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I have to go to nyc today and this weakness will prevent me from doing so. Just going to the bathroom makes my heart palpitate.
So I broke my fast with baked chicken. A small drumstick. I know I should have broken my fast with juice or fruit but I want to remain in ketosis. I shall resume my fast tomorrow.
I feel strong already. I chewed tiny pieces carefully, drank a lot of water in between bites, and it took me an hour just to eat a small piece of drumstick.
Thoughts anyone? Still wanna forward with fasting. In my opinion, the hunger pangs is nothing compared to the weakness I felt during my 7 day fast. So I should be ok restarting it tomorrow.
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This is a reply to # 1,686,314Congratulations on completing 8 days of water fasting. That's no easy feat. And you've jump started your healing process...it's already underway. : )
Always listen to your body when it comes to water fasting.
I will share...intuitively I'm picking up that you're under a lot of stress right now. Quite a lot...feels tense and it's impacting your emotional well being. Perhaps it's a good idea to simply refeed with highly nutritious food choices, rest, exercise, get plenty of sun, consume good clean water prior to fasting again. Resume another fast in a few weeks. If this doesn't work for you, at least consider you'd really benefit from juicing and choosing light foods at least 3-5 days before embarking on your next water fast if you choose to do another one right away. Think about why you're fasting and have a solid beaking your fast plan and post fast eating plan for the next one. Get yourself mentally geared up, write your goals down and breath them into your being.
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This is a reply to # 1,686,321P.S. Don't forget the molasses* and apple cider vinegar (w/the mother brand). It will work for you. No, they don't taste so great together, but they work together in shrinking fibroids and cysts. Best wishes!
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This is a reply to # 1,686,342I am in a lot of stress. The past two years has been awful. I am listebing to you about blackstrap molasses. I'm a research junkie and I read all about it. It's really nutient-packed. Very good for the body.
However I do not have time to fast again, I must continue on this journey until it's done, because I am moving to another state. That cannot be delayed.
I am feeling no bad effects from eating the chicken, just this instant energy that will help me to commute for an hour lol.
I am still in ketosis I hope. Before I started my fast I significantly reduced my carb intake and I'm guessing I was already in ketosis by day one.
Thank God my bf is very supportive (he does short fasts now and then).
So I will be at his place for a week, just drinking water and relaxing. No family to berate me for not eating.
So even though I broke my fast just for the sake of travel, the place I'm
going to is going to be even more conducive for fasting.
Thank you for your support! I appreciate it, I really do.
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You're very welcome. I think many of us have been in your shoes. Just do the best you can. Keep eating as well as you can, try to find time for yourself...this may help a lot. Have you looked into lymphatic drainage massage or any type of massage? I'm feeling this will really do wonders for your stress levels and overall well being. Acupuncture will offer you the same peace & serenity.
I don't think the ketosis is still underway unless perhaps you've resumed your water fast? What's maybe more important to consider is how far you've come and that you're totally aware of where you are and what you need to do next. I'm so glad to hear you have a supportive boyfriend. This is also helping you as well no doubt.
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This is a reply to # 1,686,817Louise Hay has a few healing books published regarding the emotional core of all dis-Ease in the body. I've copied some information from her Heal the Body from A-Z book:
I hope you don't mind and moreso hope it makes sense for you and you can work with it. I used the uterine fibroid new thought pattern affirmation and it worked in tandem with water fasting/changing my dietary choices to completely shrink the fibroids considerably. One more fast and they're gone! Poof. : )
Endometriosis
Probable (emotional) cause:
disappointment and frustration. replacing self love with sugar. blaming others.
New Thought Pattern:
I amboth powerful and desirable. It's wonderful to be a woman. I love myself and I am fulfilled.
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Probable cause:
Running the old painful movie. Nursing hurts. A false growth.
New Thought Pattern:
The movies of my mind are beautiful because I choose to make them so. I love me.
