Best relief for Lymph Congestion? 
sunnydisposition
19 y
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MoreHi.
Recently Andreas suggested i have congested lymph.
What is the best thing to do?
I have bought an inexpensive rebounder. How many minutes a day should I use it? I am in fairly good physical shape, although 20 lbs overweight and have bad edema (swelling) in my lower legs and pain on bottom of my feed.
I have also read about
-lymph drainage massages
- hot/cold showers
- dry skin brushing
What is the most effective and how many minutes a day do you bounce, brush, and shower?
THanks for any help you can offer
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- Re: Best relief for Lymph Congestion... Blueduck
19 y
9,328
This is a reply to # 617,005Start off slow with the rebounding and build up to thirty minutes a day. Do two sessions a day if you can. You can do this to music. I have a John Phillips Sousa March CD that I use. It is kind of fun actually.
Use the dry skin brush in morning and evening both if you can. Once a day is good, twice is better. Your skin needs to be dry so I would suggest this before you rebound, so your skin is not wet with sweat. You can use the brush, then rebound and then take a shower.
There are different ideas about this hot cold showering. I have tried it. My own theory is to use about three minutes of hot followed by a couple minutes of cold. I go until the hot water runs out and finish with cold water. Do a few changes of water temperature. I would suggest to do it as long as you can stand it. I have also heard that some people go about a minute with hot and a minute with cold. I guess any way you do it would be better than not doing it at all ? The idea is that the hot water makes the blood come to the surface of the skin and the cold drives the blood into the core of you body, to nourish the internal organs with oxygen.
Blueduck
- Thanks, are those the only methods? sunnydisposition
19 y
8,625
This is a reply to # 617,006thanks for your post.
i have always hated a cold shower... i had been going to take a sauna once a week and alternating time in the sauna with a cold plunge pool that they have, in order to do the same process of getting the circulation going.
do you think once a week would be enough with the cold plunge, if i do the rebounding and dry skin brushing every day?
also - are there any other things i should be doing that i don't know about/haven't mentioned?
thanks!!- Re: Thanks, are those the only metho... Wrenn
19 y
8,885
This is a reply to # 617,007hi, i had similar edema in my feet and legs for many years after
my recoveries,
i found that sitting with feet up several times a day in between chores, and also utilising ace bandages as legs wraps (not to tight),
and wearing snug socks greatly affected my edema and kept swelling down.
there are a great many herbal teas you can make to help the lymph system flush and reduce edema.
(retaining excess fluid)
weight loss, and also paying attention to diet are very important factors, as is elimination of toxic food useage (ie: red meat, dairy, soy or canola oils or trans fats, fried foods ,table salt vs unrefined Seasalt , canned veggies vs fresh, fish has higher dioxin lvls over red meat !..if you must intake animal protein at least focus on chicken or turkey and cook it in ways that do not involve frying.)
teflon cookwares , nylon implements etc..are both sources of toxins.
Liver Flushes and kidney stone dissolve flushes will help greatly.
as will reflexology techniques focusing on liver, spleen areas.
waking up your circulation thru light exercise
and boosting digestive system
by eating at proper times all help.
the largest meal should be between noon and 1 pm
also massaging your lymph areas or congested fatty deposit areas
will aid greatly.
i will edit my message today with some great herbs to help you in eliminating some of that excess fluid retention.
(i use so many fresh dried herbs for so many reasons, i would hate to pop one off the top of my head) *smile*
well i went and checked alot of my resources and since i don't know much about your history health issues etc, i think that a tea made from dandelion leaves would best suit your purposes.
a good tea would be to add to 2 tablespoons of insecticide free
dandelion leaves, 2 cups of boiling water.
let steep for 15 minutes.
strain and drink in one tablespoon doseages thru-out the day
up to the 2 cups that you made.
it is a good tonic: diuretic, and laxative and can aid in wt loss ,
used also as an aid for liver problems, including jauntice.
native american indian uses for it included:
skin problems, heartburn,to calm the nerves, anemia, constipation, pain and water retention.
i get my herbs in bulk from the link below
scroll down to dandelion leaves
get the 4 oz bag for $ 3.25
( will last you an incredibly long time) *smile*
best to you ,
Ami Joi Benton. ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°©
hi, i had similar edema in my feet and legs for many years after
my recoveries,
i found that sitting with feet up several times a day in between chores, and also utilising ace bandages as legs wraps (not to tight),
and wearing snug socks greatly affected my edema and kept swelling down.
there are a great many herbal teas you can make to help the lymph system flush and reduce edema.
