How many lemonades per day? 
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how many lemonades is one supposed to take per day? I couldn't find this info. Thank you- Re: How many lemonades per day? r0berta
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This is a reply to # 840,479
Drink a minimum of 6 (10oz)lemonades each day. You also shoud drink half your body weight in ounces per day in addition to the lemonades, SWF and lax tea.
You really should read the book. Until you are able to buy a copy of it, you can go to google and search for "Master Cleanse pdf". You can then read an online copy. The Master Cleanse has Very specific (easy) instructions. Before you begin there are a few things that you will need to get. Specifically, you are going to need some good quality cayenne (from a health food store), some organic lemons or limes, some maple syrup (grade B), some uniodized sea salt and herbal laxative tea.
I would also advise that you get a cheap citrus juicer (example: Black & Decker - $10 at Walmart).
Be sure to use Purified water. You can buy it in gallons at the grocery store or Walmart. Tap water is not advised.
What are your expectations of doing the Master Cleanse? What do you wish to achieve through cleansing?
Cheers! ~ Roberta ~
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- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... r0berta
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This is a reply to # 840,493You also should drink half your body weight in ounces OF WATER per day in addition to the lemonades, SWF and lax tea. Example: Drink 80 ounces if you weigh 160 pounds.
- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... #76802
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This is a reply to # 840,496Thank you. I made 2 MCs of 10 days 4 years ago, associated with P&B shakes, and it went very well. So today I began the same thing, now I read it isn't any more adviced to use P&B shakes together with MC, but I'll continue anyway, as my experience with it has been very positive. I'll do a fast-only later maybe. Is there still someone besides me doing ultimate cleanse or am I the only one?
thank you for the quick answer, I didn't remember about the quantity. I remember that, oddly enough, I never felt the need of drinking all the lemonades, and I found it was a sign that my body was having all it needed, it wasn't starving. So I drank the 6 per day no problem, but above all at the end I could have drunk just half or even less.
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- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... r0berta
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The Ultimate Clease isn't the Master Cleanse, so I doubt that you'll find someone on this forum doing the Ultimate Cleanse. I'd have to say though that the Ultimate Cleanse can be VERY dangerous and Uncomfortable if you don't take in enough fluids. If I were to do the UC, I would drink way more than 6 lemonades each day - probably 12. I would probably also drink a gallon of water or more in addition to the lemonades. I tried the P+B shakes for a couple of days once. It was not easy to take in enough liquids.
What do you hope to accomplish through this cleanse?
Be careful.
You may want to do a search within curezone for "Ultimate Cleanse" - also search for "P&B"
Being completely educated about these two things before you embark on it would be very very very good.
Cheers! ~ Roberta ~
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- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... Donn
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This is a reply to # 840,510quote - "it isn't any more adviced to use P&B shakes together with MC, but I'll continue anyway"
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you have yet to experience the miracles that can be obtained by doing the Master Cleanse.
The UC was invented as a fraud to prevent others from benefiting from the MC.
Many have fallen for it. Its name is the real clincher.- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... #76802
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This is a reply to # 840,789ok, I'm open, give me the explanation of what you say.
I don't think it is any murder to make variations on a protocol, everybody in CZ does it, I've done it many times. But if you can show me the reasons why these variations should be wrong, I am flexible and can change plan no problem.
It seems to me logic that to have some fibers and a sponge carrying the toxins out is better. If you ever tried to clean a bottle, you must have found out that no way it is going to get clean without a brush. If you don't let the toxins out, they will go back exactly where they were before, and will you harvest 30% max of the benefits of your fast. I can stand a little bit of not-too-sure-if-it-is-there digestion to have some help cleaning bowels.
I am not the only one:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=672538
(but I don't agree with her on skipping the SWF, I do it and I also do enemas, maybe I'll do also a colema at some point, and I think P&B shouldn't get too hard in the bowels if not they could irritate the walls by going out)
Also, why are you talking of fraud? why should someone want to hide the benefits of a fast with another type of fast. I don't understand.
