Are you on a 'proper' fast - ie water only, or on an extreme calorie restricted regimen, ie fruit juices, veggie smoothies, etc?
FYI, I weighed myself this morning in my kitchen. Two hrs later I weighed myself in my bathroom, and registered a 1.50lb 'loss'. For all practical purposes, that is virtually impossible.
Scales (even digital electronic) give only an approximation of mass. Weight is a function of the earth's gravitational 'pull' on your body. Depending on your precise location, time of day, etc., it can vary within certain parameters - possibly by as much as 1k. General trends are more significant than a single reading - or two.
Hmm.......well, yes. Fasting 'signalling' can fool the body into believing that starvation conditions prevail. The body's survival response to that signal is to conserve energy, and that must by definition include a reduced metabolic rate. That could also be an explanation for you feeling tired. It all fits in. And it's not so unusual either. I've had similar experiences from around day 12 into a fast, and it usually lasts for around a week before things get going again.
The only way to overcome it that I'm aware of is to ensure that you remain 'active'. If you don't know what that means, do a search on this forum:
http://www.fastingconnection.com
I tried posting a link for a relevant thread, but the site wouldn't allow me - some silly message about adult content.
It should give you enough ideas to kickstart that metabolic rate again, but you should also pay some attn to what I said about the benefits of intermittent dry fasting within this thread. You will be amazed at the results if you can get past the psychological barrier that insists on continuous fluid intake.
Giving up now while your metabolism is in 'trickle' mode would be a bad idea. Any food you eat will be largely converted into fat rather than used for energy, and any benefits gained from your fast will quickly evaporate.
If you can hack it, you should bite the bullet and see this one thru. As the song has it, it can only get better.
Thanks for reminding me Srinath. That's another point I forgot to mention. 10kg in 10 days is highly unusual, and has never been my own experience during a water fast. After day 4 or 5, weight loss is usually of the order of around 0.25 - 0.30kg per day.
If you think of it in accounting terms, you are therefore effectively in 'credit' as far as weight loss is concerned to the tune of around 3.50kg at least. That's equivalent to around 12 days weight loss for most ppl who water fast. If you mentally 'reallocate' that weight loss credit to your current deficit, you are actually well on course to achieving your goals.
All the more reason to stick with it, I'd say.
No, he doesn't mean eat fat while fasting. Eat healthy fatty foods when not fasting, but especially your last meal before commencing any fast should be as fatty as possible. Avocado, unsweetened peanut butter, haloumi cheese & egg fried in a healthy oil (such as rice bran, grape seed, etc), most nuts (especially pecan, macadamia and Brazil), olive oil-based salad dressing etc., are all good sources of healthy fats. The idea is that they put you in 'fat burniing mode', so you burn fat for fuel instead of carbs. Not only does that extend the benefits of your fast, but it will help you control your weight much better, and is also the basis of a much healthier diet longterm. Keeping carbs to an absolute minimum should be your longterm goal.
As for water fasting being easier than a dry fast, I find the opposite to be true. In my own experience, drinking water actually increases appetite, hunger pangs, feeling 'empty', etc. I find it much easier to control these signals when I'm not drinking water. Try it for yourself, if only to see how your body responds. You may be pleasantly surprised, and there's no need to go to any extremes. Try it for a day initially, then water fast. Then 2 dry days, etc, until you reach 5 dry days.
But don't stick rigidly to that regimen if you experience genuine thirst. Thirst should always be quenched, else you risk damaging your kidneys. Learn to 'listen' to your body. It will always tell you what it needs. Just don't give it any food while your fasting, otherwise it isn't really a fast. It would be more accurate to call it a diet, even if it's an extreme diet.
'eating fat while fasting'.
I think we might have a comms problem here. There's no such thing. If you're eating anything, you're not fasting - you're dieting. If we're gonna make ourselves understood, we first hafta agree about definitions.
Thx for the clarification Srinath. Yes, it makes metabolic sense, and it's basically the same idea behind the last fatty meal that should precede every fast. It puts the body in fat-burning mode, so that during the fast itself, the body is looking to its fat stores for energy instead of carbs, which would put organ and muscle tissue in 'the firing line'.