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its a good thing the word probable is used often by louise hay because its important to remember that theories and beliefs are not facts. if one fails to discern this major difference one remains as blind as those who 'believe' they will go to heaven and get 72 virgins in return for all the suffering they have caused.
likewise the theory that a 'particular' emotion is the root cause of a 'particular' dis-Ease doesn't make sense because its obvious (if one looks around) that ALL (average) human beings are experiencing that particular emotion to varying degrees on a daily basis, yet all do not suffer that particular disease. likewise plenty of people are narcissistic (love themselves) or have every reason to think well of themselves but still suffer the same particular disease.
emotions are emotions period. their difference in degree is not a difference in kind. all emotions (good or bad) jerk the nervous system around. if you look deeply enough you'll discover your greatest fear is not fear itself, but the effect it has on the body. we are only ever 'directly' afraid of our own physical responses.
at some stage or other, variations of every emotion run riot to varying degrees in (almost) all of us causing every kind of discomfort and illness ...until one day... in desperation we finally choose to look deeper and find the root cause of all emotional reactions.
the fact is there can be no peace and freedom from dis ease if one keeps using the same ol' tried and failed emotional carrot (love) or stick (anger/frustration) approach. we only STILL struggle today - even worse - because manipulating (trying to control) the emotions is never a *permanent* solution. eventually they throw about *again* like a tiny boat without an oar on a choppy sea.
um... perhaps its time to bark up a different tree?
to become peace and freedom from disease and emotional distress [once and for all] one must find out what is at the root of ALL emotions (not just the bad but the good also) because only then can one ascertain whether they truly are cast in *actual* stone, or whether they (shock horror;-) can be deleted like software.
other peoples theories can't/don't do this fundamental research for you. only you can look into into what makes you tick (or why you don't *want* to - hint; same source). if you don't want to then youre quite free to remain ill and ignorant and keep dragging this planet down with you while lamenting that you are powerless (those of us in freer societies ) and that life is a vale of tears.
but for those who do want to live benign free lives for their own health and well being of the whole planet there is only one way to do it and that is to LOOK deeper than the surface emotions and examine their root source; the deeper instinctual passions that we share with all sentient animals. this root of the human condition takes guts to examine and leads to a mutation of the human brain which then becomes free of any need to control or be controlled. one is then finally sensible and *out 'from' control* (not out 'of' control) permanently.
...in preparation for this great feat, this great leap to freedom that no other instinctively driven animal can do (and few humans so far) the human brain has evolved.
P.S. no religion required, just a return to one's senses which requires the use of an instinct stronger than SELF survival (altruism). for this brave act of sincere inquiry ends something destructive but held most dear (senseless emotional reactivity) and the body is then released from their tyranny and full health mental and physical restored *permanently* for the benefit of everyone and everything on the planet, not just oneself.
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This is a reply to # 1,688,345I would tend to agree with actualhealth.
Emotions and ones mental state may have a profound influence on ones physical health or not, depending on the individuals ability to cope.
There is no doubt that prolonged anxieties and other prolonged mental states can have a deleterious health-effect.
It can also be a case of the chicken before or after the egg!
Is the root-cause of the physical-health malady within the mental state, or the mental-health caused by the physical-malady as in deficiencies?
They can be both and are intrinsically bound together.
Natural Hygiene believes that disease is caused by toxemia or retained toxins, which in turn can be caused by ones emotional/mental state by lowering nerve-force or the bodily vitality. Bodily waste/toxemia is therefore retained through an inefficient or impaired elimination process.
I am of the opinion that a healthy mind can only be achieved within a healthy body, and for me would be the first avenue of exploration. Once this probable cause has been eliminated, then mind techniques such as EFT and other psychological channels of help would follow in addressing the malady.
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i certainly did underestimate your intelligence and good will when i first arrived here chris and i'm so delighted to have been wrong.
i think the case of the chicken or the egg might be easily solved (do correct my short sightedness if you see it) by considering the alternatives.
what sort of deficiencies and toxins would now exist on the earth if the rise of humanity had been dominated from the get go by a thoughtful unselfish intelligence instead of a primarily self concerned instinctively driven passionate me-first one? would we even have 10% of the ill health and physical disabilities we face today?
if we had not been so self absorbed from the beginning, would we have been more observant about the interconnectedness and cooperative nature of life on our planet and seen the benefit in playing an intelligent role in that?
