
The shakes that we are consuming solidify in our stomach and small intestine. The volume that we drink is the volume that must be discharged. My guess is that about 95% of what we excrete is the solidied shakes and not some weird looking rope that has been in our intestine for years.
The mucous and what is on the outside of it was in our intestines. The rubbery part is the solidified shake. The solidified shake takes on the shape of the small intestine thereby forming the irregular rope look.
Everyone says that they do not lose weight when on a bowel cleanse. What has come out of me over the last 4 days must have weighed 9 or 10 pounds. It only makes sense that most of that was the solidified shake otherwise I would have lost 9 or 10 pounds. I haven't lost any weight.
If this is true then we are being misled as to what we are experiencing.
Now there is absolutely nothing wrong with getting some mucous and small chunks of waste out of your system. But don't be misled into believing that those ropes were blocking your digestion. The ropes are the solidified shakes.
BH could not get $90 for something that only collects mucous.
I've done other p*b cleanses/shakes and didn't get out mucoid plaque AT ALL. Plus, the shape of the mucoid plaque is the same shape as the intestines. I just don't buy into that because someone would have to explain precisely and exactly how and why some p&b cleanses work, why some others don't, and why the crap I passed on BH looked like sausage casings with junk inside (just like some pics I've seen). I have considered this but dismissed it because of what I indicated. You aren't really giving a good reason to believe what you are saying other than that is your opinion because you havn't lost weight.
When I did a two week total fast a month ago, I started out by taking psyllium and Bentonite from the store....got a tiny amount of mucoid plaque out on the second day. I kept taking the store purchased stuff for a week....the stuff that I passed was just psyllium powder and bentonite. They were solid stools that looked pretty much like any stool. But when I started taking the BH, then is when I started passing mucoid plaque. If what you are saying is true, then any old p&b shake should do what you are saying. Besides that, the digestive stimulater is a very small amount compared to what I was taking when I took the store bought p&b shakes. Also, when I took the BH stuff, I could tell the difference between the fiber/apple juice part of the bowel movement and the mucoid plaque.
That is quite possible that its the shakes being solidified in our bowel, A very reasonable hypothesis.
I wondered also why if people were getting all this mucoid plaque out, why they didnt lose a lot of weight at the same time.
However, I am also curious as to why these 'ropes' come out in long pieces. Psylium doesnt harden that much in the intestines and could easily break apart after the bowel movement. It doesnt stay in one piece. Now you might say that it could be the herbs that make it stick together but I cant imagine that most of these herbs that are used as a laxative would bind something up so tight that it would form 'ropes'. I would imagine that would be painful.
Another thing that I thought of was why these 'ropes' were black! Psyliom is NOT black and you are fasting so there is nothing that you are eating that is black so what could possibly turn them black? The herbs maybe, but there arent really enough herbs to turn all these lengths of 'rope' black.
I dont know. I am not saying that you are wrong but its really something that many people who have passed this mucoid plaque claim that its a real thing as well as many noted health benefits to doing these cleanses. That is a good reason to be hopeful anyway. Its is good to have a skeptical mind though and we shouldnt take everything people say as 100% truth but we also need something to back up what we believe as well. Maybe experimenting with it yourself would give some more evidence to your ideas.
I understand doubt - it’s a good thing. One should not have blind faith but be inquisitive, analytical, look for reason and real understanding. So, I’m cool with your question. Bring it on.
I d ....
I understand doubt - it's a good thing. One should not have blind faith but be inquisitive, analytical, look for reason and real understanding. So, I'm cool with your question. Bring it on.
I did the BH cleanse and others. As a scientist, I took it, analyzed it. It is just scientifically impossible for the black ropes to be formed by the P &B in such short periods of time. If you take the ropes, cut them in half, you can see the difference. Plus the outer, black coating is full of dead cells, and such a wide variety of substances not in the shakes. Further, I didn't do this but others have done chemical age tests, showing that the age of substance can test years old.
