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Hi,
I have been diagnosed with intestinal Candida (confirmed by a stool test) and leaky gut. The naturopath also noted that my TSH was slightly high (3.8 and 4.2 during two separate blood tests). A few months ago I was diagnosed with lactose intolerance and SIBO and placed on Antibiotics (Rifaximin), which helped my digestive issues, though they subsequently returned about a month later. With regards to the Candida, I have been placed on a very strict Paleo diet by the Naturopath I saw- I am only allowed to eat meats/fish and veggies (no potatoes, though sweet potatoes are okay) and two small pieces of fruit a day. This is supplemented by Oregano Oil supplements (10 days on, 10 days off), probiotics, and digestive enzymes as well as melatonin for insomnia. I have been tested for Celiac and gluten intolerance (via genetic test) as well and those were negative.
I am incredibly skinny and lost alot of weight earlier this year due to some personal issues and an attempt to eat healthier that in reality (and without realizing) was way too calorie restrictive, while also exercising way too hard for my calorie intake. I was never anorexic in terms of thinking I was fat but i definitely became too obsessed with eating healthy and my caloric intake was probably less than 1000 calories after working out for months. I think this may be the root of why I started to have digestive issues, though I have no idea (I also moved abroad, etc).
In terms of symptoms,I started with alot of bloating (especially during the evening), horrible gas, going to the bathroom rarely with loose stools, and feeling of fullness/pressure. I was also pretty easily irritable, depressed, have Raynaud's (cold hands/feet), trouble sleeping, and had alot of trouble concentrating/memory. Post the rifaximin, I felt much better for awhile but eating a "normal" and thus higher calorie diet caused severe diarrhea and abdominal pain. I am supposed to be going for a colonoscopy soon, as the Dr. suspects that the bacterial and now Candida infections point to digestive issues as the root cause.
Anyways, has anyone had success on the Candida diet? I have had less digestion issues since following the strict veggie & meat/fish (with some fruit) that I have been on but I find myself very tired and still losing weight.
To be honest, looking online is so confusing with regards to the Candida diet. Ie, Quinoa & grains is okay in some sites, not on others. Others say completely no grain and no fruits, others no. I'm willing to follow the diet if it will help cure me but I am honestly losing more weight and have very low energy, despite consuming spoonfuls of coconut oil and being very liberal in adding olive oil. I am 5'10" and have dropped to 100lbs so continuing to follow this diet and possibly lose more weight scares me. I have yet to see that it has really helped cure many people. Any thoughts/suggestions on how I can help cure my digestion issues?
I would like to incorporate some type of grain or carbohydrates if people have seen that it works for them in the battle against Candida so as to up my caloric intake. I just find the low sugar/low carb confusing, as I understand (though correct me if I'm wrong) that the body will convert fat and protein to glucose if needed so it seems like Sugar will eventually be in the body anyways for the candida to consume...
Thanks for any help and advice
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This is a reply to # 2,144,492I think at 100 lbs and 5'10" you are far under "healthy weight". As you have found out through experience, that diet does not live up to its hype.
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"The diet seemed to help a little, but the yeast was still there. I sank into a Depression after six months of “healthy living.” With every meal, I began to feel like I was just force-feeding myself so that I could get through the day.
“Why do you stick with it?” my boyfriend asked one day.
“Because I don’t want to be sick,” I replied.
“But is the diet even helping?”
“A little? Dr. Sal said it would take a few years. You know, baby steps.”
"At the end of June, after almost seven months, I went back to a regular diet. I’d lost 40 pounds. My cheeks were sunken, and I had dark circles under my eyes. I needed nutrients. I needed to feel normal again."
