Day 4 Fasting - Feeling Extremely Co... 
tierra
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I have a cold body, and I do usually feel even colder than usual when fasting (warm food and digestion generates heat). It's just seems worse this time.
I'm Day 4 into juice fasting, feeling extremely cold no matter how much clothes I wear. The heat is already cranked up to 78F, hands and feet are still shivering. It's been like that for the past 3 days and seems to be getting worse progressively.
I cannot up the cayenne because of a hemorrhoid flare-up. I do add a thumb of ginger to every cup of juice I drink. It helps a little, but not enough. It's kinda hard to heal when you're constantly cold. I wonder if I should have strengthened my adrenals and glands a little prior to fasting/detoxing which can be harsh to the body.
Any tips and support would be greatly appreciated.
-many thx.
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- Re: Day 4 Fasting - Feeling Extremel... healinginHiswings
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This is a reply to # 1,397,760Hurray! You've got perfect textbook juice fasting symptoms going on! The crowd cheers wildly!
But that doesn't get you warm. :-)
Try this: alternate your colder juices with hot teas and the yummy Potassium Broth. I got so cold when I started my fast I'd carry my glass of juice AND a coffee cup of something hot at the same time. It worked.
I, like you, also wore more clothes, wore socks, wrapped up in a quilt, and even had my son build a fire in the fireplace and "lived there" for a couple of days.
Another thing to play with is "not" refrigerating your juicing produce so it's room temperature. Or, juice every glass fresh, drink it immediately, and don't put it in the refrigerator in the jars like we talked about.
I hate to go to bed cold, so I always did (actually, still do) either a hot/cold shower ending with hot or a long almost steaming hot herbal bath right before bedtime. Sometimes I got so cold I'd take a hot shower in the middle of the day just to try to warm up my insides.
Try these tips and see if they help. You are doing exactly what you should be doing. :-) I am so proud of you.
Wings
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- Re: Day 4 Fasting - Feeling Extremel... tierra
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,397,798Wings,
Thx for the encouragement and the wonderful tips! I'm warming up beanies in the microwave and carrying them around. I found a pair of skin-color stretchy gloves to wear around. I'm a total freak!
The only time I feel warm is the nighty bath I take before bed. I put lavender and magnesium oil in the bath, they help me to relax. I totally agree, going to bed cold is a definite no-no!
-tie
- Re: Day 4 Fasting - Feeling Extremel... tierra
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- Re: Day 4 Fasting - Feeling Extremel... kalena.rising
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This is a reply to # 1,397,760Hi
Tierra,
I was wondering if garlic might help as well.
Also, what about heat generating exercises?
Maybe some yoga or cardio work outs?
but also u need to wear sweats and keep warm so that the contrast of heat and the cold air outside of your skin won't collide because the body is trying to maintain homeostasis and its doubly hard when you are on a fast and trying to equillibriate body temp. good luck. you are doing great!- Re: Day 4 Fasting - Feeling Extremel... tierra
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This is a reply to # 1,397,932kalena,
Garlic doesn't do anything for me. Cayenne and ginger defintely do warm me up a little. Sauna and hot baths are the longest lasting.
-thx, tie
- Re: Day 4 Fasting - Feeling Extremel... tierra
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- Slippery Elm maybe...+ for the adren... unyquity
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This is a reply to # 1,397,760'Gotta love 'dat 'Wings - those were some great truths & tips! :)
The Hot/Cold showers (surprisingly) ...ending on hot, of course - will bring fast relief, because they increase your circulation so quickly and completely.
As I understand it, the reason for the "cold" isn't actually 'detoxing', especially when we're taking the IF#2 to assist in adsorbing the toxins and removing them from your bloodstream. The reason (as you suggested) is your body getting used to a different kind of 'energy source'...and not having to 'digest'.
I've been 'thinking hard' and trying to come up with a 'quick fix'...so I went back through Dr. Christopher's IP and was reminded that he had some drinking/eating slippery elm gruel/porridge along with the juice fasting. Here's the information/instructions if you'd like to have a few cups daily: http://healingtools.tripod.com/slipelm.html
(click the link at the bottom to find the 'recipe'.
But Uny, I don't have any organic slippery elm bark powder...waaaah. ::::grin::: If you didn't mix the two baggies together already (of the slippery elm/white oak bark) that was in your parcel (for other reasons)...you DO have slippery elm bark powder that you can use.
And lo & behold, there's a tiny blurb on that site/link that says slippery elm is good for the adrenals! I don't recall EVER knowing that before (and I thought I knew EVERYTHING about slippery elm). Anyway, I just did a Google search on slipper elm + adrenal...and here's the results:
http://tinyurl.com/cuto5h
WOW.
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If you have a health store/market that stocks Herb Pharm tinctures (many do), you could run out a pick up a bottle of Cayenne Tincture. The tincture never makes it past the upper intestines, and it wouldn't offend your "owie" in the least. It's not AS hot as ours, but it's organic (and if it's local, you could get it asap).
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Hmmm, being a 'bit uncomfortable' is one thing, but being in misery is something else. If you think you can 'eat' without going 'off course', then maybe you should have some steamed veggies or a couple of (room temperature) fruits. Perhaps a couple of bananas in your Superfood smoothie to see if that'd be enough to 'do the trick'? And pile in the Superfood.
I know we ALL want to get 'maximum benefit' out our protocols & effort...maybe Schulze would disagree with me here...but I think that a few wee-tiny breaks in the protocol (especially when we're not "giving in" to emotional food cravings) is acceptable in situations like you're sharing.
