On “Protein or "Funny Protein"(NPN)--Killing "US"”

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=909337

Just look at the most recent problems of imported foods from china, which has had "Funny Proteins" added to the foods,

The source of the poison is not “Funny Proteins” as ML so colloquially puts it but melamine, which could not be considered a protein under any circumstances.  This is a maliciously false argument; it is clear from what we’ve learned that this is a case of intentional contamination.  To suggest, that melamine is protein would be like saying cyanide is also protein because it contains Nitrogen.

I have been sharing about the problem of NPN in our food supply !

Well, then you’ve wandered off topic, the case with China is about contamination, not funny proteins.  He is wrongly linking a clear case of food contamination with his ideas about NPN. 

And to provide "Proof" as to this Great problem of Funny Proteins(NPN), which is Free Nitrogen,

NPN is not protein.  NPN is not free nitrogen.  Free Nitrogen is (N2) nitrogen gas.  NPN is a term that encompasses any nitrogenous compound not including proteins – it can include a variety of organic and inorganic compounds.    Certainly the Chinese case cannot be proof for any of his points.

Why do relatively low doses of melamine result in ---"kidney failure"---! Which may happen in anything , which eats NPN, animal or Humans !!

Wrong.  While technically it is true that Melamine would fall under the category of NPN.  Melamine is a poison because it seems to interfere with proper function, not because it is NPN (a wide definition that could be applied to anything.  For example cyanide could also be considered NPN.  Now it cyanide poisonous because it happens to fall into this category?  Naturally not, it is because it inhibits cellular metabolism.

What else can be considered NPN and according to ML should be considered a danger to human?

Chlorophyll.  That is right, due to its nitrogen content Chlorophyll is NPN, and by ML’s logic will cause kidney failure.   This is why such simplistic opinions and over-generalizations should never be taken seriously. 

“The two companies illegally added melamine”

May I highlight that even in China, this is illegal.  This is an issue of QA/QC and the need for government inspections.  But even here our food is not inspected to the level it probably should be, case in point the recent spinach e.coli outbreaks, as well as the carrot juice outbreak, every summer there is problem with ground beef, salads, ect.  

ML is confusing the issues and hoping his readers won’t take notice and placidly nod in absent-minded agreement.   Really who is against greater inspection? 

Either way, this is about illegal actions, profiteering, and intentional food poisoning and not about NPN as ML would have us believe.

Just like taking Elemental Iodine, which is a Drug and may Poison in the Elemental form, when getting too much of it in relationship to the needed Alkaline Minerals !

The people in the Iodine support forum would disagree; everything is a poison if taken in excess.  Even drinking pure water is poisonous if you drink too much of it, the result is a potentially fatal condition called hyponatremia.

And this same problem of too much Nitrogen may come about when Food is picked too green, and the Nitrogen in the plants have "NOT" been able to convert into "True Proteins", yet !

Wrong again.  The problem with food picked to early has nothing to do with NPN, and it is more about taste and the nature of the carbohydrates.  For example in bananas, when eaten green are very starchy, the breakdown of these starches into more digestible carbohydrates is what makes it palatable and easier to digest.  The chemistry of ripening is complex, but it mainly about the carbs, bioactive enzymes, esters and not what ML thinks as protein.  This makes sense when you consider that most fruits and vegetables are mainly water and carbohydrates, with proteins making up a minor portion of their content.   For example in the banana the starch levels of a green fruit will continue to decrease and the sugar levels rise especially fructose and glucose.  Proteins are not being manufactured in this example; all that is happening is that enzymes are breaking down the starches.  Naturally it is more complicated than this, as in some cases esters are synthesized optimally under the vine, so product picked early lack flavour.  

The feed Industry has for years been feeding "Urea" NPN to cattle and calling it High Protein supplement, and they still do this in the USA !!!!!!!!!

It is true that urea is used in cattle feed, but unlike us, ruminants are able to process a relatively high amounts of urea and convert it to protein.  The short version is this: in the stomachs of ruminants the bacteria will break down urea into ammonia and then the bacteria combined it with available carbohydrates to form amino acids and proteins.
http://www.agnet.org/library/pt/2001019/

We should note that urea is a normal part of many plants that these ruminants would normally eat

Funny Protein(NPN) Non-Protein Nitrogen or Free Nitrogen , which is in the food supply may be Causing many of our Health problems today !!

If free nitrogen is a problem then food is the least of our worries, we should be scared every time we inhale as the air we breathe is 78% free nitrogen.  In comparison we take so much more “free nitrogen” from breathing the addition of it from food is insignificant.

This whole NPN is another example of ML taking a little knowledge and turning it into a lot of ignorance.