As I mentioned it was at the beginning and was reading The Cure For All Diseases from HC AND learning english at the same time. I rapidly switched to F-165 as soon as I joined this forum that was july 2009, by november added scalar device and pretty much saved my life a couple times with NP's help of course otherwise impossible to make it through ! Herbs along with zapper ? the ones I was reading from HC's book as quick as I could learn.