When I did the cleanse, I had BMs that were just the shake mixture, unformed and grayish - very different from the ropes. I've also done colonics where pieces of mucoid plaque came out identical to the BH cleanse long after any use of P &B.
Do you have some real data or info to suggest that the ropes aren't mucoid plaque?
If you doubt - that's great, but then, seek further, follow through your questions.
Find real answers. This is good, we should all do that.
Continue on your journey and always seek to learn as much as possible.
yes, you have some good points there. I have never myself examines any MP but when you think about it the black colour doesmake sense. Consider a very constipated person, their bowel movements cou ....
yes, you have some good points there. I have never myself examines any MP but when you think about it the black colour doesmake sense. Consider a very constipated person, their bowel movements could be very dark to black and hard as well as hard to pass, so why would it be impossible to conclude that MP could exist? Mp has similar qualities by the sound of it.
anyway we need skeptics or we would be just a bunch of idiots.
Oh, and I forgot one thing. When I did the BH cleanse, I lost 10 pounds. So, that answers your question on that. I would wait until your done with the cleanse to test your weight loss. Some people ....
Oh, and I forgot one thing. When I did the BH cleanse, I lost 10 pounds. So, that answers your question on that. I would wait until your done with the cleanse to test your weight loss. Some people (I don't have this particular issue) actually become bloated and gassy from psyllium. This could be why you haven't lost weight. When you conclude the cleanse and get off the psyllium for a few days, you may find a sudden drop in your weight from the cleanse. A possible answer, anyway.
Well thats good that you lost weight! I’m sure all that gunk must weigh something. But there have been people thta have said they didnt lose anything. I really cant understand why gas would be the ....
Well thats good that you lost weight! I'm sure all that gunk must weigh something. But there have been people thta have said they didnt lose anything. I really cant understand why gas would be the cause of not losing weight, after all its gas!
The MP starts coming out rubbery. That was the first consistency of my MP. After the second day, the MP was darker rope. Toward the end, I was getting MP that was more like tar. I also got some t ....
The MP starts coming out rubbery. That was the first consistency of my MP. After the second day, the MP was darker rope. Toward the end, I was getting MP that was more like tar. I also got some that was layered...some dark green with black winding all the way through it and around it...Some tar, some rubbery, some very soft and weak. BH cannot change it's properties like that.
In order for BH to be MP, it would have to sit in the same place in the intestines for a long enough period of time to reshape itself to the contours of the intestines. If it did that, it would probably do that early on....wouldn't the first BH take shape at the beginning of the intestines, move downward when you take more and then the new dose of BH would take the exact same shape at the beginning of the intestines? That would cause all of the MP to have the exact same shape...Like a MP fingerprint. I don't know about anybody else who's tried it, but all mine looked different...I even have BLOG photos to prove it.
If we were to assume that BH is going through the body and coming out masquarading as aged MP, that would only mean that it is dragging out lots of stuff anyway...like that nasty tar. In that case, I disagree about the arguement that $90.00 is too much to spend to just get MP along the sides of the intestines. You really don't think that's worth it? I don't want bicycle innertupes lining in my intestines about as much as I don't want ropes stuck to my intestines...The way I see it, it's the same difference. If it makes me better...it's worth it. Period.
"The mucous and what is on the outside of it was in our intestines. The rubbery part is the solidified shake. The solidified shake takes on the shape of the small intestine thereby forming the irregular rope look"
The black stuff and the mucous and other chunks was in the intestine and it stuck to the BH.
I have worked with Bentonite over the past 25 years. It is used to treat certain toxic wastes and when mixed with local clays makes an excellent liner in a landfill.
Bentonite has the physical characteristic of being able to absorb about 10 times its weight in water. When mixed with other compounds you can make various liquids solidify in a matter of minutes.
I was on the golf course the other day and mixed a packet of BH with a half bottle of water (I didn't have any apple juice). I wasn't able to drink it right away and when I did it was already starting to gel.