However as you lose fat, your body can replace the fat with water and your weight wont change.
If you combine fasting with intermittent dry fasting, you can stop that happening too.
Strictly speaking, you don't need much water while fasting/in ketosis as long as you have some body fat. The human body is utterly amazing in its ability to convert fat into water and a source of energy.
While dry fasting, I get a real kick from seeing my body turn fat into pee. There is no faster or healthier way to lose fat. Katabolic water is also the purest form of water there is. The absence of any thirst after 5 days (or more) of not drinking any water is even more amazing. It is totally counterintuitive, and contrary to everything you have ever been told about our ability to survive for more than 3 days without water. That might be true during normal feeding, but most emphatically not during fasting.
Yet another amazing gift of creation.
1. Firstly, he is not referring to normal hunger pangs. Everybody has those after more than around 8 hrs since last meal. Those are precisely the signals that cause fear and dread in novice fasters, and are likely the most common reason for unplanned breaks. I won't call them failed fasts on principle, coz any break from your usual feeding routine should be considered a victory. One way of looking at it is as a 'dry run' or mental preparation for the real thing.
Secondly, as you correctly point out, the 72+ hr 'hump' is the bane of every seasoned faster. Once you get past that initial hurdle, the rest is relatively easy. That's not to say there are no more challenges ahead, coz believe me - there are. They can vary from seemingly unrelated symptoms such as severe itching and nausea to a thumping heart beat and dizziness. Almost all such symptoms are the body's reaction to the detox that is now underway, and hopefully one of the main reasons you undertook the fast in the first place.
Finally, and long after you are likely to break your own fast, true hunger returns again. Unless you fast for a minimum of 30 days (and for most ppl it's actually around 40 days), it is highly unlikely you will ever experience this hunger. For all practical purposes, I would not worry too much about it. It is not necessary to experience this before breaking. The fasting doc is an experienced & highly qualified practitioner, & I'm pretty sure he would say that waiting until hunger returns before breaking should only be done under supervision.
2. So basically, you're trying to eliminate all traces of visceral fat. That's no bad thing. You haven't given me your height, so it's impossible to tell what your BMI is. Regardless, my preferred MO approximates to the following. Fast until you drop roughly 10-15lb below the average recommended weight for your height. That should virtually guarantee the elimination of all excess fat and 'redundant' body tissue.
After following a suitable breaking protocol, start a new feeding regimen that takes in both cardio and resistence exercises, and a good quality protein powder for building up muscle mass. You can add it to shakes, smoothies, oats, etc. But be very careful with latter if you eat it. You'll need to find a reliable organic source, coz Quaker use GMO cereals, and have been found to contain dangerous levels of glyphosate, aka roundup:
http://www.naturalnews.com/053897_Quaker_Oats_glyphosate_instant_oatmeal.html#
Personally, I wouldn't touch Quaker Oats with a bargepole. You wanna know what roundup can do? Just watch 14:00 - 17:15 of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDyI10Z8aH0
Happy fasting mate, and don't let Monsanto steal your health.
Sounds like a plan.
Yes, Monsanto is evil incarnate. If Satan is ever demoted to being CEO of a multi, I'm sure he would fit in quite nicely on their board.
Their brand image is so toxic that even a merger with Bayer will not save them, and hopefully fool no one. If I'm not mistaken, Bayer themselves are not exactly an innocent party either. They are directly implicated in Nazi war crimes against humanity, aka 'The Final Solution'.
This is the caliber of corporations that the lamestream relies on for its drugs and agri-chemicals, etc. Do you still wonder why our health is put at risk by them? It's 'Silent Spring' on a perpetual replay loop, and there appears to be no end to this insanity.
Thanks for the botanical advice. I'll hafta start foraging in my local forest. I grow my own figs, loquats, straws, and various beans in a fairly small garden, but that's not quite enough for a healthy diet. I'm gonna need a bigger garden.
If it swells their coffers, they will do it, make sure the govt. legislates for it & feds enforce it, and to hell with the planet.
Who cares what happens once they are gone?