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I guess you must have missed this one:

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00554268?order=107

ROTFLMAO!!!!  First of all you must have missed the big bold colored lettering that CLEARLY STATES "This study is currently recruiting participants."

I guess I have to explain to you what this SIMPLE concept means.  It means that they are looking for guinea pigs, the study is not currently being conducted!!!  They have been trying to recruit guinea pigs since November 2007 and they have not been able to recruit the minimum 20 people needed for safety studies.  Gee, I wonder why nobody would want to volunteer for an unproven drug made from such as deadly plant?  Could it be because there is NO real evidence available proving it even works in the first place?

Secondly, this is only for phase 1 trials, which has nothing to do with whether a drug works or not.  It is about safety and tolerance.  Effectiveness is determined in phase 2 trials.

And you were going to teach me how to do research?

Yes, apparently you need me to teach you how to do proper research based on the facts I presented above!!!!

Fess up, H - the only problem you have with oleander is  your petty vendictiveness against me for daring to disagree with your minority opinion that viruses cause most cancer or that cancer is contagious.

LOL!!!  You wish!!!

Besides your views on cancer, you virorously defend soy,

And you have bashed it with false claims.  Being that you have so frequently accuse others of doing things you do yourself we can apply the same here to your above claim.  So on this basis we can conclude that it is because I have proven you wrong so many times on various topics, including proving your anti-soy bashing wrong, that you have applied so much of your energy in to your petty vindictiveness against me since you feel I have embarrassed you so often by counting your assumptions with real facts.

put down liver flushes,

Some people, such as myself, rely on facts instead of hype.

put down alkalizing, 

See my last statement.  It is such as shame that some people are so gullible that they will believe anything such as the liver flushing, alkalinizing and the false soy hype.  But hey, if everyone only accepted real facts then life would be pretty boring.

demand scientific proof

You have done the same of me.  The difference is that make an effort to provide the scientific proof.  You ignore the requests when you are asked to do the same.  So it is clear you are simply playing games and refuse to make any effort to provide such proof since you know as well as I do that no proof of your claims exists.

and disregard actual real life observation that lies at the heart of natural healing and has for thousands of years. 

Another false claim by DQ (Tony).  If you have read my posts on the subject I NEVER disregarded real life observation.  I simply said it needs to still be verified by some other research.  Most research starts with observation to determine what may or may not work.  Then the research itself also involves observation.  So making up lies about me is not helping your case at all Tony.

In addition you have attacked and denigrated some of the most respected and long time members of this site - mostly for daring disagree with you as I have.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!  Once again Tony  I NEVER attack anyone without being attacked first.  This includes defending myself against not only your personal attacks but also against those you private messaged to encourage them to join in on attacking me to make yourself look better in the limelight.  But it backfired since all you did was to show how far a low life like you will go to get your way!!!!!  Again, you should have been banned permanently for such an egregious violation of TOS.

And you put down my website as a sales site while you have a private forum here that you sell from?

First of all I did not know it was your website.  So it was not personal.  Secondly I did not put down the website.  You were asked for evidence of effectiveness in the human body.  You presented a website as evidence that had a few abstracts that showed oleander worked against SOME cancer cell lines IN PETRI DISHES, which DOES NOT correlate to inside the body. So I addressed the faulty evidence presented, not the website.  So why is it that you feel such urges to keep lying about the facts and about me?  Or is it simply your petty vindictiveness that drives you to play such games?

You complain bitterly about being the poor victim and how forums are moderated - or for that matter  how the site itself is operated - conveniently forgetting who it was that gave you the R recommendations of who has complimented you on your information and recommended your for your knowledge about ozone. 

LOL!!!!  Yep, games you play.  You are like a domestic violence abuser who beats their spouse senseless then claims they are sorry and does something nice for them to make up for it, just to turn around and beat them senseless again.  If you think being nice to me occasionally while spending 95% of your time lying about me and bashing me makes you a "good" person you are seriously wrong AGAIN!!!  All this really does is show how deceptive you really are and how far you will go in playing your games.

One might wonder just why you are here to begin with, other than having worn out your welcome eslewhere that is (such as indiadevine.org for example).

Thanks again for proving my point about you.  You just showed everyone how far you were willing to dig to find dirt on me to post even though you have no idea of what the real facts were.

But since you chose to bring this up AGAIN let me go over the real facts with you.  The board I was posting on was hosted by a doctor.  On his forum information page it clearly stated that he welcomes debate.  So I posted evidence from some medical journals that he was wrong on a claim.  So he banned me from his board, and posted on the board that I was a quack in violation of his own TOS, while telling people not to have any contact with me since he said I was a quack.  Well a few of the people decided to ignore his statement and wrote e-mails to me.  So I responded to these e-mails with what really happened.  These people turned around and claimed I contacted them with unsolicited e-mails.  Problem is that unless you are on the board you have no access to anyones e-mail.  So how could I have contacted anyone on those boards if I did not have access to their e-mails Tony?  The answer is simple, they contacted me first!!!  And if I was out to contact his members why would I only e-mail two members instead of all of them even if I did have access to their e-mails.  So again you need to get your facts straight Tony before posting, and stop trying to dig up whatever dirt you can find on me just to continue attacking me because of your petty vindictiveness.   All you are doing with this and your PMs to people to recruit them to attack me is showing more an more what a low down slime-ball you really are!!!

Of course you proved this to everyone with your bashing of Spud for the disease she has.  That was so low I am surprised you even had the nerve to show your face again!!!

 

 
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