A question for Ptree..... 
Terry C.
22 y
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Hi Ptree!
I'd really love your help with my current dilemma! I wrote to you a while back about the bowel cleanse....I have MCS, FM and IBS. To make a long story short, I found that the P&B's were making me too constipated, but I have just found a product that contains psyllium, prune, marshmallow, ginger roots, mallow flowers, konjac roots, apple pectin, bromelain and papain. I've been taking it for about a week, working my doses up slowly, and am having at least one soft bm per day! For me that is a miracle!
However, I still have severely irritated intestines, and I've realized that just having bm's, gas, or simply food passing through them causes severe pain. I have changed my diet to center around soluble fiber foods, and that has helped somewhat. I am also taking bifidus, cal/mag, a liquid multi with iron, and vitamin c.
My dilemma is that I still notice undigested food in my stools, and I cannot handle protein or fats at all- I get severe bloating, gas, nausea, etc. I have tried so many enzyme formulas to no avail. Should I take pancreatic enzymes, as Dr. Jensen recommends? I notice a lot of pain and tenderness in the area just above my bellybutton- is this my pancreas? Does this correspond with hypoglycemia, too?
I will eventually do a parasite cleanse and have to address the chronic candida, but my body can only handle a little at a time! I'm still going for colonics every two or three weeks, and that is helping, too.
Thank you so much for all your wonderful help! I wish you the best of everything for the coming year!
Sincerely, Terry.
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- Re: A question for Ptree..... UserX
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Hi Terry!
Glad to hear you're doing better!
The formula that you have sounds pretty good...you probably won't see any mucoid plaque, but it should help with your bowel functioning and soothe and heal the lining. L-glutamine is an amino acid found in abundance in the GI tract and necessary for healing the gut. A product called IntestiNew by ReNew contains glutamine as well as other nutrients and herbs that help to heal the mucosal lining. Aloe vera juice, slippery elm, cranesbill and DGL (deglycyrrhizinated licorice) are also soothing and healing.
The pain you describe just above your belly button is probably your transverse colon. Your pancreas is more to the left and a little higher up.
Yes, try the pancreatin...it may help. Also, try betaine HCL to see how you tolerate it. Hydrochloric acid is the acid in your stomach and is necessary for digestion...many people have low HCL levels. This acid also triggers the release of your body's own pancreatic enzymes. Some people have excessive stomach acid and using HCL will cause a burning sensation, though...so proceed slowly and pay close attention to how your body responds. There are sophisticated ways to test your stomach acid level, but the simplest is to do a trial of HCL...if no discomfort is experienced than you probably need it. Curiously, some people who have acid reflux, sour stomach, etc. are actually low in HCL, too...so you can't use this a determinant of your stomach acid levels.
Candida and parasites can certainly cause some of the problems you are having, too...so address them as you are able.
Also, you might want to look for a vitamin supplement that does not contain iron. Iron supplements can be very constipating for lots of people.
Liver congestion may also be causing some of your digestive problems...you might try a slow liver cleanse by taking 1-3 tablespoons of olive oil a day and follow this with a glass of water with fresh lemon juice...one half to a whole lemon should do. Or coffee enemas might help.
Just go slow with anything that you do so that you don't overwhelm yourself!
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- Re: A question for Ptree..... Terry C.
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This is a reply to # 120,446Ptree,
I'm so happy you got back to me so fast! I'll go to the health food store tomorrow and look for the Intestinew. Can I find the batain HCL at the drugstore? I think I remember someone else on the board asking about it....
I read somewhere else that l-glutamane is also necessary for detoxification, and therefore good to take for MCS people...so I'll be killing two birds with one stone with that one!
I still can't get over how important the colon is to everything...health, happiness, clarity of mind...it's amazing. I'm learning so much about myself and my body through this whole process- it is what keeps me going through the hard times....
Take care, Terry.- Re: A question for Ptree..... UserX
22 y
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You can get the betaine HCL at the health food store, too...look for it by the digestive enzymes. Some enzyme formulas contain it in the mix.
Yep, a healthy digestive system is essential to good health! What you eat is important, what you absorb is even more important...and what you eliminate...or don't...may be most important of all!- Re: A question for Ptree..... tazviolin
22 y
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This is a reply to # 120,451Hi PTree,
A question for you. You suggeted going on a slow liver cleanse. How long does one keep up the daily olive/lemon?
Thanks,
tazviolin- Re: A question for Ptree..... UserX
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This is a reply to # 120,454You can do it indefinitely if you'd like...or if you get tired of it just use olive oil and lemon on a salad every day.
- Re: A question for Ptree..... tazviolin
22 y
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This is a reply to # 120,455Hi PTree,
Thanks for your quick response!
BTW, another question. When you do your b&p shakes do you get bloated? I'm on the arise and shine program and I seem to be having an awful lot of gas (both ways!). My system should be used to this stuff by now because I've used it for several months, not at one time though.
