I lived with 4-5 pain for twenty years...for 6 of those years 8-10... They gave me drugs to numb the pain... & I took them a few times when I thought I could go no further...a day or two a few times in all of those years...when the ringing in my ears from the pain would not go away..but I could not continue on... Mostly, I just threw that junk away...The pain probably put me on edge more often than I would have been... Now....pain free for a few years now(Thanks CureZone) I realize I often acted from a place of pain and could have been more forgiving at times... There is no such thing as tough love... Withholding love from someone who is suffering to teach them that they should change their ways...