I am a chemical engineer - which in this situation doesn't mean much I know. But I know bentonite. It does not just disappear when it has absorbed water. Even though the packet only contains a few ounces of powder, it turns into many ounces of a gelatinous substance when mixed with the right amounts of water.
What goes in must come out!
Let me emphasize, I am very glad that I did the BH cleanse. I believe that it was very beneficial and I will do it again.
But I believe that the great percentage of our bowel movements that we have during one of these cleanses is what we are drinking.
Re: Mental and physical illnesses are caused by something, and we need to find out what...
Wow, this is kind of insulting to me. Curezone seems to have this animosity for doctors and I'm not sure why. Way to ruin my dreams of being a psychiatrist.
we’re just stating the facts. If that makes you not want to be a psychiatrist that’s a healthy sign.
If you can make it through all that schooling with your heart, and not turn into ”one of the ....
we're just stating the facts. If that makes you not want to be a psychiatrist that's a healthy sign.
If you can make it through all that schooling with your heart, and not turn into "one of them" those only interested in pharmacology or talk therapy, maybe you can change the system for the better.
It's best you learn where you stand now before you waste all that time and money to become someone who is a glorified drug pusher.
You can do that with a bachelors degree as a pharmaceuticals rep.
Become a nurse in only a few years and you can really care for people and make good money.
Why do you want to become a doctor? My son just wanted a nice car with plates that impress.
I want to be a doctor to help people, I believe human beings like ourselves were made to help other less fortunate people. Oh yea and I think you guys should seriously research on your facts instead of watching Scientology propaganda.
I showed this thread to open-minded people who have a diversity of knowledge in the medical field, here's what one replied after seeing this video *and he's seen it way before I showed it to him too*
"That video is from the CCHR-a front group for the Church of Scientology. I've seen that video, in its entirety. Its a piece of propagandist & unfairly presented data, with every bit of shock value intentionally added to it such as gory music & dark pictures when psychiatrists are interviewed, and then happy music when CCHR members are interviewed.
Several of the doctors in that video are not credible research doctors. Several doctors in there are, but their comments are taken out of context. For example, one of the psychiatirst in the video, I've met personally and he doesn't back CCHR in any way shape or form. He was interviewed for several minutes & they only took a few moments out his interview--the moments that they could splice that they could exploit.
Is it true that there aren't lab tests in psychiatry? Yes and no. We use behaviors we gauge, and obtain history from interviews, but we also rule out medical causes of mental illness such as for example hypothyroidism. We use a urine drug screen for example to rule out drug induced psychosis. There is for example no specific lab test that can prove or disprove if a patient is depressed. However any medstudent knows this is true of several medical disorders, psychiatric or not.
We often base diagnosis on clusters of symptoms which several medical professions do because they too are in a state where labs tests cannot yet diagnose their disorders. E.g. Still's disease-a disease that affects the kidneys? Would CCHR, Szasz or the Church of Scientology then keep consistent with their logic & deny the existence of Still's disease?
Take for example Lupus. It too is diagnosed based on clusters of symptoms.
Diabetes too was once diagnosed based on clusters of symptoms & not lab tests because the science from decades ago was not yet advanced enough to dx it. Doctors often had to resort to tasting urine, & had to have a sensitive palate to be able to detect it. Does that disprove diabetes existed before the advent of modern testing methods?
As for psychiatry--yes we're not at that point yet where we can apply lab tests for much of it. Does that invalidate mental illness? Well look at it this way. 100 years ago when blood sugar tests were not yet available, would that prove that diabetes did not exist?
And as a contradiction to their own argument--they criticize psychiatry for lack of lab tests--but at the same time, for psychiatry to get a proper lab test created--research into psychiatric illness, on the order that CCHR demands would involve invasive lab testing into human subjects' brains. E.g. drilling holes into the brains of people mentally ill to gauge neurotransmitter levels & such. Yet they criticize research that was once done in that area decades ago before proper human rights have been identified to protect subjects & blame psychiatry for engaging in it.