Yes indeedy, "hard & fast" will get you there quickest, but sometimes "backing off for a breather" is a good idea.
Listen to your doctor within - she knows BEST :)
Your tenacity is a lighthouse to the weak and under-motivated. APPLAUSE! APPLAUSE!!
Unyquity
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This is a reply to # 1,398,037Hi Uny,
Thx again for the the slippery elm and the white oak bark!
I assume the white oak bark is for EXTERNAL only? It can be used alone or mixed with slippery elm in equal portion? Rocky found the mix more effective than using the white oak bark alone, did he?
>Hmmm, being a 'bit uncomfortable' is one thing, but being in misery is something else. If you think you >can 'eat' without going 'off course', ... be enough to 'do the trick'? And pile in the Superfood.
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I'm actually doing pretty good on Day 5 fasting now! I don't really get hungry that much and when I do (smell other people's food or cooking for my husband) I just take some coconut oil and honey. About 1-3 Tbsp a day. Other than the coldness, I really don't have much complaint. I think the slippery elm porridge might just do the trick. I almost don't feel like I'm fasting at all...with superfood, IF#2 and now the slippery elm porridge. A 'fast' like this, I feel like I can go on forever.
As for the coldness, I found these ThermalCare heatwraps from the drugstore. I wrap them around my wrists and ankles. They do wonders and lasts for hours. I think it's vital to stay warm during healing. When you're freezing like the corpse, everything just slow down to a halt, including the bowel. My bm hasn't been working out very well for the few days despite almost doubling the amount of IF#1. I'm now taking 8 caps of IF#1 and 3-4 tsp of IF#2 a day. I get 2 bms a day. The 2nd bm (and sometimes even the 1st bm) I have to rely on a suppository to get the motion going. I'll try to up IF#2 to 5tsp tomorrow and see what happened. I don't think my stomach can handle more IF#1 at this point. Even with 8 caps, I have to spread it through out the day, two at a time is the limit. And even that dosage, I do still get stomach ache to a point that I double over. It's tolerable at this point but I wouldn't want to push it.
>...of Cayenne Tincture. The tincture never makes it past the upper intestines, and it wouldn't offend your >"owie" in the least.
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I got your Cayenne #1 Tincture. I thought that's the one I OD'ed and thus caused a major "owie" fiasco! I suppose the powder was the culprit, not the tincture. Wait... But, what happens if you mixed the tincture with juice or food, would it still bypass the digestive system?.... And, how about water? OMG! I took a dropperful of the Cayenne Tincture under my tongue and immediately burst into tears and was jumping up and down. That stuff is HOT! I think my tongue was numb for 15mins or so.
I also notice that I get warmer at night. Day night reversal? I suppose my adernal and glands are really out-of-whack. I should probably up the slippery elm to 2 cups a day.
-many thx!
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Wooooo!!!...Re: ThermaCare Heatwraps... healinginHiswings
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This is a reply to # 1,398,757Listen at you, girl!! GO GET 'EM!!! You're figuring it out, listening to your body, hangin' in there, you passed over the "hunger hump" on your juice fast, and you're teaching all of us!
My family's gonna love the heat wraps... they always complain that I keep the house too hot... :p
Yeehaw!!! I'm impressed!
This one's for you:
HUGE hugs and an atta girl~
Wings- Re: More ThermaCare Heatwraps Tips! tierra
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This is a reply to # 1,398,935I wrapped them around my wrist and ankles with velcros (the non-sticky type, don't like the glue type) and staple one end of the velcro to the wrap. You can them take the wrap on/off easily on the fly when needed. You can get these velcros at Walmart too.
-tie
- Re: More ThermaCare Heatwraps Tips! Gm7b5
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This is a reply to # 1,399,149If you have adrenal fatigue, you should not be fasting. Doing so can damage the adrenal glands and render them even less effective.
- Incorrect/Incomplete information abo... unyquity
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This is a reply to # 1,413,823Those that are juice-fasting on the Natural Healing & Herbal Solutions forum (where this thread is cross-posted), are not simply "juice fasting".
Any fasting or detoxification when the adrenals are in distress *may* be "backwards" (as the release of toxins due to the fast, stress the kidneys - hence the adrenals).
But, when doing a FULL BODY HEALING PROTOCOL as well as ingesting Bentonite clay and activated charcoal to adsorb the toxins that may be released when juice fasting, this is NOT a stress on the kidneys or adrenals - it results in an extremely effective healing (much quicker than one can EVER accomplish by focusing solely on one isolated body part).
http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/20067.html
JUICE-FASTING: The powerful healing therapy
The link above will show you why/how juice fasting is such a powerful healing tool.
Sadly (and frustratingly), just as a HIGH percentage of all CZers, your statement indicates you've been "duped" by 'alternative science'...which is almost an exact 'mirror image' of 'allopathic medicine'...and both are TOTALLY different than true natural healing.
I've had EXTREME adrenal stress twice in the last several years (pupils non-reactive, hair falling out in HANDFULLS). Both times it was 80%+ resolved by getting my body back to as close to 'normal' homeostasis as I could, as fast as I could ('took about 3 weeks)...juice fasting, IF#2 (to adsorb toxins and cleanse the bowel), Superfood for mega nutrition, a couple of quality herbal preparations, a kidney cleanse...and LOTS of "stress reduction" protocols and life changes. Yet 95% of 'alternative science' says it can't be done (and that fasting/juice fasting is harmful).
Whatcha don't know CAN hurt you :::wink::: :)
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