Indeed, a bitter companion I say. Provide facts, and let the masses decide. You are playing games, and wasting allot of folks time. I don't think Hveragerthi is discrediting alternative protocols as you suggest, but merely pointing out the facts. Allot of so called alternative practioners are misleading people, and I was one that was caught in the web of false hopes. If you firmly stand by your convictions then bring on the facts, and why can't alternative be backed up by science? There should be studies conducted to see the effectiveness of herbs/protocols and so forth. It's absolutely nonsense to suggest that what worked for you will work for everyone. I don't believe in the "One Cure For All" theory. Also, I see you frequently post on the "Moreless" forum, are you reommending that what "Moreless" advocates is Science based? Surely you jest???