mucoid plaque: true or not true? 
scorpie
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I've read that from the conventional medicine stand point, doctors don't believe in 'mucoid plaque' - can someone explain to me: if there is mucoid plaques in the colon, why can't you (or your doctor) see it during colonoscopy or sigmoidoscopy? The colon wall color is just pink - not black like the built up plaque that's claimed to be the mucoid.
I've done my own bowel cleansing with Bentonite and psyllium, and juice fast for a week. All I consumed as sort of 'solid' intake was the Bentonite and psyllium.- and YES I passed lots of this "mucoid plaque" and they look pretty nasty - And when I did go (you know), all that came out was just the this mucoid plaque (dark grey nasty thing).
I wonder if that's just the result of Bentonite and psyllium being digested?
Thanks for enlighten me about this.
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- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? handsomer426
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MoreThis is a reply to # 465,821i am also wondering the same exsact thing!. it would be great if someone had an answer for this. some would think that mucoid plaque is just a gimmick to lure people into using cleasnsing products. i am not here to start a agrument and i do believe colonics has many benefits but i would like to know the truth
- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? #67141
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It's a scam. Mix that stuff together and let it harden. It will look exactly like the 'plaque' that supposedly comes out of you, except it won't be shaped like your intestines. Beware, that stuff can give you intestinal blockage and cause serious medical problems, as it did for me. Request a refund and threaten to report them, you'll get your money back no question about it.- Edited #25274
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Mucoid plaque is REAL!!
A combination psyllium seed +bentonite can also produce ropes,but are of a different
texture,most often all gray colored,from light to dark shades,depending on how
healthy your gallbladder is .
Real mucoid plaque is ruggery,you cannot cut it with a knife,and smells horrible
I think 67141 did not drink enough water,if you don't while bowel cleansing,you
WILL get constipated!
Besides,people who do not use bentonite,and use herbs instead,or
Oxypowder ,colosan,homozon(ogygen based powderalso get mucoid ropes out!!
Then again,not everyone has plaque,depending upon how unhealthy our food-quality
intake has been in the past,still is
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- Re: mucoid plaque: how long did it t... animalcollective
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This is a reply to # 465,827how long did it take you to get the MP out on P&B shakes? how many shakes did you take a day?
- Edited #25274
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hi,
still working at IT,have been on and of for 2 years now.
Don't let this discourage you,its my own fault I'm sure,
my trouble is; having a hard time to do anything consistently,
plus impatient,plus sometimes fed up with all the protocals.
My back to health-path so far has been;a few days ,few weeks
I've been good,(no cheating)and then I cave in,and eat cookies,
chocolate,boiled eggs,etc.,(never meat though)throwing it all
away again?I'm getting better at it though,and this time,I'm
determent to get it out and over with,the bowel part that is.
Found this site resently,and trying to stick with it!
It has to help!
http://www.lifeevents.org/salt-water-cleanse.htm
best wishes
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- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? #67141
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- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? #47594
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This is a reply to # 465,821I personally do not believe mucoid plaque exists. I believe what people see passing is a mixture of psyllium and bentonite. Like you stated, if it exists why isn't it seen in the colonoscopy? However, I do believe P & B shakes serve a good cleansing purpose. They trap the toxins in the bowel and carry them out.
- Re: colonscopies and no plaque #16643
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This is a reply to # 465,836the human intestinal tract is very long. the small intestine alone is about 22 FEET long. the large intestine is around 5 feet long. does a gastroenterologist actually get his scope all the way up in there? of course not. that kind of invasive procedure would probably kill a human. a colonoscopy might reach a couple feet into the colon, maximum. that leaves over 25 feet of intestinal tract to gather, in its folds and curves, all sort of gross things. this is why you'd never see anything substantial in a colonoscopy or endoscopy. these cameras just can't go in far enough to get a good view of everything.
i've done a few bowel cleanses, and i always feel better, with a flatter stomach, less gas, and larger, easier to pass, and more uniform color and odor bowel movements afterward. i also passed "mucoid plaque" one time when i ate a lot of oranges. i presume the fiber in them loosened up something that was stuck to the sides of my intestines. oranges don't normally cause this color/odor/shape BM, so obviously there was something in my body that the oranges helped expel.
think about how long a booger can hang out in your nose, and that's reachable! our intestinal tract is not all pink and shiny like the images you see. most of it may be like that in a healthy person, but guaranteed there are places where this junk collects and adheres to the walls of the tract.
i was a sceptic, but these days i'm a firm believer. plaque exists, and cleanses help to get it out.
- Re: colonscopies and no plaque #16643
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- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? prettysoulful
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There is much debate on the reality of mucoid plaque. I believe that it can exist.