MC is not a divinity, you know, it is a tool llke others. Master-Cleanse has limits, UC has limits, OJ fast has limits, juice fast has limits too and Water Fast same same.
It is all very realtive and very flexible.
But again, if you have info that I don't have, I will be happy to understand better and do Master-Cleanse without B&P shakes.- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... pepe
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This is a reply to # 840,955Flexibility is fine and dandy and folks will do whatever they want. This forum is specific for the discussion of the MC and the UC has NEVER been part of the MC. The MC works in a very simple, elegant specific way and at least for the sake of those new uninitiated noobees seeking information on the "MC" it would be helpful to explain or describe things from a point of "knowledge" of how things "actually" work.
It has nothing to do with anything evil or stupididty but it does have all to do with misinformation. The UC as described by the originator is a very poorly concieved plan with at the very least great potential to diminish the effects of the MC and at on the other end of the scale to cause some real potential harm if done as described in the original UC site.
On the orig site 1st they tell you to mix the BPs with the lemonade and anyone that has any "real" knowledge at all how the BPs "actually" works will tell you that because of the highly absortive nature of the B&P one must do them within 1hr before or after taking in any nutrition or medication. This mixing it with the lemonade greatly diminishes or negates the nutrition and effects of the lemonade itself as it is being absorbed by the B&P effectively turning the MC into a colon cleanse. If that is your goal then so be it but again because you are negating the little nutrition you are getting from the lemonade you can effectively make the MC experience not only not as effective as designed but actually make yourself unecesarily ill or go through some bad discomfort and cause some actual harm.
The other very misinformed point on the original UC site is that it does not mention that you must drink lots and lots of water when doing the BPs. Again anyone that knows anything about colon cleansing and how the BPs works will tell you the it is IMPERATIVE that one must drink lots and lots of water with the BPs for them not only to be effective but to keep them moving out and not plugin up your system and possibly causing some serious problems and complications. I remember reading a while back of someone on this forum winding up in the hospital from the BPs pluging up their system while doing the MC. One of the healers on this site that has his own forum also warns of the possibility that in an empty system the B can become plaster like and really plug up the works.
The BPs are very good at what they do but in order to get the most out of the MC or the BPs each should be done separate. More is not necesarily better.............................
Last but not least again for the sake of those seeking info on the MC there is also a very well tought out and comprehensive post on the FAQs for this forum regarding the BPs and the MC at: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=265179#i
I hope the above info might help you and any noobee seeking info on the MC make an "informed" decision on how to get the most from the MC and how it was designed to actually work.- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... #76802
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This is a reply to # 840,979yeah, I had already read that link you gave, it is in the FAQ
I wasn't even aware that there was a site on UC, I learnt about UC on CZ.
It is very clear to me that B&P shakes are to be taken 1h a part from the lemon, the info I found in CZ about UC were very precise on this.
Also good to repeat the need for proper hydration.
But given that one takes these two things into account, you don't tell me any info showing that Master-Cleanse and B&P together are wrong. As I said I have no problems changing plans but you have to give me some valid reason for it. I gave you my reasons, that is that the toxins are removed more effectively from the bowels with the help of P&B shakes, but you are not giving me the contrary reason, only 2 precautions which can be taken and still be in UC (and which I knew already).
I had 2 very good experiences in the past with UC, I never tried Master-Cleanse alone so I could just take this occasion to see how it is. 3 years ago in this same forum everybody was very happy with UC, so that was a natural choice back then. So now the sentiment has changed as I see, but I still don't have clear the logic of this change. I am not of stubborn nature, but I don't like following blindly a wagon, I like to use my brain if possible.- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... r0berta
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This is a reply to # 840,981
I guess this would all make a lot more sense if you stated what you actually wanted to accomplish through doing the Master Cleanse or the Ultimate Cleanse.
Do you have health problems that you are working on?