Thanks again for your great reply!
tazviolin- Re: A question for Ptree..... UserX
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This is a reply to # 120,456Bloating is fairly common...especially in the beginning of the cleanse. All the old gunk starts to hydrate and swell a bit. Also, any pathogenic bacteria or critters residing in the intestines may be dying off and contributing to the gas. You might want to do a parasite cleanse as well. I don't remember what the various herbs are in the Arise and Shine cleanse...they might be contributing to this. As the colon becomes cleaner the bloating should subside. Since digestion also involves the liver it would be a good idea to follow the Colon Cleanse with a series of liver flushes.
- Re: A question for Ptree..... mark007
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Ptree, you mentioned a slow liver cleanse. Is this what you're talking about - //www.curezone.org/gallstones/lemonolive.asp . What's the difference between that and a Dr.Clark flush? If i use this daily cleanse over a long period of time, can it work the same as a flush? Sounds safer, too.- Re: A question for Ptree..... UserX
22 y
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This is a reply to # 120,458Yep...Dr. Clark's slow liver cleanse is just another version. The one I suggested is a little easier...doesn't use the whole lemon and you don't have to mix the oil in with the lemon water. These are different than the liver/gallbladder flush, though...you may get a few stones here and there with the slow method, but nothing like the quantity you will get to a complete flush. There are some circumstances where a full flush is not advisable...if the bowel is quite congested with toxic material or if one's health is rather compromised and their body is already overwhelmed with toxins. In the first case the toxins released from the liver may not fully exit the body and be reabsorbed in the colon causing the liver to have to process them once again. In the second case the toxins dumped from the liver so rapidly may throw a person into a major healing crisis and further debilitate them. The slow method is safer and more comfortable in these cases...a full flush can be done when the colon has been cleansed and improvements have been made in overall health. It is also a good way of maintenance Liver Cleansing after a series of Liver Flushes has been completed.
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- Re: A question for Ptree..... Selini
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This is a reply to # 120,457Hello: I will be starting the Betonite/Psyllium cleanse soon - I noted that you stated to someone that it might be a good idea do also do a " parasite cleanse" - do you suggest doing this simultaneoulsy with the Colon Cleanse (B/P cleanse) or should one wait to finish that before starting the parasite cleanse.
Thanks for your guidance.- Re: A question for Ptree..... UserX
20 y
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Doing a Colon Cleanse and parasite cleanse simultaneously can be really tricky...especially if you are not fasting. The reason for this is because you have to space the p&b shakes and the parasite cleansing herbs and your meals so that they are all effective and don't interfere with each other. The shakes will alter the absorption of nutrients and herbs if taken too closely with food or the parasite cleanse.
I would suggest that you either do the Colon Cleanse first and then do the parasite cleanse...or you can follow a program like the Ultimate Fast. I don't agree with everything in this program...it's not long enough for a thorough colon cleanse...and you don't need to use those specific products. But at least this will give you some idea of how you can effectively do both cleanses at the same time.
Click the link below for info on the Ultimate Fast.- Re: A question for Ptree..... Selini
20 y
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This is a reply to # 120,550Hi: In response to your response re the parasite cleanse I was not thinking of doing both simultaneously. I think it would be too much as you stated. But, I thought I should ask because you are the expert and I am new at doing any colonic cleanse.
I have had numerous colonics in the past but have never done a full cleanse on my own and it sounds like something I should do. I have had way too many health maladies and there comes a point when you just have to cleanse your system of everything.
Also, I am currently dealing with anemia - I have been supplementing with b12 shots, iron shots, homeopathic ferrum metallicum, vitamins, etc.
What I wanted to ask for your verification is "should I wait until I have brought my body back to normal re my hemoglobin and iron before doing this cleanse or is it OK to start while I am dealing with the anemia?".
I think I know the answer but would rather hear what you recommend.
You are a real gift - Blessings of the Universe- Re: A question for Ptree..... UserX
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Hi Selini,
Given all the iron you are taking for anemia...I would hold off on the p&b shakes for the time being and stick with colonics. Iron can be quite constipating for many people...and a lot of people experience constipation with the p&b shakes, too. You run the risk of getting really locked up by combining iron therapy and p&b shakes! Use the colonics to assist with any constipation and as a preliminary cleanse to a more thorough Colon Cleanse once your anemia is addressed.
I would also hold off on the parasite cleanse until the anemia is resolved. Having anemia means that you are in a depleted state which is best dealth with by rebuilding rather than cleansing. Once the anemia is resolved you will have more energy to proceed with additional cleansing.