I don't believe it is present in everyone as the black, rubbery compound described repeatedly. I believe that certain conditions must exist to transform mucus build up into mucoid plaque. Perhaps exposure to oxygen or another substance could stimulate the change, which could explain why people using Bowel Cleanses often have mucoid plaque as we know it. Most cleanses help increase oxygen in the bowels in one way or another. It may even be this transformation of the mucus buildup into the tough, black, rubbery material that allows the natural functions of the GI tract to push it out. After all, while it was soft, it likely moved in sync with the peristalsis of the colon wall, and remained in its sticky, mucus form which would help it stay stuck to the colon wall.
Many passages by specialists in the bowel cleansing field mention build up in the intestinal tract in addition to inflammation of the GI tract that can be several inches. Few state the initial description of this mucus build up to be black and rubbery, and then there is no way of knowing how long the lining or organ was exposed to air before a thorough exam of the organ was done. Also, during certain illnesses, patients are often given laxatives or other drugs as part of their treatments or before certain types of tests. This could also affect the appearance of the mucus buildup by the time of autopsy.
And as far as suggestions that colonoscopies do not pic up this substance, that could be related to the lack of adequate oxygen/other substance exposure before the test or the mucus buildup/mucoid plaque could actually be lining the small intestine and not the large, an area that the colonoscopy does not cover. And most endoscopies do not venture far along the 20+ feet of the small intestine.
So, the possibility exists. What is most important is moving stagnant matter out of the body as soon as possible. And if you happen to dump some mucoid plaque along the way, all the better.- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? hanna
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This is a reply to # 465,843Like prettysoulful says it is probably good to at least clean yourself once and then stick to a healthy diet. This discussion comes up off and on. I take it with a grain of salt, but still did the cleanse. The same with parasites after 2 years of liverflushing I just tried it since everybody was talking about it. It is difficult not to get involved in all the different hype. I did Oxypowder once and now I use it when I am in the mood just for one evening.
Here is a discussion about the plaque plus pictures.
//www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=329&i=14558
BTW the word mucoid plaque was coined by a Dr. Anderson who sold (sells) the product Arise&Shine (I think that is what it is called).
- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? anuca
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About 10 years ago I did a Water Fast with colonics for a week. After a couple of days I passed dark, old waste, with the shape of the intestine. Just a few inches, nothing dramatic. Back then I had no idea about mucoid, but it was rubbery, dark and dehydrated.
Ana
- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? farmgirl2000
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This is a reply to # 465,853Last year I did a colon cleanse, mostly following Dr. Jensen's protical, except that I didn't have the bentenite clay, so I did the cleanse without it. I still passed the rope, hard, rubbery, long looking stuff. So it can't be the combination of clay and psyllium that cause it. And I've taken psyllium before without doing a cleanse, and the bm's didn't look like that. I'm doing a Colon Cleanse now, using clay this time, and I'm getting the same mucoid plaque(?) looking stuff. Whatever you want to call it, I think it's good to do colon cleansing to get it out.
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- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? damoor
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This is a reply to # 465,843This is BS. It is quite obvious that most of the people who have negative responses about mucoid plaque have "NEVER COMPLETED A BOWEL CLEANSE, OR DONE IT PROPERLY IF THEY TRIED." It's quite obvious if one would analyze the various photos available on curezone, and the internet. Mucoid plaque comes in various shapes, sizes, and colors. Therefore, how in the hell can a gray colored mixed turn shades of brown, green, or black upon elimination, and have an unusual smell? Its not only psyillium & bentonite. I've completed numerous total cleanses, and I have sold numerous cleanses to people who have "FOLLOWED THE INSTRUCTIONS AS DIRECTED" with no problems. I submit that most of these people who spend their time commenting on something that don't have a clue about, or followed their own instructions should get a life. THESE CLEANSING PROGRAMS WORK IF ONE WOULD JUST FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS, AND NOT ALTER THEM.Advertisement
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- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? prettysoulful
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This is a reply to # 762,867Why are you making this response to me? I did not make a 'negative' response to the topic of mucoid plaque, nor have I stated that it doesn't exist. And to be clear, I have done many cleanses myself, and I have passed mucoid plaque, so don't speak down to us as though we have no knowledge of the subject and only you do.
- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? hayley3
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This is a reply to # 762,867I find it odd that you would get so upset because someone has a different opinion. Hmmmm......but then I just read that you SELL these products. I understand now.