if we were not so blindly infatuated by our emotional desires would we not have looked outward instead and made it top priority to learn to predict (as no other animal can) the massive weather and earth movements so as to avoid being maimed or prematurely killed? would we not have been more sensible and examined more thoroughly the effects our chemical pollutants might have on its delicate balance *before*releasing them?
if we'd had half a brain from the beginning all this unnecessary emotional and physical pain would not exist and we would see the senselessness in compounding it and doubling our suffering with an emotional component lamenting "woe is me" and hindering the immune system's healing process even further.
so one has to wonder, can "a healthy mind only be achieved within a healthy body"? because if thats the case theres not much hope for us, given the toxic planet we have made and that all life is now struggling to maintain its health in.
i think the reverse is the only option we have. and this is where curezone comes in. here we are learning - with what little intelligence can still surface in our unhealthy bodies - to educate ourselves in how to restore natural health. and this is going on in horticulture as well. the mind is having to step over the emotional-me-first-bully for the healing to begin. like fasting, desire initiates the journey but intelligence maintains the momentum that brings the health back home.
i am just so thankful that this information hwy has finally arrived. in fact earlier would have been better, but our slowness was inevitable - if our origin was purely evolution - and thats a whole other topic.
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This is a reply to # 1,688,438Actualhealth,
I think that if the human race had a dominance of an unselfish and altruistic/humanitarian intelligence, as opposed to the primarily selfish/greed model, then you are absolutely right: we would have far far less disease and ill-health than we do today.
I recall that Paul (Saul) of the New Testament, referred to this as the "sinful nature".
There are many "ifs", but again I do agree with you that if we had cooperated with Nature, as opposed to our ever-ending quest to divorce ourselves from it, then toxicity and deficiency would play a far less significant role than it does today.
There is a lot to be said for the role and existence of Dolphins, as we have arrogantly placed ourselves on the pedestal of "the supreme-being" within our World, and this will I believe be our downfall in the centuries to come.
The sinful nature, as Paul described, is our predominant subconscious motivation in life, and the love of money behind most things Human.
I don't believe I mentioned that "a healthy mind is only achieved in a healthy body" but as a mere starting point in resolving a multitude of health anomalies; once we have achieved as near a perfect physical specimen as is attainable through nutrition/natural hygiene/fasting and exercise, then one must resort to other factors within the psychological realm in resolving them.
There is of course a unity of mind/body and spirit: "the peace which passeth all understanding".
The masses are mostly duped into believing "authority" without question, and this includes establishment health-authorities, but curezone was born out of the lack of their success and utter failure for those who are free-thinking and intelligent enough to decide their own fate or otherwise. The mind and logic has had to guide us in everything we do. I wouldn't be here otherwise.
We can only do what we can do and spread the word by "Educating instead of Medicating" and where this is a growing global-body fighting the metaphorical-cancer that surrounds us all.
We can only hope unless there is a revolution.
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we're basically on the same page Chris, i just see it from a different viewpoint, as you'll see ;-)
from the looks of evolution, human dis Ease and our damage to the planet is an inevitable process that blind nature (which includes us) had to go thru. it seems the earlier instinctual emotional mid-brain began to reveal dearth of commonsense and this prompted the necessity for a cortical update (the neo cortex) and this new enhanced motor and cognitive skills is now struggling to integrate with a still dominant instinctual emotionally reactive wilder-beasty mid-brain.
one of the essential benefits of this new cortex is that the primitive core of the human condition is now much easier to observe. we can examine it now with a self reflective awareness that animals and primal man never had and whats becoming obvious is that certain ancient instinctual reactions (of the animal emotional mid-brain) do not meld well with the awakening intelligence of the new cortex.
these two brains operate with polar opposite paradigms. one uses an inward focussed non-tangible emotionally instinctive meme (aboriginal dreamtime spirituality) and the other strives for mental clarity and cognitive skills focused on exploring the factual tangible world of actuality using mental tools that are incomprehensible to pure instictive emotion driven animals such as primitive mankind.
this cognitive dissonance has gone on for over 10 thousand years now, stressing our nervous systems and blindly wrecking havoc all over the planet.