Several years ago I lost a lot of blood as a result of uterine fibroids, polyps and surgeries to address them. Diet (lots of good-quality beef, spinach and gelatin) and acupuncture and chinese herbs worked wonders for me at getting my blood chem back into balance! You might consider these in addition to the treatments you are already taking.- Re: A question for Ptree..... Selini
20 y
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This is a reply to # 120,552Hi there and thanks again for your quick responses. You are a blessing - just wanted to mention that I am a vegetarian and meat is totally out of the question for me. Was never really a big meat eater to begin with however, I do frequently eat cheese and if I think I can stomach them, I also eat hard boiled eggs or fried eggs from time to time - Also, I am really surprised to hear that the p/b cleanse is constipating to people.
Should it not be the other way around? The psyllium is usually taken for constipation if I am correct, so I cannot understand how it constipates. I bought the two items today at Whole Foods so that I have them when I start my cleanse.
Well thanks again for your advice. Much appreciated
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Although some products containing psyllium will call themselves a laxative (ie. Metamucil)...psyllium is a soluble fiber and absorbs 40X its weight in water! Since many people are chronically dehydrated to begin with...and many who use the P&B cleanse don't drink nearly enough water with the shakes...the result can be constipation. You are essentially making bricks inside your body if you don't add enough water into a fiber mix!!! Not everyone will become constipated...but it happens not too infrequently. Psyllium is a good fiber to use to KEEP you going...provided you drink enough water, but not the best choice to GET you going!- Re: A question for Ptree.....
Your ... vikinglady
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This is a reply to # 120,554Hi Ptree: I love this website and I really appreciate your comments on this subject. However, I have to ask what your qualifications to speak on this subject are. Are you a health professional or a lay person who has experience on the topics that you speak about? I am not trying to be objectionable or sarcastic.
Just want to know the background! I apologize if this has been
discussed before.
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Your ... UserX
20 y
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This is a reply to # 120,555I'm a certified colon hydrotherapist, a licensed clinical psycologist with a specialization in health psychology, and a naturopath candidate. I also have extensive personal experience in natural healing. One of these days...if I ever get a sufficient block of 'free' time...I will post the story of my own healing journey.
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Your ... vikinglady
20 y
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This is a reply to # 120,556Thanks, PTree for the prompt reply.
I'm impressed! Would love to hear your own personal story - it sure helps to know other people have some of the same problems you do. - Re: A question for Ptree.....
Your ... dionna s
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hi ptree, im so glad your here. i have been on the mc for 6 days now and doing good ,my ? is can i just add the p/b shakes to the mc? i am doing this to clean my bowel and lose weight and have a better respect for my digestive system. also does the swf make me retain water i can still see my fingerprints on my skin? thanks for being here. ive reading this forum for days now and your the only one that i will trust. thanx again - Compressed opening of colon after cl... #44666
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This is a reply to # 120,556Hello PTree
Litle story on mo condition.
Had Ankylosing Spondilities(bechterew) for ten years and my doctor and reumatlogist wanted to disable me, i started searcing the net and find the book the starch free diet by carol sinclair. After 4 days my pains and stiffnes of my spine and hips was gone, as long as i followed this i was fine only a vitamin pill whit starch was enough to get the pain back. After finnished my dental operations i am getting much better.
removed nine theet in total rootcanals, Amalgams six cavitations wich one was as big as your fingertip and went underneath the main nerve, and one thoot that was killed by my so called expert dentist in Norway and was very toxix and gave me much pain in nine months before i find one of the best spesialist on cavitation in the world, Dr Munroe Hall in England, http://www.dentalhelp.org (i used one year too search for the best spesialist in Norway!!) There are myabe ten very good specialist on cavitation in the world!
I now follow i diet that suits my metabolism.
Ok my question: i did a coloncleansing program from Hulda Clark e and when massaging the upper rigth corner of the colon i find a hard area that i probably massaged litle too hard..! i exspelled a litle finger sised squareshaped and very hard and dry piece..
After this ten days cleansing i have had constipation and some pain in the upper rigth side when constipaded. I did not take a enema with probiotics after and had a food poisening in Ghana( work on a ship)When i have a bowel movement (Have to use remedies for this) i can see that my stool are pressed flat and so it looks like it is a small passage to come tru, Do have a suggestion to what i should do...!
My plan now is to make another coloncleansing cure. plus colonics. and coffe enema.
Question: can i take vita biosa as an retension enema for using it too soften the plack in my colon, any dangers.. http://www.biosanorge.no/ or do you recomend other remedys, maybea the herb tea i used in the clarke cure..
I will also add retension enema whit probiotic.
And i will add making my own kefir http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html whit Mares milk http://www.hestemelk.no/about.htm
Take 8 prosent H20 Hydrogen peroxid, staggering up to 25 drops 3 times a day.
And Colloidal Silver from meso silver
http://www.purest---colloids.com/mesosilver.htm#dosage
Do you have any recomandation too this aproach.
I have a candida problem after the dead thoot that my dentist killed after replacing a big filling, the thoot was in there nine months before extraxtion and my tongue become all white and i got a completely dry mouth when i sleep.
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This is a reply to # 120,443hi -i'm new to this site and am starting to work my body up for a colon cleanse.
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