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Agreed, the so-called candida diet (which doesn't even exist) or paleo diets are the worst possible diets you can follow, especially in your situation (addressing the original poster) of being underweight. The only benefit to paleo or low-carb diets is you will have less digestive discomfort because proteins don't tend to ferment in the intestines when your digestion is sluggish, however long-term low-carb diets will make everything 100 times worse including digestion, most people become totally carb-intolerant and develop other food intolerances on a low-carb diet because their digestion becomes extremely impaired. Avoid this diet like the plague. You need a healthy balanced diet with plenty of carbohydrates in your situation. It may not feel comfortable for now because you are likely not digesting most of your food and then it is fermenting in your intestines but that doesn't mean your body still doesn't need it. You need to correct your digestion and overall balance of your body. Any doctor that you go to should be telling you how they are going to get you back into balance. If they suggest paleo diets (or any other fad diets) or anti-fungals to treat candida, they have no clue how to treat the body as a whole and are no better than regular mainstream Western medicine (which is completely pathetic of course). The absolute key to curing candida is correcting your digestive function and immune system, it has nothing to do with starving the candida or blasting it out with anti-fungals.- Re: Candida diet, already super skin... #171540
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This is a reply to # 2,144,571Thank you very much for all your help. I understand that Paleo may not always necessarily be low-carb but the current version of Paleo that the naturopath has me on definitely is- I am only allowed veggies & protein and 2 fruits a day. I definitely have issues with Carbs as when I went home over Christmas I just decided to try eating normally (plus all the Christmas goodies) to see if digestive issues would just disappear if I ate normally. The result was severe abdominal pain and diarrhea for 2 weeks. It was awful. Shortly after was when I was diagnosed with Candida and the diet stopped the diarrhea and pain (though it comes back every once in awhile). I definitely agree that I dont think the diet is the best for me. I expressed my concerns to the Dr. and he just told me to eat more avocado and coconut to get more calories.
Any suggestions on how to improve digestion and avoid intolerances when transitioning to a regular carb or regular diet? I want to be able to eat carbs and everything but am afraid of returning to feeling horribly sick, as I need to work, live etc. I definitely have candida in the intestine... how can I eradicate it? Everything I see points to this diet...- Re: Candida diet, already super skin... saywhatagain
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I understand your situation very well and it is very difficult to correct your digestion once it has got to this state. It is important to understand that you have candida because your digestion is impaired, not the other way round. Most people think you just need to eliminate candida, then your body returns to a healthy state, it is the opposite, help your body to return to a healthy state and candida will also be removed. It is hard to give specific advice to you because I don't really know enough about you, but what I would say is that however you got yourself in this situation, do the opposite to get yourself out. So you were under-eating, over-excersicing, malnourished and that is what got you sick, so do the opposite to correct your health. Eat regular, nourishing, healthy meals, with a healthy balance of carbohydrates, fat and protein and keep consistent meal times. You should prepare your own food and it should be all foods in their natural state, unprocessed. As I said, yes carbohydrates may cause digestive issues currently, but that doesn't mean they are bad for you or that you should avoid them. This is a very common mistake people make, myself included, to avoid carbohydrates and you set yourself on a path to disease and suffering for a long time. I see the pattern time and time again on curezone of people that eat low-carb, they feel a bit better for a while but over time develop more and more food intolerances and eventually notice that even their low-carb diet makes them feel sick by this point you have dug yourself a very deep hole that becomes more and more difficult to get out of. Don't exercise too much, go for relaxing walks and do slow-paced yoga. No you can't just eat normal food, you have to take care, find the foods that give you the least amount of reaction, some people do well on potatoes and squash, for me white basmati rice is great. You may want to go easy on the fruits for now, but you have to find nourishing carbohydrate foods that you can eat on a regular basis. Coconut oil and avocados are fine but they should not be a staple of your diet.- Re: Candida diet, already super skin... kesoccer28
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This is a reply to # 2,144,670okay...many thanks for the quick reply! :)
I have always eaten "regular" meals (3 times a day, 2 snacks a day) but I will definitely work on increasing the calorie intake in each meal by incorporating carbohydrates. Will probably lay off bread for now but will try to incorporate rice, oats, quinoa, etc until I feel like my body can handle gluten/bread. Any other suggestions on food? I usually snack on fruit or yogurt but had to stop the yogurt with the lactose intolerance. I recently tried tahini (though this technically wasnt allowed) but noticed my symptoms were worse with it so i stopped. Potatoes and sweet potatoes are definitely a good idea. Will try the sweet potatoes tonight.
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Yes, I would agree staying away from bread is probably wise. Modern wheat is a toxic poison that shouldn't be consumed by humans. Anything with yeast in it will tend to ferment more in the intestines. Rice, oats and quinoa seem pretty safe, amaranth is also very good but the taste may not be for everyone, very nutritious though. If you eat fruit it should be eaten alone not combined with anything this will decrease fermentation in the gut. Some fruits will ferment more than others, see what you feel okay with. I find it strange that you have symptoms of lactose intolerance from yogurt, as the bacteria in the yogurt actually breaks down and digests the lactose so there is very little lactose if any by the time you consume it. You could be feeling a reaction of the probiotics themselves, some people can have problems with fermented foods.