As for Thomas S. Szasz, he's associated himself with CCHR which is a known front group for the Church of Scientology and he basically advocates that there's no such thing as mental illness, but at the same time offers treatment for it.
It is completely true that sometimes patients get involuntarily committed due to errors in the system. Just like cops sometimes detain suspects who turn out to not be guilty, just like people who are suspected of carrying Ebola might get quarantined, even if it turned out they were not carrying it. Is that unfair? Of course it is. However the right way to handle it is to have 3rd party evaluation, anonymous whistle blowing oppurtunities, mental health advocates & under cover investigators frequently double check institutions that engage in involuntary hospitalization to make sure the system is working fairly. That is going on and I fully advocate that such measures be put into place, and that any psychiatrists who are unfairly holding patients without justifiable cause be pointed out & dealt with, just like a crooked cop should be brought out.
If you want to allow the mentally ill to walk free, even those that are dangerous to others--ok fine, then let that guy infected with Ebola walk around, give people the freedom to buy, sell & eat rotten meat without inspection & let murderers go free because they should have the right to kill who they want, we won't need any police officers arresting anyone. "
I have to say, I think his post had pretty valid points, more so than that video. Seriously, didn't anyone else think the former video was either too staged or cheezy anyway? With all those affects and such, that's just another thing to add but I guess that's what propaganda is.
You’re not stating any facts at all, what you are doing is spreading folly propaganda and raising the delusional paranoia of the anti-psychiatrist industry. There is thread about this very topic f ....
You're not stating any facts at all, what you are doing is spreading folly propaganda and raising the delusional paranoia of the anti-psychiatrist industry. There is thread about this very topic from here in a student doctor forum, you would all do well to check it out and perhaps if you can prove yourself to be right, sign up and prove these non-biased people by giving concrete statements instead of ad hominems and straw hats. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=563750
""" Curezone seems to have this animosity for doctors and I'm not sure why."""
You may want to re-read the motto/slogan, whatever you call it.
""EDUCATING INSTEAD OF MEDICATING""
I fell bad for anyone with ambitions of wanting to help people and believe that it can be done through the psychiatric profession.
Psychiatrists have the highest suicide rate of any profession.
The reason could be that its not possible to really help people through psychiatry.
There is another statistic regarding this profession and that is the number of students entering college to become one has been plummeting each year.
If you were to look into it you will probably find that there would be few in your company if you were to roll down that fateful slope.
The real deal has been slowly creeping into the forefront regarding these guys, and its not pretty.
this is possibly the most b******ded post i’ve ever read. there are so many erroneous statements here i’m at a loss as to where to begin. lets start with the opening line:
1) ”...the root cause ....
this is possibly the most b******ded post i've ever read. there are so many erroneous statements here i'm at a loss as to where to begin. lets start with the opening line:
1) "...the root cause of each person's illness is to cure it, not just treat the symptoms."
not true. in medicine there are a number of diseases; diabetes, asthma, alzheimer's disease, pretty much any genetic disorder (and there are hundreds of them) that we cannot cure, and yes in fact simply treat the symptoms.
2) "candida"
so i presume you work in a prison/hospital and see "candida" on everybodys tongue, therefore you conclude candida is the cause of whatever mental disorder they suffer from. i assume most of your patients have feet too, why not blame their feet for their problems?
first of all, white crap on somebodys tongue does not equal candida, candida is a fungal infection, usually found in the immunocompromised or diabetics, and it is a specific diagnosis confirmed via cultures of tongue scrapings. i too work in a hospital, see dozens of mentally ill people everyday, and have seen only 2 confirmed cases of candida so far this year.
3) "Psychiatrists have the highest suicide rate of any profession"
physicians in general, not psychiatrists specifically, have the highest suicide rate per profession. but you know what population has an even higher suicide rate? untreated mentally ill males.
