Re: Is this guy Born Again?

Would you be so presumptuous to think that I do not get or have not gotten on my face before God?

God never says in his word to the church you are to get on your face and beg God to reveal truth.

Again you fail.

The writings of Paul are not man made doctrines or theological pontifications.  If you would label God's word as such then so be it.

You are to hear the word
 Ro 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? What are they to hear why the Word of God, the Holy Bible.

 Ga 4:21 ¶ Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? even israel was told to hear the Law the word of God for them.

 1Ti 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. What was it they were hearing from Timothy?  what are those doctrines?  Why the word of God the Holy Bible.

 2Ti 4:17 Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and [that] all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion. It was a man preacing the word of God, and Gentiles (that is you Ed) that were hearing. hearing what?  Why the word of God the Holy Bible.

we are to acknowledge the word of God the Holy Bible 

1Co 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.  what was the spiritualo person to acknowledge?  why teh written word of God, the Holy Bible.

 2Co 1:13 For we write none other things unto you, than what ye read or acknowledge; and I trust ye shall acknowledge even to the end; What is it that was written?  What is it we are to read?  what is it we are to acknowledge? Why the word of God the Holy Bible.

we are to be taught the word by the Holy Ghost, he does it through the word of God.  The word of God the Holy Bible is spiritual is it not?  The word of God is compared by the Holy Ghost to us via our reading and study, comparing spritual things (the word of God) with the spiritual (the word of God, experiences and feelings).   1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  what is it the Holy Ghost teacheth?  the Words of God, and by comparing them. 

 Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.  what is it that the Holy Ghost shall teach?  the words spoken of by Christ and those would include those inspired by God and given to Paul in the writtings to the church, the Body of Christ, which are the words of God the Holy Bible.

we are to study the word of God (which for some reason you do not) 2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

So we are to hear the word of god the Holy Bible, we are to read the word of God the Holy Bible, and we are to Study the word of God the Holy Bible and and through this the Holy Ghost will teach us the truth.

Nothing not one thing shared above is a doctrineof men it is purely and simply the word of God the Holy Bible that the Holy Ghost teaches to those that have the Holy Ghost.

To teach that one must only "getting on your face for hours and begging the Living God in travail for the truth" is to teach somehting that the Holy Bible through the inspired words to the churches of God, the Body of Christ never received through Paul.  In this case we urge those who come upon this teaaching of Ed, MTS will hear this word of God 2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.  Anytime someone teaches anything that is not supported by Scripture, or confuses scriptures by not studying to rightly divide the word of truth, and to compare what they expereinced to the word of God.  They are in disobedience to the word while blaming their disobedience on the Holy Spirit there fore we must try and correct them Tit 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;  11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself. We do so by using the word of God for it alone is 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:  17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

This is not a debate this is the clear and simple teaching of the word of God, for the people of God who hear, read and study the word of God.

 Ps 119:130 ¶ The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.  Let him who has ears hear what the Holy Ghost says unto the churches of God the Body of Christ through his word.

Having done all that I can to correct Ed and warn those who follow his words and not the word of God, I now shake the dust from my feet.