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This is a reply to # 805,760It's quite obvious that the truth really hurts. My dear, my response was not demeaning in any way. It was truthful, and it has no correlation with what I've sold, or how I helped people by providing knowledge, and assistance in the past. The original post that I replied to questioned the validity of the Mucoid Plaque. My stance was if done correctly, one would experience a host of benefits, but unfortunately the sensitive one's must expose themselves. There are so many people who don't use common sense, and like to experiment in the attempt to make things better, and this is where they begin to question whether something works, or not. Furthermore, the FDA, and most quack pots feast on this because someone has been injured, and as a result the industry as a whole takes a hit. In closing, everyone who has completed a true total body cleanse can attest to the phenomenal benefits that they have achieved, but those who cheat, alter the protocol, or just travel to the beat of their own drum will continue to have problems with truth. Once the mind is free, the ass will surely follow.
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On a 10 day MC, I passed a crayon from grade school - just kidding. But during the Master-Cleanse I consumed no solids, but passed a hell of a lot of them. No Bentonite or that p-thing I can't spell. Just the lemonade and, yikes.
Got into colonics recently and passed a lot of black, rubbery stuff with light-colored "items" inside.
Not sure about the "Mucoid Plaque" black rubbery intestine-shaped halloween-type stuff per se, but I can assure you that you probably have a lot of crap that needs out. (no pun intended).
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This is a reply to # 465,861You literally made me laugh out loud!! Finally someone who embraces the fun in the journey to be healthy :) thank you
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- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? esme90
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This is a reply to # 465,821i've been on P&B shakes for 2 weeks, and am passing stools every morning, that look perfectly normal. Okay, some of them have been more gray than others (which I put down to teh bentonite), but mostly they've been normal colour (if anything a bit lighter than normal).
I really want to pass mucoid plaque as I think I have parasites, and I think this would help to get rid of a lot of the parasite load. I've been drinking 2 litres of water a day, when I weigh 96 lbs (Ithink). Can anybody give me any hints as to how to speed the process up? Should i switch to Oxypowder ? SWF?
rgds
esme90- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? scorpie
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for me, I did veggie juice fasting while doing the PB. Just a 3 day fast, you will see the difference. You will have the 'plague' out. Make sure you do enemas while juice fasting to get rid of the debris - since most people have a hard time eliminating when not consuming solid food. Though for me I still had one normal bowel before the enema daily. After I stop fasting (eating vegetarian diet), I still have the plague out for several more days and it stopped when I stopped the PB... and that's when the doubt came, if the 'plague' is actually the formation of the PB.
If you take Oxypowder , you may miss the fun of seeing the plague - because Oxypowder is known to liquify everything.
good luck.- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? esme90
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This is a reply to # 465,890cool, juice fasting it is. I'm not really equipped to do enemas, both mentally, and equipment wise. [blush] It's mainly because I'm living with my intolerant parents. They have a hard time understanding that I'm veggie nevermind that I'm doing a Colon Cleanse ;-)
Anyway, the point I was trying to make with my previous post, but then got distracted, is that it can't be the P&B being the mucoid plaque, because I'm definitely passing teh P&B, but that it's perfectly normal colour and consistency when it comes out of me.
rgds
esme90- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? hanna
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This is a reply to # 465,893Oxypowder does not satisfy people because you only see liquefied fecal matter (I love it, because when I am clean the body absorbs the oxygen, we all need). Read through all posts and you find when people don't use the bentonite, but only other products, they seldom see mucoid plaque.
Don't forget this all started with the death of John Wayne and Elvis Presley, who were not young and probably had lived a very rich "food/drink" life.
I googled it several years ago.
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- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? damoor
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This is a reply to # 762,873I can't speak directly to the methodology of everyone who has tried to do the total body cleanse properly, and not a colon cleanse. I would suggest that if the cleansing program is done as instructed, phenominal results will follow. Refraining from food would be the beginning, but it's very important to proceed gradually. By slowly increasing the herbs daily to soften the old impacted fecal matter, drinking copius amounts of pure water, and eliminating food intake, will result in mucoid plaque loosening, and removal. I would venture to say that most who have made an attempt to cleanse only to see regular colored bowel movements are still eating some type of food while cleansing. The problem is really centered around the fact that most people are eliminating mucus build-up with every bowel movement. Therefore, the elimination maybe dark, hard, and maloderous prior to cleansing. Be true to youreself, and sacrifice a few days to extend a few years.
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- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? earlgrey
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This is a reply to # 465,888It works better if you drink the terraimin clay water separately before and about 20mins later drink the whole organic psyllium husks drink after...for parasites--- 1/4 teaspoon of fully ozonated olive oil works best (DE is good, too), I take it all the time before bed 4 hours away from food after my psyllium drink-- ozonatedoilonline.com... it took me about 3 weeks until I passed mucoid plaque and took me more than a year to remove it all-- in the beginning the mucoid plaque is the color of foods you commonly ingest and then it progressively gets darker and more putrid and then towards the end its almost green black or black ...really gets gross and when you think is done, there is more...Advertisement
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- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? humanoid
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Today, I've got this article, in my email, and it got me thinking...(that's a 'plus', for me)
Next's an excerpt, just as food for thought .......Let’s see the facts behind mucous plaque and undigested food rotting in the colon.