what we are discovering is that when the new cortical intelligence stubbornly clings to ancient emotional mid-brain intinctual reactions, then intelligence morphs into a emotionally malicious and cunning consciousness more dangerous and destructive than any other animal on the planet. and this is bringing our species to make or break crossroads. we literally are (at present) half wits. this old tribal instinctual brain (herd instinct etc) that once served an important survival purpose is - by being clung to - now hindering the development of the necessary benign and benevolent future intelligence of mankind.
the primitive self-glorifying homosapien brain has build a dream culture with its ancient brain and is now reluctant (afraid) to walk out of that emotional ocean of swirling reactive passions into the bright calm light of factual sensate existence. humankind is having to face a fundamental realization that our invisible man-made worlds have become obsolete (dinosaurs). the territorial emotional brain is not sensible enough to cooperate with the actual world of nature. all our attempts to superimpose its dreams and schemes have only made our bodies (including the planet) more ill.
basically we have no choice, either come to our senses (integrate and configure the awakening intelligence) or become extinct.
P.S.
good news about the dolphins! http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/environment/2009/sep/-The-Cove--Could-Hal...
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This is a reply to # 1,689,624Indeed Actualhealth. Very good news about Dolphins.
My original point was that I think they are more intelligent than homosapiens, and only restricted by their physique out of water.
I recall a group of dolphins protecting naval personnel from sharks after having to abandon ship in the Pacific.
Interesting post and information, but a little beyond my area of study (till now that is).
Very enlightening.
Thank you.
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This is a reply to # 1,689,667thanks Chris, yes i did get your point about the dolphins, its been a favored sentiment for many generations.
you wrote: "It can also be a case of the chicken before or after the egg! Is the root-cause of the physical-health malady within the mental state, or the mental-health caused by the physical-malady as in deficiencies? They can be both and are intrinsically bound together."
as i see it (since nature does not promote deficiencies or malignancies unless to remove a life form) then the root cause of human illness (and planetary poisoning) is the mental/emotional state. basically its the misuse (non-use sometimes) of our evolving intelligence to promote instead (worship even) stressful emotional excesses. it seems the boost to human intelligence that nature saw the dire need for has yet to kick in.
so far most human beings haven't grokked that this brain is evolving to override the instinctual passions rather than remain emotionally traumatized (imprison) as all primal animals are. instead we are misusing this amazing brain to make of life into a self serving snuff movie.
basically dis-ease happens when something either dies too soon, or lives too long and our primitive emotional instincts have lived too long and are now stunting the growth of the intelligence required to reach ultimate healthy and freedom from emotional trauma, i.e., peace on earth *as this actual flesh and blood body*
for probably more than 30,000 yrs now, we've been living a schizophrenic fantasy that we (and dolphins) are wonderful spiritual beings even tho we are in *fact* the most emotionally violent creatures to ever walk the earth!
and its only because we refuse to use the evolving cortex for beneficial purposes, but instead remain (like all mammals including WILD dolphins) dominated by natures primitive mid-brain rough and ready instinctual-emotional survival package that we now have a malignant (cunning, malicious, pointlessly destructive, cruel and warring) intelligence, as described here:
http://www.doublex.com/blog/oystersgarter/dark-secrets-dolphins-dont-want-you...
not exactly the superior benign intelligence we DREAM we and they are. the dolphin's only saving grace is as you said Chris - but for different reasons - the limitations of their physique. otherwise they, like us, would be inflicting pain and suffering (with a smattering of self-serving, nurture and desire [love] thrown in) on the scale we do.
tis fortunate indeed that only one species has misused its awakening intelligence to crown itself with the delusion that it is an immortal (dissociated) self-glorifying narcissistic spiritually divine being.
the sooner mankind cuts the crystal gazing and comes to its senses the better. the survival of ALL life depends on it. but sadly most are so busy crowning themselves they don't have the intelligence to care.
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This is a reply to # 1,690,822Actualhealth,
there is an element of truth within your post in that emotional/mental states are sometimes the cause of disease, followed by a disorder and deficiency.
This however is not my own experience, or that of thousands of others who have recovered their health thru proper living habits, and whose principles have been endorsed by Natural Hygiene for nigh on 200 years.
We believe that the root cause (not excluding emotional states) lies with toxemia or the retention of toxins brought on by a lowered state of vitality, or what Shelton, Tilden and others described as a "lowered-nerve-force" resulting from enervating habits.............