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This is a reply to # 2,144,797Yes... I alternate between VSL #3, something I found here called "cumeflora" and Lactobillus Reuteri. I take at least one probiotic in the morning and alternate days of taking another at night.
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This is a reply to # 2,144,816I will say this and hope it is of help. Paleo diets and low carb/high animal protein was nearly the death of me. Sure, it stopped some of the fermentation symptoms at first and bandaided a few things for a while, but my digestion became so bad, my intestines so full of putrid fecal matter, and weight plummeted to 125 lbs... I was eating 3000 kcal of meat, butter, veggies and dying.
I then knew I had to drastically alter things. It wasn't until I went vegan, eliminating meat and mucous forming foods while cleansing my colon for the past 6 months that things have changed for me. I've gained fifteen lbs, lost lbs of mucoid plaque from me, and dead yeast is now coming out of me like nobody's business, along with the dead fecal matter it was hiding behind.
Sure, I eat a lot of fat right now, but also a lot of carbs (from legumes, veggies, avocados, nutritional yeast).
Base your diet around fresh, raw vegetables, greens, some good health oils (especially coconut) and make sure you get your nutritional yeast for B vitamins... black beans have also been a staple for me.
But like has been said, impaired digestion, lack of good bacteria, and putrid dead waste in the colon causing constipation are at the cause of a candida overgrowth. Address these with a balanced diet and colon cleanse, along with fermented foods, and you're on your way to healing this beast. I'm finally almost there... passing colonies of dead yeast daily and eating 200 + grams of carbs a day. :)- Re: Candida diet, already super skin... kesoccer28 10 y 9,901
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This is a reply to # 2,144,847wow... Could you talk a little bit about what you specifically did to cleanse your colon? Many thanks for your story...gives me hope!
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Sugar is definitely your enemy at the moment. It won't always be but while you have an overgrowth of candida it is the one sure thing that is going to make it much worse. I know this from experience. I have a reasonable suspicion that I got candidiasis from eating too many of those glace pineapples in the first place. Simply delicious but certainly not worth the 2 years of suffering that it gave me.
I also agree with the other posters here that refined carbs are also your enemy. If you check my other posts you can see how I finally got rid of mine. I think it's important to have good amounts of roughage .. cleans the bowels out apart from keeping you regular. That doesn't mean not cooking .. you still get roughage out of cooked vegetables and many vegetables you can't get the goodies out of them unless they are cooked.
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This is a reply to # 2,144,932I definitely have issues with digestion... I feel like everything just sits there, fermenting and feeding all the bacteria and yeast in my stomach (I previously had a bacterial infection in the small intestine). No matter how much veggies & protein I eat, I can´t quite seem to get rid of it. For this reason, I´ve been taking the pancreatic enzymes to help digestion.
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This is a reply to # 2,145,001Hey there :)
I'd be happy to help. I know how this can ruin a life, so the more people who better understand how to regain their health the better.
First and foremost, there are too links that you should look into to getter a better understanding of what we're dealing with.
This explains the real issues that cause and exacerbate digestive issues and lead to overgrowth of harmful bacteria and yeast.
Basically, our intestines are a big tubing system, and when we eat lots of meat and things that have no fiber, it lays putrifying in the gut, and candida, the cleanup crew of our body, goes to work feeding on all of this matter.
The problem with the candida diet is that it only addresses the Sugar issue... and it never addresses the overgrowths true food source, dead and decaying food and organic matter... think fungus and mushrooms growing and decomposing dead trees.
So basically what I did was this. I was at a point where I needed ALOT of calories to maintain my weight early in July... like 3000 kcal of avocados, oils, beans, veggies, and have been able to be satiated and cut back on what I'm eating as I've been cleaning out my colon, as my digestion is improving, and I'm taking in more of what I'm eating.
Two products were God sends.
First, the herbal laxative that shakes off the dead and decaying mucoid plaque and matter.
Cascara Sagrada: Then...
The fiber/herbal mix to move the matter OUT.
ABC Bulk Aerobic Cleanse: I have been taking 1T a day since July.