4) " number of students entering college to become one has been plummeting each year"
again false. check the electronic residency application service ( aamc.org )
which matches graduating med students to residency programs and you'll find the number of psychiatry residency applicants is actually increasing every year.
the fact is that mental illnesses are complex disorders best approached from a biological, psychological, and social perspective. the interplay of these three factors are key in determining a persons succeptibility to mental illness. why is it that one guy loses his job and simply gets bummed out for a few days while another has a complete mental breakdown?
unlike many other fields of medicine we can't simply hook somebody up to an EKG or order a blood test to answer that question. this frustrates and confuses many simple minded people, like the original poster, and so they seek out simpler explainations regardless of how m*o*o*nic they may be (ie candida). i'm getting bored typing this so i assume you must be getting bored reading this, so let me end by saying if you're going to attempt to discuss a scientific topic please at least READ some scientific texts first and don't just spout whatever nonsense rolls off the top of your head.
You are the reason this site was generated. This site is for people who were abused and neglected by the medical system you worship. It's too late for the ones your system killed.
What are you here for? No one paid you. Didn't you get enough joy hurting people today?
You are the sick one. That's why people like you get into psychiatry. Go back to pushing drugs on killzone.com/tota.
”You are the total m*o*o*n”
ha! great response einstein. um, you failed to address any of the fallacies you posted that i so kindly pointed out to you were blatantly wrong.
i do not ”worship” ....
"You are the total m*o*o*n"
ha! great response einstein. um, you failed to address any of the fallacies you posted that i so kindly pointed out to you were blatantly wrong.
i do not "worship" the medical system, i respect the scientific method as a means to better understand ourselves and the world around us. Why am i here? because i believe ignorance is a bad thing and i feel sorry for any confused souls who may stumble upon these scientologist/cult propaganda videos you've posted and get mislead by them.
you're obviously not too bright and incapable of making an intelligent argument so please don't view my posts as an attempt to engage you in debate. but to anyone who happens to come across this page, don't believe the hype! this is pure propaganda and fear mongering. there are enough reputable websites around with information about medicine that are backed by REAL science. this guy is just a paranoid freak with a computer.
The Science Delusion - Rupert Sheldrake at TEDx Whitechapel
Rupert Sheldrake, Ph.D. (born 28 June 1942) is a biologist and author of more than 80 scientific papers and ten books. A former Research Fellow of the Royal Society, he studied natural sciences at Cambridge University, where he was a Scholar of Clare College, took a double first class honours degree and was awarded the University Botany Prize. He then studied philosophy and history of Science at Harvard University, where he was a Frank Knox Fellow, before returning to Cambridge, where he took a Ph.D. in biochemistry. He was a Fellow of Clare College, Cambridge, where he was Director of Studies in biochemistry and cell biology. As the Rosenheim Research Fellow of the Royal Society, he carried out research on the development of plants and the ageing of cells in the Department of Biochemistry at Cambridge University.
While at Cambridge, together with Philip Rubery, he discovered the mechanism of polar auxin transport, the process by which the plant hormone auxin is carried from the shoots towards the roots.
From 1968 to 1969, based in the Botany Department of the University of Malaya, Kuala Lumpur, he studied rain forest plants. From 1974 to 1985 he was Principal Plant Physiologist and Consultant Physiologist at the International Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics (ICRISAT) in Hyderabad, India, where he helped develop new cropping systems now widely used by farmers. While in India, he also lived for a year and a half at the ashram of Fr Bede Griffiths in Tamil Nadu, where he wrote his first book, A New Science of Life.
From 2005-2010 he was the Director of the Perrott-Warrick Project funded from Trinity College,Cambridge. He is a Fellow of Schumacher College , in Dartington, Devon, a Fellow of the Institute of Noetic Sciences near San Francisco, and a Visiting Professor at the Graduate Institute in Connecticut.
He lives in London with his wife Jill Purce and two sons.
