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Can a mod unban me from the AF section? This seems to be the only section I can't post in and it's the only health problem of mine remaining. Thanks.

Now, one thing was can be sure of is that Toxic Hunger does not exist. Adrenal Fatigue does.

Respected integrative medical doctor, Dr. Andrew Weil, doesn't buy into AF either:

"Adrenal exhaustion" and "adrenal fatigue" are popular diagnoses among alternative medicine practitioners but are not recognized in conventional medicine. They are often made by people not qualified by medical training (including nutritionists, chiropractors, massage therapists and health food store clerks) and are unlikely to be valid. Symptoms of adrenal exhaustion are usually vague and non-specific - fatigue, lack of energy, depression, weight problems, and insomnia. It is conceivable that very severe stress (resulting from a prolonged illness, for example) could lead to an adrenal imbalance, but I'm not sure that there is any physiological basis for the notion that everyday stress can ever "exhaust" the adrenals. Some treatments recommended for this questionable condition usually are innocuous - rest, stress reduction, a healthy diet, and vitamin/mineral supplements. Others are not, especially adrenal glandular products. I strongly advise against taking any supplements that contain adrenal glandular tissue. (In fact, never take any over-the-counter glandular supplements.) At best, they are unnecessary; at worst, dangerous. They can disrupt the body's hormonal balance, which is maintained by a delicate and interconnected set of controls.
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA354425



Dr. oz seems open to it, but admits there is no scientific proof it exists. He also mentions women get "AF" symptoms more than men which supports my belief that "AF" symptoms are really just signs of malnutrition/starvation because women have eating disorders more than men do.

Today a growing number of complementary medicine practitioners believe daily stress has thrown our adrenal glands completely out of whack, causing an epidemic of extreme exhaustion known as adrenal fatigue syndrome. Yet the mainstream medical community has not embraced the theory since there is no scientific proof it actually exists.

Many Americans, especially women, suffer symptoms of extreme exhaustion in today’s busy world.
http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/adrenal-fatigue-syndrome-real-medical-condition


Women are more likely than men to have eating disorders.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/eatingdisorders.html

New Fact Sheets Dispel Myths of Adrenal Fatigue and Wilson’s Temperature Syndrome

The Hormone Foundation, the public education affiliate of The Endocrine Society, has produced two new fact sheets to dispel myths about so-called “diseases” popularized through the Internet: adrenal fatigue and Wilson’s temperature syndrome. The new fact sheets are available online at: http://www.hormone.org/public/myths_facts.cfm.


Myth vs. Fact: Adrenal Fatigue describes the theory behind this supposed disorder in which long-term mental, emotional or physical stress outstrips the adrenal glands’ ability to produce enough hormones. The fact sheet refutes this theory and warns against taking potentially harmful supplements designed to “treat” adrenal fatigue. It also differentiates adrenal fatigue from adrenal insufficiency, a real and rare condition in which the adrenal cortex does not produce enough steroid hormones. Adrenal insufficiency is not caused by mental or physical stress.

Myth vs. Fact: Wilson’s Temperature Syndrome outlines a theory by E. Denis Wilson, M.D., that states that stress and illness can lead to low levels of the active thyroid hormone T3, resulting in low body temperature and slow metabolism, along with multiple non-specific symptoms. The fact sheet provides an objective review of Dr. Wilson’s claims, including the fact that blood tests do not detect this supposed hormone deficiency. It also advises against taking Dr. Wilson’s T3 (WT3), a time-release formulation of T3 prepared in compounding pharmacies.

https://www.endocrine.org/news-room/press-release-archives/2010/new-fact-shee...

I hope people read this thread before they start thinking they have this "AF" and start spending tons of money trying to "strengthen" their adrenals.

Very interesting. Now I'm not totally convinced either way. First of all there is a very good possibility that what natural health practitioners are calling Adrenal Fatigue is something else other than Adrenal Insufficiency. The way that stress effects the body can be quite unique and vary based on constitution, activity, environment, job, nutrition etc. However, to state nutrition as the only input is probably a mistake.
There is also a tendency, and I sensed this in the article, that the medical establishment recognizes what they know only. This is fair though because if there is another condition it needs to be established and researched.
The other possible bias speaks to the point that the medical community does not recognize chronic subclinical imbalances nor do they actively, as a collective seek to prevent or treat subclinical imbalances.

Modern humans stay in flight or fight mostly because of synthetic stressors that simply come with our conveniences, technology and work flow. This causes the adrenals to be more engaged than they have been in human history. This constant release of cortisol and flooding of glucose would in fact negatively effect the Adrenal/Pituitary/Thyroid axis. Causing one or more of these glands to be overworked or suppressed in their duties.
What name we call this if it is not Adrenal Fatigue might be less important than the existence of the issue but using the scientific method to verify any of this is the most responsible thing.
For these types of studies to be done. The medical research community must have some type of incentive for researching preventive measure that MIGHT NOT LEAD TO A BILLION DOLLAR DRUG. It must be looked into simply for the good of our fellow man.

I agree with the Adrenal Fatigue diagnosis made by my nutritionist because:
1. It happened after I was staying awake for 20 to 30 hours at a time, for a week at a time, for my job.
2. When it initially happened, I had pain in my arms for weeks, indicating low Adrenalin.
3. I do have high cortisol levels, and I'm guessing it is because my adrenal glands are still producing it well, but no longer have the ability to slow down or stop producing it when needed.

Mal-nutrition may be a contributing factor but I have excellent health except for the Adrenal Fatigue. I don't even catch influenza.