Some of the reasond that I initially wanted to do the Master Cleanse were:
- Relief of acid reflux / heart burn
- Relief of food sensitivity issues - I had begun to develop allergies
- Relief of pain in joints
- Relief of skin irritations
The Master Cleanse helped me (greatly) with all of these issues. It was not all that I needed to do to Really relieve this problems, but it was one step in the process. I have taken other messures to continue this healing process. I feel much better than I did when I started this healing journey. I credit my successes - so far - with taking things slowly and not combining cleanses. In the past, I have not been so patient and have sought Quick Fixes. In the naivety of youth, I have caused my body much harm. Feeling invincible is a thing of the past for me. I'm not a teenager anymore and my body is very appreciative of the care that I give it now.
There is no need to rush. Have you ever had to clean your house really quickly - when company was coming? Did you notice that when you vacuumed really fast that the vacum cleaner didn't really pick up as well? If you take your time and do things more carefully, you WILL get better results. Why not do the Master Cleanse as directed (since you said you never had before) and then do a P&B Cleanse after (for the sponge/mop-up benefits of the P&B's).
Cheers! ~ Roberta ~
- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... #76802
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This is a reply to # 841,051The problem with too many cleanses is only if your herxeimer reaction is too heavy, otherwise there can be good synergies. I only had a slight headache this morning while doing SWF, so I'm doing fine for the moment. I also take many measures in order to help my body eliminating the toxins, like OP, detox baths and so on. One of these measures, in my eyes, was P&B shakes, and I had posts from you and others telling me I shouldn't use them but not giving me any reason why, so this puzzles me a bit.
I actually didn't preview this problem as 3 years ago everybody was very happy with adding P&B shakes, after i began I found out to my surprise it isn't so any more but I still don't know why. Maybe at some point someone felt bad doing it? but this is not a valid reason in itself, as there are many factors.
The reasons for my fast are not so well defined. I've been doing many things, and basically eaten very healthy for 10 years (but also before I never ate SAD) and now I felt like a fast. As in the country where i am living now oranges and other fruit& veggies to juice are of poor quality (it is far north here) I said to myself let's do MC. I am not ready for another water fast, I know that, I have a small child and Master-Cleanse is very energetic and easy, that's all. I am quite educated in alternative health, also thanks to CZ, and I've been here enough to see moods changing towards certain flushes or lifestyles without any special reason, it is just that people come and go and have different approaches. This is beautiful and I appreciate it really, but on the other hand I hold on to what I know by experience being good to me even when its wave is in downfall. In this case I could give a try to Master-Cleanse without P&B shakes and see the difference just for the hell of it, we'll see. Thank you for taking the time to anwer to me.- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... Donn
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This is a reply to # 841,085quote - "I actually didn't preview this problem as 3 years ago everybody was very happy with adding P&B shakes, after i began I found out to my surprise it isn't so any more but I still don't know why."
You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
The "gimmick" of the Ultimate Cleanse has faded, and the truth, once again, has moved to the forefront.- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... #76802
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This is a reply to # 841,240I see you so very aggressive on this issue, what bad did they do to you? or what bad did I do to you? I'm just enquiring, aren't forum supposed to be for this? why do you talk as if this gang of UCers were a band of outlaws that tried to steal from elders and poors? they just tried to make a variation that was eventually discarded as non relevant and that's all. Or is Master-Cleanse a matter of faith?
- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... Donn
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This is a reply to # 841,328Its obvious that you have completely missed the main points of what I have been trying to convey.
Sorry I can't help you.
- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... Donn
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- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... Donn
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- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... Donn
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This is a reply to # 840,981The genius of The Master Cleanse is that it is a carefully balanced protocol designed to put the body into cleansing mode while giving it at least a minimum of nutrition.
When this balance is tipped you don't have a body in cleansing mode.
A body in cleansing mode will clean and rebuild every part of the body and every cell.
Chewing gum can interfere with this balance.