He has appeared in many TV programs in Britain and overseas, and was one of the participants (along with Stephen Jay Gould, Daniel Dennett, Oliver Sacks, Freeman Dyson and Stephen Toulmin) in a TV series called A Glorious Accident, shown on PBS channels throughout the US. He has often taken part in BBC and other radio programmes. He has written for newspapers such as the Guardian, where he had a regular monthly column, The Times, Sunday Telegraph, Daily Mirror, Daily Mail, Sunday Times, Times Educational Supplement, Times Higher Education Supplement and Times Literary Supplement, and has contributed to a variety of magazines, including New Scientist, Resurgence, the Ecologist and the Spectator.
Books by Rupert Sheldrake:
A New Science of Life: The Hypothesis of Formative Causation (1981). New edition 2009 (in the US published as Morphic Resonance)
The Presence of the Past: Morphic Resonance and the Habits of Nature (1988)
The Rebirth of Nature: The Greening of Science and God (1992)
Seven Experiments that Could Change the World: A Do-It-Yourself Guide to Revolutionary Science (1994) (Winner of the Book of the Year Award from the British Institute for Social Inventions)
Dogs that Know When Their Owners are Coming Home, and Other Unexplained Powers of Animals (1999) (Winner of the Book of the Year Award from the British Scientific and Medical Network)
The Sense of Being Stared At, And Other Aspects of the Extended Mind (2003)
The Science Delusion (2012, published in the US as Science Set Free)
This is a good blogpost that I mostly agree with which talks about how adrenal glands don't fatigue from stress and that AF is a bogus condition and is not excepted by conventional medicine as a diagnosis.
I've started alerting people about this after recently changing my mind on AF because if nothing is wrong with your adrenal glands, then trying to "rebuild" them with supplements and stuff would be a futile effort that's wasting your money and possibly making you worse and is also misdirecting you to what the root causes of your symptoms actually are.
A thread was posted here awhile back showed that the symptoms attributed to "AF" are exactly the same as the symptoms of Anorexia/Starvation:
This furthered what I had been suspecting for awhile that a lot of people's problems here are the result of calorie-restriction and malnutrition and it also started to make me think differently about AF to which I recently now agree with conventional medicine that AF is a bogus condition.
It doesn't mean we are not experiencing those symptoms that have been attributed to AF. I just means our adrenal glands are functioning fine (that's why most people here have high cortisol levels) and they aren't a factor in our health problems unless someone has the legitimate medical condition of Adrenal Insufficiency where your adrenals are actually damaged.
To me, "AF" is code for malnutrition and I would start there as to what is causing all those symptoms.
Is there such a thing as adrenal fatigue?
The term often shows up in popular health books and on alternative medicine websites, but it isn't an accepted medical diagnosis. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/adrenal-fatigue/AN01583
There is no scientific evidence supporting the concept of adrenal fatigue and it is not recognized as an actual diagnosis by the medical community.
The concept of adrenal fatigue has given rise to an industry of dietary supplements marketed to treat this condition. These supplements are largely unregulated in the U.S., are ineffective, and in some cases may be dangerous. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenal_fatigue
General adaptation syndrome, or GAS, is a term used to describe the body's short-term and long-term reactions to stress.
Stressors in humans include such physical stressors as starvation, being hit by a car, or suffering through severe weather. http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/general+adaptation+syndrome
LOL!
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2071843#i
Can a mod unban me from the AF section? This seems to be the only section I can’t post in and it’s the only health problem of mine remainin ....
Respected integrative medical doctor, Dr. Andrew Weil, doesn’t buy into AF either:
”Adrenal exhaustion” and ”adrenal fatigue” are popular diagnoses among alternative medicine practitioners but ....