(retaining excess fluid)
weight loss, and also paying attention to diet are very important factors, as is elimination of toxic food useage (ie: red meat, dairy, soy or canola oils or trans fats, fried foods ,table salt vs unrefined Seasalt , canned veggies vs fresh, fish has higher dioxin lvls over red meat !..if you must intake animal protein at least focus on chicken or turkey and cook it in ways that do not involve frying.)
teflon cookwares , nylon implements etc..are both sources of toxins.
Liver Flushes and kidney stone dissolve flushes will help greatly.
as will reflexology techniques focusing on liver, spleen areas.
waking up your circulation thru light exercise
and boosting digestive system
by eating at proper times all help.
the largest meal should be between noon and 1 pm
also massaging your lymph areas or congested fatty deposit areas
will aid greatly.
i will edit my message today with some great herbs to help you in eliminating some of that excess fluid retention.
(i use so many fresh dried herbs for so many reasons, i would hate to pop one off the top of my head) *smile*
best to you ,
Ami Joi Benton.
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/bulkherb/d.php
- Wow, thanks for the info! sunnydisposition
19 y
8,466
This is a reply to # 617,008Ami JO - Thanks for the info on dandylion tea!
If you have any other insight, here's some health history --
- female, late 30s
- just within "healthy" weight range but at top, 20+lbs gained in 2 years
- most weight gain in midsection
- edema in lower legs for several years
- was injured 2 years ago in trauma
- have had kidney stones age 16, 21 and 28 (none since that i know of)
- had one chinese doctor tell me that my kidney was weak and my thyroid low
- had another chinese doctor tell me my liver and liver meridians were the issue
- nothing shows up abnormal in standard western blood tests
- was borderline anemic as a teenager
- suffer with Depression of and on since a child
- exercise moderately, biking and walking
- had leg injury in fall that took a long time to heal, still have a weird lump
- was diagnosed with 'fibromyalgia' when docs couldn't figure out the edema and the pain in my legs
- have been getting bad pain in my feet for last couple years (since injury) which is worst upon awakening in morning
= i take systemic enzymes which have helped somewhat with leg pain
- i rarely drink alcohol although i did when i was younger
- i rarely drink coffee although i did when i was younger
- my diet, while not perfect, is much better - i avoid most bread and 'white' foods, eat more veggies and fruit, some meat mostly fish, no red meat
Does that give you any other ideas for herbs?- Re: Wow, thanks for the info! Wrenn
19 y
8,591
This is a reply to # 617,010well off top of my head i think to myself have you done a good kidney stone disolve program?
also have you ever done a magnetic clay bath? (even just pascalite
clay bath on feet/shins woudl be of immense help.
have /are you aware of the super high dioxin lvls in fish?
staggering.
to one 4 oz fish ct can be average about 274 point
vs 33 in 4 oz red meat,
and 18 in poultry..
(i do not eat red meat btw )
and rarely eat poultry but it is on my good by list too ,
after last 2 times i ate it my body said no way!!
which is fine by me since i rarely ate it anyhow.
dioxin has a 14 year life span generally with a 7 year half life..
which means : say you ate 4 oz today and consumed 274 in dioxin ,
then in 7 years your body will have processed out only 137 of that fish meal you just ate 8(
this ia a real cause to pause and think upon.
that is why i was thinking you might need a good drawing clay
to help get stored toxins out
esp if use teflons or nylons etc in cooking
i really believe in approaching things slowly
to avoid healing crisis..
you probably have a number of toxins stored in your body.
if you force them out too fast,
then you will be overwhelmed
with too many toxins free floating in body
than your kidneys/and liver can filter and process out
and can end up very sick.
i would probably start with colosan
to get your intestines and colon cleaned out
and old fecal matter disintegrated and flushed out.
.this by itself will probably clean out 6-12 lbs
of old fecal matter from you .
it is very important to drink lots of water
to help flush out released toxic material.
that will probably help you immensely get in a position
to consider a kidney cleanse.
Andreas has an excellent recipe in his books
and i do his. *kidney flush tea*
it involves a 6 week herbal tea addition to your every day life.
not a problem at all,
just make sure you put herbs to soak each night
before you go to sleep.
from there you will have plenty of time to read and learn about other options open to you...
such as beginning to prepare for a liver flush.
i prepare for one about a month before i do it,
by using gold coin grass to break up any stones in liver,
for 3 weeks program.
then for a week, i add apple juice (for the malic acid)
to help soften any others
like i said,
during that time you can rethink how best you want to heal yourself and what you feel can suit your lifestyle.
if you make too many changes at once,
you will be overwhelmed.
make a plan then let it be flexible.
hope this helps
Ami Joi Benton
feel free to ask questions anywhere..
and if you want to know places you can get things
i will happy to share and post some resources for you .