This seems to be a not well known aspect of the Master-Cleanse and it is very easy to convince someone that it is OK to take something that is not part of the cleanse.
- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... pepe
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This is a reply to # 840,981Dunno how much clearer than the "logic" I gave and that from the FAQs can be. Are you waiting for someone to tell you that you can die from it? ;+D
Just to elaborate a bit more. The main working mode of the MC is to give the digestive system a rest and when you are pouring all that fiber into the system it will keep things pretty active and cranking up the peritaltic action in your GI tract and all the energy it will take just to push all the fiber out. All the energy used to deal with the fiber works at odds with the MCs main working mode of giving the digestive system a rest. Even with the 1hr rule thing the lemonade is ALL the nutrition you are taking in and it being all liqid form a good portion of it is still going to get absorbed by the B&Ps, again diminishing what little nutrition you are getting plus also diminishing the cleansing action of the lemon and cayenne. This ain't rocket science. Just plain ole "common sense". As I explanied before when you add the BPs the MC it is no longer the MC but a colon cleanse.
I've been around for 5 years and the whole UC whoopteedoo was all from a single poster namely Tracey who's post you refered too as you not being the only one. She was a prolific poster and the whole thing was all about her "enthusiasm" and not backed by any of the sound reasoning that I gave you. She meant well but other than "experimenting" there was not real well thought out logic behind the enthusiasm. BTW It was more close to 5 years ago than 3 years when all business with the UC was going on.
I was a noobee myself back when but I just wasn't taken in by her prolific posting. I did give it a try on about my 3rd MC just to see what all the hoopla was about and just simply did no care for it just on the fact alone that it ruined the nice light empty feeling I came to enjoy from the MC as written. In addition it plugged me up so that was the end of that. FYI I have been regular my entire life so it wasn't an issue that I had any existing problems with regularity. I have done the BPs while eating regular also and again it made me feel bloated and I just don't have the dicipline to be timing the BPs one hr before and after taking nutrition so I've never lasted more that 2 weeks at a time. I have since switched and I'm quite pleased with Oxypowder for colon cleansing.
Since the begining of my journey 5 years ago I have done 7 MCs with 5 being in the 40 day range.
- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... #76802
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This is a reply to # 841,075I thought that psyllium husk was NOT digested? if you consider digestive action also the simple transit, then also salty water involves that action.
Anyway, if you have all this experience with Master-Cleanse and tried also UC and comparatively you didn't find it an improvement this is something solid to consider finally.
About Tracey I don't know, a long time has passed since and I don't really remember who was saying what. yeah, it was summer 03 in my case
(BTW, I don't like too much the tone you've been using in both your posts, as if you were talking with a stupid moron. I am quite intelligent actually, enough to distinguish between a good and a mediocre answer)- Re: How many lemonades per day? CORR... pepe
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This is a reply to # 841,323I took the time and effort to give you very specific and elaboarate explanations and pointed you to a very comprehensive and alaborate explanation in the FAQs and you come back with " I am not of stubborn nature, but I don't like following blindly a wagon, I like to use my brain if possible" Well you sure did jump on the bandwagon for the UC cause there was no real well thought out reasoning behind it and it sure has NEVER been part of the MASTER CLEANSE.
Your "problem" with my tone is exactly that "your problem". I have taken the time and effort to pass on detailed and elaborate information and if that is not enough to convince you to "use your brain" then so be it. You are posting in a "public forum" and you don't get to choose who or how people respond to your questions. The world just simply does not revolve around how you think things should be. It is what it is and there are many colors and different flavors. No more no less. Take it or leave it.
The psyllium is not only a solid but a highly absorbtive solid at that and will expand many times it's original volume. Take a second and "use your brain" and it will become very apparent and obvious by simple deductive reasoning that you can't even begin to put it in the same universe as passing the SWF which is a liquid and could basically travel through the system just about unassisted by simple gravity.
Have a nice day
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