Respected integrative medical doctor, Dr. Andrew Weil, doesn't buy into AF either:
"Adrenal exhaustion" and "adrenal fatigue" are popular diagnoses among alternative medicine practitioners but are not recognized in conventional medicine. They are often made by people not qualified by medical training (including nutritionists, chiropractors, massage therapists and health food store clerks) and are unlikely to be valid. Symptoms of adrenal exhaustion are usually vague and non-specific - fatigue, lack of energy, depression, weight problems, and insomnia. It is conceivable that very severe stress (resulting from a prolonged illness, for example) could lead to an adrenal imbalance, but I'm not sure that there is any physiological basis for the notion that everyday stress can ever "exhaust" the adrenals. Some treatments recommended for this questionable condition usually are innocuous - rest, stress reduction, a healthy diet, and vitamin/mineral supplements. Others are not, especially adrenal glandular products. I strongly advise against taking any supplements that contain adrenal glandular tissue. (In fact, never take any over-the-counter glandular supplements.) At best, they are unnecessary; at worst, dangerous. They can disrupt the body's hormonal balance, which is maintained by a delicate and interconnected set of controls. http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA354425
Dr. oz seems open to it, but admits there is no scientific proof it exists. He also mentions women get "AF" symptoms more than men which supports my belief that "AF" symptoms are really just signs of malnutrition/starvation because women have eating disorders more than men do.
Today a growing number of complementary medicine practitioners believe daily stress has thrown our adrenal glands completely out of whack, causing an epidemic of extreme exhaustion known as adrenal fatigue syndrome. Yet the mainstream medical community has not embraced the theory since there is no scientific proof it actually exists.
Here’s a pro-AF article that even lists malnutrition as a cause:
What are the causes of adrenal fatigue?
- Events or situations that place enormous burden on the body, such as major surgery, l ....
Here's a pro-AF article that even lists malnutrition as a cause:
What are the causes of adrenal fatigue?
- Events or situations that place enormous burden on the body, such as major surgery, long-term malnutrition, or being addicted to drugs. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/245810.php
New Fact Sheets Dispel Myths of Adrenal Fatigue and Wilson’s Temperature Syndrome
The Hormone Foundation, the public education affiliate of The Endocrine Society, has produced two new fact shee ....
New Fact Sheets Dispel Myths of Adrenal Fatigue and Wilson’s Temperature Syndrome
The Hormone Foundation, the public education affiliate of The Endocrine Society, has produced two new fact sheets to dispel myths about so-called “diseases” popularized through the Internet: adrenal fatigue and Wilson’s temperature syndrome. The new fact sheets are available online at: http://www.hormone.org/public/myths_facts.cfm.
Myth vs. Fact: Adrenal Fatigue describes the theory behind this supposed disorder in which long-term mental, emotional or physical stress outstrips the adrenal glands’ ability to produce enough hormones. The fact sheet refutes this theory and warns against taking potentially harmful supplements designed to “treat” adrenal fatigue. It also differentiates adrenal fatigue from adrenal insufficiency, a real and rare condition in which the adrenal cortex does not produce enough steroid hormones. Adrenal insufficiency is not caused by mental or physical stress.
Myth vs. Fact: Wilson’s Temperature Syndrome outlines a theory by E. Denis Wilson, M.D., that states that stress and illness can lead to low levels of the active thyroid hormone T3, resulting in low body temperature and slow metabolism, along with multiple non-specific symptoms. The fact sheet provides an objective review of Dr. Wilson’s claims, including the fact that blood tests do not detect this supposed hormone deficiency. It also advises against taking Dr. Wilson’s T3 (WT3), a time-release formulation of T3 prepared in compounding pharmacies.
Adrenal Fatigue exist dude. I had the ACTH Stimulation Test done at Mayo Clinic, and my adrenals failed to double. That is the gold standard test. Case closed.
Adrenal Fatigue exist dude. I had the ACTH Stimulation Test done at Mayo Clinic, and my adrenals failed to double. That is the gold standard test. Case closed.
Guys...
Let’s just leave him alone....don’t give him any attention.
It looks like he may be banned from the support forums....finally.
He only seems to be posting in the debate forums, wh ....
Nothing. They sent me home, and that was it. 80% or more of the adrenals have to be damaged for a diagnosis of Adrenal Insufficiency. Mayo would never dare call it Adrenal Fatigue.
Nothing. They sent me home, and that was it. 80% or more of the adrenals have to be damaged for a diagnosis of Adrenal Insufficiency. Mayo would never dare call it Adrenal Fatigue.
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