If you get calcified stones out from your gallbladder, that is harder proofe, then ultrasound before & after a cleanse!


Tis is one story:
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My grandmother Nada told me this story about when she was around forty years old. I was a teenager when she first told me this story, but I still remember it as though she told me a few years ago. I could imagine everything she experienced when she told me this story. I still remember most of the stories my grandmother told me.


It happened somewhere in Belgrade in the 1950s. She was living with her two sons, my father, and my uncle.


That year, she often experienced sharp and long lasting pain on her right side and under her rib cage. I think it was winter.


A doctor diagnosed her with gallstones. He suggested a fat-free diet. I guess surgery was out of the question at that time. Yugoslavia was destroyed in World War II; I doubt doctors were performing gallbladder surgery in the fifties. Even if they were performing that type of surgery at that time, knowing my grandmother, I really doubt she would dare to undertake surgery.


Her pain was getting worse, so most people who knew her knew how bad she was suffering. Through friends, she came in contact with an old, retired doctor who gave her a recipe written on a small piece of paper. She kept that piece of paper for years together with her most important papers and documents, and she shared the recipe with others who needed it, but, eventually, she lost it. However, the recipe was very simple & easy to remember, so she did not forget it.



Here is the recipe:


Gallstones cleansing recipe:
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Eat only fat-free breakfast the day of cleanse, and then fast.


In the evening:
squeeze juice from 10 lemons
and mix it with 1 cup of olive oil.


Drink it.


Walk all night. Empty bowels into the pot and look for stones.
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So, she did it. My father and his brother (who were teenagers) had to stay awake all that night.

She was so weak, and had so much pain, they had to hold her and walk with her all night. As she explained, her pain was so intense at some moments, she couldn’t support herself when standing. Sometimes, she just lay on the floor in pain.



She emptied her bowels several times that night and morning.

In the morning, they counted over 28 calcified stones of different color, many of them bigger than marbles. The stones were as hard as rock.


She kept those stones in a plastic bag for years, but eventually, she lost them when she moved into another house.


She never had the gallstone problem again, and she never repeated that cleanse again.


I asked my father if he remembered that night, but he doesn't.

My grandmother is dead, my uncle is dead, and I am the only person who remembers this story.

I am telling it to my kids, and to you, so the story will not be forgotten.


Best of health
Dusan

Subject: Liver Cleansing w/ Dr. Hulda Clark
From: kelly < knkale@excite.com >


Hi there! I've been Liver Cleansing the Dr. Clark method for 4 1/2 years now. I've passed 6,523 Gallstones to date.

I just finished my 133rd one last night.


My question is this: will I ever get to the bottom of this seemingly bottomless pit (liver)?


I can feel different areas being cleansed because of the movement.

I've passed calcified ones and lime green ones!


I've passed stages: adult, metacercaria, eggs from sheep liver fluke, round worm and tape worm.

I've been suffering from illnesses since my child's birth 8 years ago. I suffer mostly from migraines and chemical allergies which Dr. Clark feels is due to an over parasatized liver (which I know I have).

Any suggestions???

I've been to Dr. Clark's dentist in Tijuana to get the extractions and such and I do everything in detail in her books including HCl to sterilize food.

Help???

I look forward to your return reply.

kelly

I completed my fifth cleanse this morning. On my fourth cleanse I didn't get any stones out. I decided that if I didn't get any stones out this time, I wouldn't do another cleanse for a while. Well, I got out about 20 stones. Nothing monumental, but still they are out so that is great. It was also a full moon. I had read about that being a factor. I don't know if it helped or not. (I know it helps in gardening :)

I also read Agnes's post about how you don't always get stones out every time. Some people have waited until the 18th or 19th cleanse to get "the big one." I was interested in her comment about how the liver might have to get healthier to be able to rid the body of stones. I just hope I'm not too late. It seems that the gall bladder is a fragile thing. Maybe I'm not getting stones out every time because my liver is really congested. I don't know. I also thought the comment about eating pizza was good. I have wondered about doing this cleanse long term and the effects on my body. It seems that Liver Cleansing is a good thing and if I'm eating pizza with all the cheese and fat, then what would a relatively little bit of olive oil hurt.

I have a friend who just recently tried the liver cleanse. I had been telling her about it for a couple of months. She said she wanted to try it but hadn't yet decided. Well, her body decided for her. Last week she was having so much pain. She had never had any diagnosed problems so she didn't know what it was. She went to the doctor and he told her it was either her colon, liver or gallbladder. She was supposed to come back for tests.

