Re: ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

you are caught in the hysteria, too, I see. Just commenting because it is so destructive. The neurotic, absurd worry about "malnutrition" by compulsive overeaters in a society of abundance is purely a mask for food addiction, and an enormous obstacle to fasting, which some tragically never overcome. THIS is the REAL danger -- not learning fasting when fasting is urgently needed.

Haha, this is a great example of a strawman argument. You have completely misjudged chris and what he believes, inferring much and attacking a position he does not hold.  Chris would agree that a compulsive overeater would do well to eat less and he is a great proponent of fasting with an amazing fasting testimony of his own.  Chris is not concerned that fasting will bring malnutrition... the concern is not against actual fasting, but against false fasting.  By tricking ones body into believing it is still eating, it is hindered from making all of the appropriate and beneficial transitions into fasting mode because it believes it is still receiving its nutrition externally.

As chris mentioned, (maybe you will receive it this time) it has been well documented that nutritional deficiencies arise faster in an extreme diet (tiny amounts of food) than in fasting (no food at all) because the fasting body knows it is fasting, makes the appropriate transitions and conserves nutrients maximally.  Scurvy, rickets and pellagra provide 3 such examples, deficiency diseases, none of which ever arise in a pure fast.  How can this in any way imaginable be construed as hysteria against fasting?

By the way and for what it's worth, chris actually reassured azcountrygirl that she was not starving yet, just that her nutritional reserves would be utilized more quickly where outside stimulation confused the fasting body into thinking it was not fasting. 

Truthful and essential information is welcomed by many people, even when it comes in the form of a friendly warning and this is actually a central component in what a support forum is all about.   Cheerleading someone to their death is not the idea here... or is this your idea of support?   People want accurate information even if it doesn't tickle their ears. 

Azcountrygirl has a great appreciation for chris' advice and had this to say about him in another thread: "... I've read this board quite a bit and for quite a while... Maybe a year... So I DO know when "chrisb1"speaks, you better listen. Your knowledge is powerful here and thanks so much for letting me know."  When i first read her words it was so perfect in its truthfulness that it made me chuckle.