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Re: judge NOT........


Scripture must be interpreted with scripture. It is very obvious to me that this is talking of a fallen angel. I do not see where you are going with this.

The greek in the new testament does not have the context of the isaiah passage. I think that is where you are lost on this one. Like you were on the vulgate issue.


There are three places the title morning star are seen in Scripture.

1) Rev. 2:28 “and I will give him the morning star.” In Revelation the Son of God promises to give the MORNING STAR to him that overcometh. . . this has nothing to do with the fallen angels known or Satan. Since one is overcoming the world and its temptations that come from Satan to receive the morning star. Morning star- proinos Aster. this is where going into the Greek will help clarify it.
“Rev 2:28 The morning star ton (NT:3543) astera (NT:785) ton (NT:3543) proonion (NT:4355). “The star the morning one.” In Rev 22:16 Christ is the bright morning star. The victor will have Christ himself” (from Robertson's Word Pictures in the New Testament)

2) Rev 22:16: `Jesus is called THE “bright morning star”: Bright morning star- lampros-1) shining a) brilliant proinos- pertaining to the morning. Gr.aster-a star.

This means we will have Christ Himself [as our reward], like God promised Abraham I am you exceeding great reward. This connects with Rev. 22:16: “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.” Jesus is saying he alone is this, “I am the bright Morning Star.” Only here is the word bright is added to Morning Star, distinguishing Jesus from any angel.

Bright – Gr. lampros-1) shining a) brilliant; figuratively, magnificent or sumptuous (in appearance):

Easton's Bible Dictionary states: a name figuratively given to Christ (Rev. 22:16; comp. 2 Pet. 1:19). When Christ promises that he will give the “morning star” to his faithful ones, he “promises that he will give to them himself, that he will give to them himself, that he will impart to them his own glory and a share in his own royal dominion; for the star is evermore the symbol of royalty (Matt. 2:2), being therefore linked with the sceptre (Num. 24:17). All the glory of the world shall end in being the glory of the Church.” Trench's Comm.

3) 2 Peter 1:19: “And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; (NKJ)
The confusion comes from a mistranslation of 2 Peter 1:19, previously misidentified the Morning Star [Satan] will assume the ascendancy in hearts of believers:

KJV . . . until the day dawns, and the DAY STAR arises in your hearts
NASV . . . until the day dawns and the MORNING STAR arises in your hearts
NIV . . . until the day dawns and the MORNING STAR rises in your hearts.

In 2 Peter 1:19 the word in Greek- phosphoros, literally is, “light-bringer,” from light-bearing, to give light, It is only translated in the KJV this way, This is the only place the name day star is used. It is not the same word used elsewhere.

2 Peter 1:19: “And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts”
This is referring to Scripture as our continual light, a light in darkness that gives us instruction until the real light comes, which is Jesus. This later portion could be describing the transformation of believers to immortality. As A.T. Robertson points out “usual construction for future time. A late compound verb diaugazoo (NT:1293) (Polybius, Plutarch, papyri) from dia (NT:1211) and augee (NT:820), to shine through, here only in the New Testament.

The morning star is a far more accurate translation than day star. What distinguishes Jesus from the morning star is the definite article “ha”, THE. In the same way an angel of the Lord and THE Angel of the Lord distinguishes the special messenger from an ordinary angel as the pre-incarnate Christ.

Malachi 4:2: “But to you who fear My name The Sun of Righteousness shall arise” This concept of "dawn" is applied to the Messiah.

'Shachar' = 'dawn' as in coming out of the dark (God separates light from dark in creation in Genesis and in new creation in John); Shachar Ha Ira chasecha l'shir' - “morning by morning new mercies I see'.

The syntax is a distinguishing feature. When it is Christ it always a reference to Him by title; when a reference to another the term is used in substitution of a personal name.

son of the morning- head of the angels, associated with Day star before he fell.
THE morning star- Jesus (singular)
THE Bright morning star

Son of the morning (is exclusively the devils title before he fell) is not the same as the bright morning star (used only for Jesus), which makes the titles difference between Jesus and Satan.

As for your neanderthal stuff

Science has been proven wrong many times. I take the book over Science when the 2 are in question. Neandertals were just another animal. And while it is theorised that there was cross breeding. It is already being called into doubt

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/feb/04/neanderthals-modern-humans-research

As far as genome and dna mapping we share 50 percent of our dna with bananas. I am sure we are not related

But you will believe what you want. regardless of what the book says. I will try to respond when time allows
 

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