Well she called me and decided it was time to do the liver cleanse. She did something a little different. She did it during the day. She already hadn't eaten because it hurt to do so. She started at nine one morning with the ES. I told her I didn't have any experience with starting in the morning, so I would support her all I could with my limited knowledge. We had a "hot line" going as I was out shopping.

My son (14) went over to help her because he had done it once and we have always called him Dr. Lane because he has a good bedside manner. At one in the after noon she drank her oil/grapefruit juice. She does not like grapefruit juice so my son mixed the oil with mostly orange juice and a little grapefruit juice because I didn't know if it would make a difference in the results to not use just the grapefruit juice.

Well, about 10 pm she started passing stones. She passed about 20 total. She was still in pain. I was sorry to hear that. I knew that one cleanse probably wouldn't solve her problem, but I had hoped that it would ease her pain so that surgery wouldn't be necessary.

She went in the next day for tests and the doctor said she didn't have any stones but that her gall bladder was only functioning at 8%. She had to have it removed and felt better because the pain stopped, but I know from what I've read, that her problems may be just beginning. I hope that she will entertain doing more cleanses, but I don't know.

Anyway, interesting week around here "cleansingly" speaking,
Tisha

My partner took a homoeopathic gall stone flush remedy sometime ago.He was scheduled for key-hole surgery 4 or 5 times,thank god somebody recommended this to him,it worked.He has repeated it since and he says he will repeat it from time to time as necessary.
He tried to present his experience and research to the hospital in a professional manner,but nobody wanted to know,surprise surprise...He and I, and many other people want to know why this non-intrusive and non-invasive methodology of treatment is not being presented to patients as a choice.Something is not right; why surgery as a first choice?Business is obviously booming.

I believe my partner is now referring his experiences to various health ministers for their comments on the subject matter,he has become quite an ultruistic activist,more power to him.In the next few days I will post the Gall Stone flush remedy as taken by him.

I hope this information helps some one to make an informed choice in their health care.

I just wanted to let everyone know that I was diagnosed in December of last year with Gallstones and was facing surgery. Then I found this website. I had horrible back pain, acid reflux, and fatigue. After the flush, my symptoms disappeared and I had more energy than I had in years! I started excercising again and feel great. I've done the flush two times since, and still get plenty of stones each time. I know that I'll need to continue this treatment, possibly for the rest of my life. I'm happy to do it if I can avoid surgery. I hope nobody out there lets fear keep them from trying this. As long as they have no additional major health problems, it can't hurt! Even if they do, they should consult with their doctor and see if he will give them the go ahead to try it.

P.S. I'm a 35 year old female, and I've always had excellent health prior to this.

To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com
From: gingsong@******
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 09:43:24 EDT
Subject: Re: [gallstones] ultra sound proof - A very important question /john
Reply-To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com

My experience of ultra sounds of the gall bladder comes from my aunt who had the classic symtoms, but her ultra sound showed no gall stones. The doc removed the gall bladder, and found gallstones. So to me the ultra sound is not the first and last word on whether or not one has gall stones.

Jeanne

GALL BLADDER STONES DISAPPEARED
"My doctor advised me during a CAT scan he discovered that I needed to have my gall bladder removed. Being only 35 and afraid – I researched pro-active path. I read of a cleanse to get rid of gall stones and I decided to try it:

[ Gallstones have been dissolved and flushed out of the body on a 3-day fast with nothing but apple juice throughout the day (not the kind with water from concentrate, but the kind you buy in the Health Food Store that is unfiltered - apples are only ingredient - you need about two gallons). You can water it down so that it'll last and be filling for you. You can eat raw veggies or fruit if you need to....but nothing that would have fat in it (to cause the gallbladder to have to work). Each evening, right before bed, you take 1/2 c. fresh lemon juice (or frozen Minute Maid in yellow bottle in black box) and 1/2 c. cold-pressed olive oil. Put them in blender with a couple of ice cubes and it will help to emulsify them. Guzzle that down (real fast!) and go right to bed. Lay on your right side and go to sleep. You repeat this process for the 2nd and 3rd day and night. Depending on how many and how large the gall stones are, they'll begin showing up in the toilet bowl - green or black round balls.]

I did the 3 day cleanse twice over two different weekends including fresh apples and carrots, and the bedtime knockout - lemon juice and olive oil cocktail. Well, here's the great news. I went to the hospital yesterday for my ultrasound and two techs looked and looked and said, 'There are no stones or blockages here, why would your doctor waste your time and ours?' I acted innocent, and said, 'Oh well, I don't mind the hassle as long as it's good news.' Thanks so much for sharing natural health information and saving me from having to have surgery. I feel so much stronger and healthier as I was pro-active in the events being plotted out by the medical community. This just adds to my belief that miracles can happen to those who are willing to let them in."

