Hi Chubster..

Serious??..

'A 21 day Water Fast to kick things off followed by the 4/3 plan where you eat whatever you want for 4 days a week and Water Fast for the other 3'. Hurrah!??

U can't be serious about about this plan!! Just a question.. any ideas about Wisdom of a Water Fast (or any liquid fast) at all? Loosing weight? And then pig out on everything possible 4 times a week and then fast again? Do u really think ur body will allow u to keep going with all that in a long run??.. Do u really think u will be in a perfect shape (with no basic excercises)? I think u need to Think again.

First of all let me tell u about RE-feeding time after long (or any fasts) which should be EQUAL to the amount of days u are on fast (!).

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Then have u heard about Jon Gabriel who gained gradually but surely LOADS of weight (he became eventually 400 pounds) coz he tried every single diet Known! And eventually even restrictions in callories did not bring results at all but gaining weight instead.

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Type in a search program 'Jon Gabriel before and after pictures' and see how he looked and how he looks now.

He lost all his weight for 2 and a half years WITHOUT ANY DIETING but eating good and healthy good and loads of raw!.. also spirulina, chlorella, chia seeds, aloe vera, bee polen and other Mother Nature wonders which will help u too to NURISH ur body... The person cant loose weight and his body resisting coz it is Natural body surviving mechanism. Initially body srores toxins in a blood stream and then when it is not able to keep them all there it strats keeping them in a fat which is the safest place for the body... and when a person strats loosing weight by dieting or through gym the body start resisiting and through loosing weight toxins become dangerous for the health of that person coz they are loosing its 'fatty surounding' which kept them quite safe. So in order to loose weight HEALTHILY and without body resistense u do need to DETOX ur body by eating good Mother Nature foods and be even veg if poss... if not then buy meet which was grass fed and no hormons and Antibiotics added to it. And exactly thanks to that that guy, Jon Gabriel lost all his not good weight and started looking the way he looks now (the theory I mentioned above about fat and toxins is his).

Ya, may be Water Fasting is a good kick start of ur new healthy life but I am telling u, and MARK MY WORDS, if u gonna eat CRAP after ur fast (and hope at least u wil be wise enough to RE-feed urself for the EQUAL amount of ways after (closer to the end of ur fast ask ppl here of how to refeed or even ask now! I will send u a link later here about Water Fasting itself). So if u gonna eat crap for 4 days and then fast again - NAH u will be the same weight if not more and I am TELLING u u will damage ur health even more!Wonna prove me and the whole world that u are right and we are wrong - TRY.But no regrets after. ;)

http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020127shelton.III/020127.toc.htm (proteins and carbs are allowed only on day 6-7 of RE-feeding after long fasts and healthy fats in lil amounts on day 4.. Chris plz correct me if I am not that right about it.

So here we go. ;)

Nadia

Ps: I do think u need to order this movie which wil be a TREMENDOUS help for ur KICK START OF ur health journey.. Sorry, guy, but I am afraid it is the only way to be in shape in a long run. :)

http://www.facebook.com/hungryforchangefilm?fref=ts

Also plz consider ordering Hungry for Change mastery through that website if u want coz the interview with Jon Habriel is there and so many others from health experts. :)

"I just hate the constant misery of a diet."

You're wasting your time.

Trying to "diet" temporarily and then pig out on shit food, will never get you anywhere.

The only way to make meaningful change is LIFESTYLE CHANGE. Eating a healthy diet, getting good sleep, minimizing stress, etc.

It all depends on how bad you want it. If you don't mind the emotional highs and lows of eating shit food and abusing your body, you're welcome to stay on that train till the last stop, it's your life, you can do whatever you want with it. For most people, change is the hardest thing.

Go to 30bananasaday.com for diet support.

Read 80 10 10 by doug graham.

adopt a raw vegan lifestyle. learn to enjoy healthy food THAT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD.

pretty simple stuff.

and if you do a long fast, then start binging on junk, it can literally kill you.

thanks for the feedback, I understand its not a convectional diet but hey if it works!

I'm a carnivore and will be breaking my fast with a bacon sandwich (keep dreaming of it!) so any birdseed is out I'm afraid.

I think the 4/3 is quite ok, there is a topselling book on Amazon which is the 5/2 so basically exactly what I'm doing. I'm just going to add an extra day until I reach my goal weight. I totally understand I can't pigout every day of course.

I'm well into day 4 now and have to say I'm feeling really good, no hunger pans just the usual dragon breath. Been quite an active day as well so fingers crossed for a good weigh in tomorrow morning.

You are correct ... if you only goal is to remain thin then this a plan.

If your goal is to remain healthy this is a bad plan.

The key to Water Fasting is the elimination of toxins. Toxins are what kill us. That is why a recommended diet of eating after a Water Fast is one that is closest to nature, because that is what will guarantee longevity. We know this by Science and research.

If you don't care about your overall health then go ahead and eat water ever you want ... if you care about your wrinkles, cellulite, joints, bowel movements, etc...then it is advised to stick with nature.

Your three babies deserve a healthy dad ... not just a thin dad.

"So I made up my mind, a 21 day Water Fast to kick things off followed by the 4/3 plan where you eat whatever you want for 4 days a week and Water Fast for the other 3."

WHERE YOU CAN EAT WHATEVER YOU WANT FOR 4 DAYS A WEEK AND Water Fast THE OTHER 3"

Yes you did say EAT WHATEVER YOU WANT. This plan is a joke...I've seen interview with this doctor. Go ahead and fast for 3 days a week, then throw down boxes of twinkies and bacon the other 4 days. Great way to get shit results and you are damaging your digestive system. Another "get slim quick" for lazy people. Unfortunately sometimes in life there are no shortcuts.

Like you said... it's your life and you can do whatever you want. Just wasting people's time though asking for support here when you plan to undo whatever healing happens during the fast with trash food.

just checking back in. Coming up to the end of day 6 and I've lost just over a stone. Which I am amazed at.

Not having a nice time though at the moment, feel sick all the time, have cramps in my legs and terrible heartburn.

Trying to stay positive and stick with it though.