©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°©
well off top of my head i think to myself have you done a good kidney stone disolve program?
also have you ever done a magnetic clay bath? (even just pascalite
clay bath on feet/shins woudl be of immense help.
have /are you aware of the super high dioxin lvls in fish?
staggering.
to one 4 oz fish ct can be averge about 274 point vs 33 in 4 oz red meat, and 18 in poultry..
dioxin has a 14 year life span generally witha 7 year half life..
which means say you ate 4 oz today and consumed 274 in dioxin then in 7 years your body will have processed out only 137 of that fish
meal youjust ate 8(
this ia a real cause to pause and think upon.
that is why i as thinkng youmight need a good drawing clay to help get stored toxins out esp if use teflons or nylons etc in cooking
i really believe in approaching things slowly to avoid healing crisis..
you probably have a number of toxins stored in your body
isf you force them out to fast, then you will be over whelmed with too many toxins than your kidneys/and liver etc can filter and process out and can end up very sick.
i would probably start with colosan to get your intestines and colon cleaned out and old fecal matter disintegrated and flushed out..this by itself will probably clean out 6-12 lbs of old fecal matter from you .
it is very important to drink lots of water to help flush out released toxic material.
that will probably help you immensely get in a position to consider a kidney cleanse.
Andreas has an excellent recipe in his books and i do his.
it involves a 6 week herbal tea addition to your every day life,
not a problem at all, just make sure you put herbs to soak each night before you goto sleep.
from there you will have plenty of time to read and learn about other options open to you.
such as beginning to prepare for a liver flush.
i prepare for one about a month before i do it, by using gold coin grass to break up any stoens in liver, for 3 weeks
then for a week i add apple juice for the malic acid to help soften any others
like i said during that time you can rethink how best you want to heal yourself and what you feel can suit your lifestyle.
if you make too many changes at once, you will be overwhelmed.
make a plan then let it be flexible.
hope this helps
Ami Joi Benton
feel free to ask questions anywhere..and if you want to know places you can get things i will happy to share and post some resources for you .- Liver Flush (questions for Wrenn) alternliving
19 y
8,482
This is a reply to # 617,012Hi Wrenn,
I just read your post yesterday and wanted to ask you some questions about your Liver Flush technique... I haven't done any Liver Flushes yet, but have been "studying" the different methods... I want to follow the Andreas protocol, and I have ordered his book, "The Amazing Liver Cleanse," but haven't received it yet. Anyway, I also checked out Julia Chang's web site, and I thought it would be great if I could somehow combine Andreas' and Julia's approaches to the liver cleanse. I've been wanting to ask Andreas what he thinks of combining the herb and apple juice methods, but I've never been online when his forum is open to new questions, and right now he's not accepting questions at all.
I'm wondering:
-When you take the malic acid and apple juice the week before
the claense, do you continue to take the GCG?
-How has it worked for you? Do you pass "sand" or actual stones?
Thanks!http://www.geocities.com/alternliving
- Liver Flush (questions for Wrenn) alternliving
19 y
8,482
- Re: Wow, thanks for the info! Wrenn
19 y
8,591
- Re: Where exactly are the lymphs? n/... hopelessminx
19 y
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- Re: Where exactly are the lymphs? n/... Blueduck
19 y
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This is a reply to # 617,020Click the link below. Lots of information there for you.
Blueduckhttp://www.lymphomation.org/lymphatic.htm
- Re: Where exactly are the lymphs? n/... Blueduck
19 y
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- Wow, thanks for the info! sunnydisposition
19 y
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- Re: Thanks, are those the only metho... jackson
19 y
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This is a reply to # 617,007A couple things:
1) Obviously make sure you are well hydrated and taking in enough water. It never hurts to add some MSM to the diet to help the cell permability so they can flush out metabolic waste. That is the very basic level of function before the lymph system carries it away.
2) Make sure you have clean and efficient colon function seeing as this is where the lymph finally gets dumped for disposal. In the Robert Gray book skin brushing is part of the colon cleansing package and you can see an increase in your bm's when you are using the holistic horizons bulking agent and start skin brushing.
3) You object to cold showers - well, the good thing about doing the hot/cold alternating showers is that after a few cycles, your senses in your skin become so confused by the temp change you don't really feel anything anymore. It's really quite invigorating and relaxing at the same time (?) - hard to describe without actually experiencing it. I use a shower at the gym I go to and it is like standing under a fire hose - I love it!
I would think if you are rebounding and brushing on a daily basis, the 1 week hot/cold you do would be sufficient.
- Re: Thanks, are those the only metho... Wrenn
19 y
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- Thanks, are those the only methods? sunnydisposition
19 y
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- Re: Best relief for Lymph Congestion... Blueduck
19 y
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