Now, I would start slow. Start changing around your diet and start on the laxative... The worst foods to eat for your digestion are dairy and meat. What I did was go to mainly raw frozen or fresh brocolli and greens beans/peppers/etc etc... and enough black beans, pinto beans, etc for carbs.. Also making sure you get Nutritional Yeast for the B vitamins is very important when going vegan, because you aren't eating meat.
It took a few months to start really getting alot of plaque out, but now I am passing stuff that's been in my colon and small intestines for years in every BM... along with yeast colonies, which were hiding behind the plaque...
So keys:
1) Go vegan, and make sure you're eating enough to stay full
2) Incorporate Coconut Oil (a few T) into your diet and any other healthy oils, avocados if weight is an issue
3) I would avoid grains at this point, but legumes are fine and have lots of fiber to push things through
At first the gas will be a lot. You may feel like it's getting worst, but it does before it gets better. I basically have no gas now whatsoever no matter what I'm eating (still vegan of course), but it takes a while... eating fermented foods that are raw is key, but you may want to wait until you clean your colon for a while.
I would also look into Bragg's Raw Apple Cider Vinegar.. it will help with hunger, digestion, is an antifungal, and helps dissolve and loosen plaque.
Any more questions, let me know :)
PS: It's scarey to change things drastically, but if I didn't I'd be in big trouble or worse right now. I'm now having 3 good bms a day with the laxative and Cleanse, but it will take a while to get my intestines exercised enough to do this on their own.
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This is a reply to # 2,145,022PS: I left some links out, but will correct after school, I got to run. :)
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This is a reply to # 2,145,022As far as the links go, I can't post them.
Search for "journey to the center of the colon" on google, and read it up. It will explain this all for you!
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This is a reply to # 2,145,072Many thanks for all the suggestions and support. I definitely have been eating the majority of my veggies cooked, as I think its easier for my system to digest. I will try to incorporate more raw veggies as well though.
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This is a reply to # 2,145,321It may be a good idea to start eating them very lightly steamed, and then work your way to more raw... Until you really get your digestion strong again, it may be hard to digest completely raw veggies, although I go hog wild.. I was eating like 4 lbs of raw veggies a day lol.
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This is a reply to # 2,145,345Also, when you are selecting legumes to eat, try Navy Beans... apparently when soaked and cooked correctly, they can be antifungal due to their high Saponin count.
Just look up Navy Beans, antifungal... Just had .5 cup and didn't get a reaction, except the normal die off reactions I get with antifungals :) - Re: Candida diet, already super skin... #69242
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This is a reply to # 2,145,345My son has got cold hands and feet and possibly raynards which started when I gave him lactobacillus. Gg. He has candida. He has other issues to. He to has lost wait and recently has a bad seizure and spent 3 days in hospital. He is currently on an antibacterial but it is not curing the problem and we have to do the moat test in five weeks time to find out what damage the probiotic has done.
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I know that When I increase my sons carbs to a higher level his nose starts to run and he starts to become unwell. He does have carbs but I constantly have to monitor the situation. He does well on low carbs but on higher carb grains they make him I'll, in fact they effect his brain and his gut.- Re: Candida diet, already super skin... Chitta
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This is a reply to # 2,145,691Not all carbs are created equal. With some people, certain sorts of carbs can make them very sick while others are fine. If you google FODMAPs and Monash University, you'll see what I am talking about. Many, many people have been helped by sticking to a low FODMAPs diet.
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This is a reply to # 2,145,689Is he eating any anti-fungal foods?
Some good ones to start him on are raw garlic, raw onions, coconut oil, olive oil, kale, brocolli, brussel sprouts... and as far as probiotics... buy raw fermented foods like raw saurkraut. More effective and safe... natural.
What does his diet look like? and what do you mean by carbs???
Good thing to do also would be to buy some nutritious seeds like flax and chia seeds and see how he likes them. - Raynards, chilblains and pain relief bound2tease
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This is a reply to # 2,145,689Hi, hope things are better for your son. I've just recently come across socks with silver thread which are to reduce heat loss experienced by people with Raynards. If it's too late and you have painful, itchy chilblains, then you may want to apply an insulated tongue electrode (come with some vintage violet wand sets) this will genuinely relieve pain.
Raynards can be extremely painful due to the body tempreture being significantly colder - the right hand-hand belongs to someone with Raynards
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