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020103toxemia/02010301.html
Undoubtedly there is a psychological/mental/emotional factor that can induce disease, but we do not believe it is the primary cause.
My own life experience bears this out after recovering from Leukemia thru Natural Hygiene, and a lifelong state of severe clinical depression, the latter of which was cured by targeted nutrition or Orthomolecular means.
I respect your views, but as this is not a debate forum we'd better leave it at that or we could go on forever tooing and froing till kingdom come.
I have been disease-free for nigh on 30 years so that must say something I suppose.
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This is a reply to # 1,690,859hi Chris,
i know, my observations do not paint a pretty picture and given our predilection to think highly of ourselves are rarely welcome, but i do hope they caused no distress to anyone here as they also point towards a light at the end of the tunnel, which is the correct (sensible) use of the cortex to restore health, as you do along with the increasing numbers of people of good sense. and i must commend you on your tolerance towards thoughts so contrary to your own (and RockStarEnergyHealer :-) it is a blessing to us all.
basically all i'm understanding (as you do) is that most of our childhood diseases and disorders (such as your leukemia) are probably'may the result of toxic pesticides and the Genetically-Modified changes and deficiencies they cause to our food. the use of pesticides has a centuries long history and reached unprecedented proportions in the century of our birth so its very likely.
but i'm also pointing to the *primary* cause of this toxemia which is the overextended use of the evolving homosapien brain for primarily, self focused, overemotional purposes, when it is now fully equipped to move ahead (as many people are discovering) and become an asset to nature instead of an ongoing detriment.
in the last decade (and this was my initial reason for wanting to know your particular type of leukemia) it has been acknowledged by the US medical system that the use of agent orange in vietnam caused such a phenomenal rise in soldiers contracting the most prevalent form of leukemia (CLL) far beyond the stats of the normal population, that now anyone who fought in that invasion who contracts leukemia at any stage in their life, is automatically entitled (without delay) to the best medical assistance and back-dated disability benefits that the US government can offer.
but ultimately what will confirm that our ignorance (lack of knowledge) and excessive emotionalism was at the root of all our ills will be these unprecedented digital recordings of the medical history of many, many, future generations (hopefully) as they ended chemical poisoning, calmed down and came to their senses and returned to perfect health.
and i must say, upon ending this thread, its been a delight to converse with you. there are few people able to realize so young - as you did 30 yrs ago - that natures reward for using ones head instead of medication is the return of the great gift of vibrant good health.
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This is a reply to # 1,688,345Thank you Chris and Actual Health for your thoughts. Everyone of us views life through our own filters and I completely respect your opinions and life experience.
As a generational psychic medium I see the truth in there being a linkage to stress & negative emotions resulting in the physical manifestation of illness in the [physical] body. In addition to our physical body, we also have several, if you will, [invisible] bodies. One of which is the emotional body. I've provided thousands of medical intuitive readings and in my own personal experience, being a sensitive to energy, I've seen how there is a strong correlation to emotional pain or repression and various diseases without going into explicit detail. I've seen continuously a direct linkage between self-hatred and the development of cancer in the body as an example. When the emotional body is healed it seems to spontaneously heal the physical [human] body in most people. Or at the very least increase the odds of experiencing greater healing in the body & raised awareness so that the recovering person can take their next healing steps with a strong foundation & great motivation.
Not everyone needs to agree with this and it doesn't even have to make sense. I'm very much okay with that. : ) However, when I know something to be true from a spiritual point of view I share it as that's what I'm here to do. It's part of my life purpose.
I trust the original poster will receive the information as it was initially intended for her and not necessarily shared to get into a debate with regard to healing methods and practices. I know if she resonates with it, it will eventually reveal itself to her in due time....now or in years to come.
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This is a reply to # 1,686,314Hi Lifebegins,
I just wanted to say I think you have done incredibly well to get to 8 days when you have been fasting under such difficult circumstances. I would have succumbed much sooner in your situation, so well done indeed. You have a lot of strength and could fast much longer if you have the chance. Don't trouble yourself with thanking me, I know you are grateful for the support :-)
Best wishes
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