The short answer is that I recently had an ultrasound the day after I completed a Liver Flush and it showed that my gall bladder was normal. Unfortunately I did not have an ultrasound before I did the flush - but I am pretty sure based on symptoms and on the "results" of the flush that my gall bladder was full of stones prior to the flush.

The story goes like this: For a full year I had been experiencing pain in my right shoulder that I thought was a pulled ligament or tendon or muscle or something. It was pretty constant. Also for some time I was feeling sort of "off" kind of bloated or overfull. One evening I had what I believe to be a gall bladder attack - acute pain in the upper right abdomen - right under the rib cage. I could hardly straighten out. It lasted for an hour and I think I would have gone to the emergency room if it had not subsided when it did. For the next 10 days or so - I felt horrible - lots of discomfort across the top of my abdomen and I made an appointment to see my doctor. A day or two before I was to go, I had some garlic soup for dinner and almost immediately felt better - the tight discomfort in my abdomen dissipated. I then saw the doctor who suspected that I was having gall bladder trouble and booked me for an ultrasound a couple of weeks later. I knew if the ultrasound showed stones - that the physician would recommend surgery.

I then scoured the web for alternative treatments to surgery and came across many different versions of the liver/gallbladder flush. I wasn't sure what I thought - the whole idea initially made me nervous. But then I had another attack - shorter but even more painful than the first and I realized that the pain in my shoulder was somehow connected to the abdominal pain. That convinced me that there must be something up with my gall bladder because I knew that pain in the right shoulder was often associated with gall bladder attacks. I realized that probably my gall bladder had been unhealthy for a long time. I figured I had nothing to lose by doing the flush.

I kept everything in the flush to the lowest dose I could - I think I cut the Epsom Salts down from four tablespoons to four teaspoons, I used a half cup of olive oil and the juice from one grapefruit - I put some garlic and ginger in the juicer too. I spilled hundreds of stones the next day and while it was a little inconvenient - there was real no pain nor was it particularly gross. By evening, I felt wonderful and the chronic pain in my shoulder was almost completely gone.

I had the ultrasound the next day but had to wait for nearly six weeks before I got the results. In the meantime I did a second flush and spilled only a very few stones - which I found very encouraging. I got the results of the ultrasound yesterday and I was thrilled.

Since the first flush, I have also been taking milk thistle to support my liver. Every now and then I feel a twinge in my upper right abdomen and my shoulder- I suspect there are more stones coming down from liver - so I plan to do another flush sometime when I can give myself the time I need to do it. I feel like my shoulder acts as a bit of a barometer for my gall bladder.

I had to think long and hard about the flush before I did it and convince myself that I would be okay if I tried it. I knew that there was a chance that I might make things worse, but I believed that I would recognize if things were going wrong and get myself to a hospital right away if it did. I can't say I recommend that everyone do it, I think you have to come to it on your own terms.

In short, yes -- I have had a before and after ultrasound.

After the initial ultrasound my doctor informed me that I had Gallstones and should have my gallbladder removed, that people could go on living a long and healthy life just fine without a gallbladder. I didn't like the 'just yank it' attitude. I figure the gallbladder is there for a reason! And after doing research, I discovered that many people suffered numerous complications from having the procedure done. With a looming surgical procedure hanging over me, I continued my research, which led me to the liver cleanse recipe here on this site. What do I have to lose I figured, and canceled the surgery.

I did the cleanse and after passing what looked like small pea sized stones, I collected them and took them into a lab to have them analyzed. Imagine the crazy looks I received bringing in 'gallstones' to be analyzed from an at home cleanse! Ha! Well, they agreed to send them to the lab, and days later called to inform me that they were not found to be gallstones. I asked what the samples were composed of and was told mostly cholesterol, salts and proteins -- isn't this what's in a gallstone? I decided to continue with my cleanse despite the naysayers and their skeptical attitudes, doing it once a month for about half a year. My 'attacks' became less frequent and finally just disappeared. I had another ultrasound done at a different clinic and my gallbladder was found to be empty. The specialist said that it didn't look like there was any need for surgery, especially if I wasn't experiencing pain.

So, were the 'things' passed during the cleanse actual gallstones? Did my body just rid the Gallstones on it's own without the cleanse? Who knows. All I know is that there were Gallstones in my gallbladder and after doing the cleanse numerous times...nothing. And I have been pain free for 5 years.