If it were there, makes you wonder why it never shows up in colon surgeries or autopsies. You’d think that when the doctor opens up the colon he would see this mess of undigested food and mucous plaque.
Funny enough it’s never reported. And some colon surgeons even say that after thousands of operations they’ve never seen it.
That’s because it only exists in the minds of the people who sell colon cleansing products.
When you understand even a bit of physiology, it’s clear your colon cannot house years’ worth of undigested and rotting food.
Think of the colon as a tube. If it were filled with undigested food that pipe would be blocked. You still go to the toilet, so obviously the pipe is still open.
But they say: ‘no, but it’s stuck to the colon walls, so the colon is not blocked, it’s only narrower’.
Interesting. I guess they forgot that the colon wall keeps renewing itself all the time. It keeps shedding off old cells off and replacing them with new ones. It happens so rapidly that every 7 hours the whole lining is replaced.
For something to stick there it would have to reattach itself over 3 times a day. That’s about 1000 times a year.
Quite a feat for a rotting piece of undigested food.
This is just one of the quacks the natural health field is riddled with. Unfortunately many well meaning people both believe into these and repeat them to their friends as solid facts.
- Re: mucoid plaque: true or not true? kndl1919
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This is a reply to # 1,230,699#*%&$^@!!! I just wrote a detailed msg and somehow deleted it, so this will be just a briefing of that msg. Basically I had an ileostomy to relieve some pain since I had been having bowel problems since 3 yrs. old. By the time I was 15 I was having only 2 bowel movements a month and was sick allll the time and in EXTREME PAIN,(At age 25, I had a miracle child, a story in itself, and EVERY bowel movement in my life has hurt twice the pain of 100% natural child birth) I eventually was scheduled for an 8am surgery for the temporary ileostomy to let the lrg bowel and rectum heal this was when I was 28 (1998), so I had problems with keeping liquids and solids down as it was, so to try to keep the "Go-lightly" just caused me to throw up so violently that they noticed I was throwing up fecal matter (yes they took samples and tested it) ANYWAY, so I had the surgery, the temporary ileostomy (but my lrg intestine was left in to heal, same with the rectum) but for the next 2 1/2 yrs I was still sick and still in extreme pain, CHRONIC. Most Dr.s and different hospitals said,"You have the bag,you shouldn't still be sick and in so much pain". Then they felt counceling was needed. I went, but it still did nothing for what I KNEW was true physical pain, especially since things like a warm bath would help with some of the rectal and abd. pain,etc. So 2 1/2 years later I finally found a female Dr. who did an ultra sound and noticed my ovaries were in a strange area and then I went into surgery, BUT....when I woke up I was informed that my large intestine and rectum were impacted with 2 1/2 yr old fecal matter!!!!! And the DRS couldn't believe why I hurt or felt sick!!!! I'm sure it was a law suit but I was so sick I didn't really think of it at the time. The surgeon that did the "total proctocolectomy" asked why they didn't flush my bowels out before they placed the ileostomy in 2 1/2 yrs prior. I told the surgeon I DID NOT pass any of the "Go-Lightly" and he said,"well, I'm sure some went down, so I'm comfortable knowing you'll just pass the rest as you would normally." Even though that was my initial problem!!! It made no sense to me or the surgeon. Well my point for this was to tell you that I can testify or send you my biopsy of the colon that was not only full of impacted fecal matter but also my colon measured anywhere from 3cm to 10cm and no elasticity left. They told me that YES you can have impacted bowels and "gunk" that won't sluff off with new skin growth, and that is part of certain colon diseases, so they also explained that my few bowel movements a month hurt so bad because they basically had to be evacuated by pressure by eating more food to push it out since only certain sections of my intestines would work and then the next approx. 6 inches wouldn't, so it was a battle of things trying to "stay" down. Well I don't know if this helps anyone since I went on a rambling spree (the first msg was definitely more organized)I also forgot to mention that what I passed in those two movements sound very familiar with what these people are saying they passed when taking that cleansing, yet I never have or had. I do think the intestinal wall needs help sluffing off the dead skin with MORE FIBER PEOPLE, and when it get's a bit rough, try drinking some Aloe Vera juice. Sorry so long, but yes, you can still pass a movement and still have a blocked intestine and yes you can pass those cat crap looking droppings and still be human. Hope this mumble jumble helps. Thx kndl1919Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 1,230,699Yeah, then why do people most people's mouths smell like rotten shit...after the Colon Cleanse I never have bad breath...
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